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Uhhh

Despite his statistics dropping off slightly in the latter part of the season, Manning helped his team to secure the NFC Eastern Division Title. In the regular season finale, he threw a 78 yard laser to Burress helping his team to a big lead.The Giants held on to defeat the Raiders and former Giants quarterback Kerry Collins 30-21 to claim the title. While the Giants were quickly eliminated in a brutal performance against the Carolina Panthers the following week 23-0, Eli's first full season was seen as a success. He threw for nearly 3,800 yards, tossed 24 touchdowns to only 17 interceptions, and rallied his team to several exciting fourth quarter comebacks. Eli completed only 52.8% of his passes, relatively low for an NFL quarterback. His 24 TD passes were the most by a Giants Quarterback since 1967. He finished his first full season in the NFL ranked in the top 5 in both Touchdown Passes and Passing Yards, one of only 3 (out of a max possible 5) signal callers in football who could make that claim during the 2005 season.(Tom Brady, Carson Palmer)

Am I the only one unfamiliar with such a term >_>?--72.226.224.251 02:17, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Eli is a great qb and deserves a better contract. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.139.219.1 (talk) 21:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

considering elis statistically one of the best play action passers in the league, and the giants have a talented group of young running backs and o-lineman, i'd imagine the future looks pretty bright for manning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.15.153.255 (talk) 22:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.231.148 (talk) 16:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Recent edits by 68.76.7.4

I don't know anything about Eli Manning, but these latest changes don't seem to be of encyclopedia quality. Would someone who is knowledgeable about this article take a look, and see if they need to be reverted? Thanks! -- Cat Whisperer 01:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Giants fans. we have to start chanting ELI'S BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12orla01 (talkcontribs) 00:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Why?

Does anybody know why Eli requested the trade? The media, possibly having bias, seems not to want to pose that question to Eli. Gosh, the media is so dysfunctional. It keeps repeating the question to W about why the U.S. went into Iraq when it had the opportunity to ask that question in the very beginning. ARRGGHH! -Amit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.22.216.150 (talkcontribs) 06:45, 27 September 2006

He didn't request a trade. He simply refused to play for San Diego. I don't think he ever gave any reason why. He basically told the city they are not worthy of him or his egotistical family. Oh well, we got an outstanding QB, great kicker and the best DE in the league out of the deal. 208.187.181.196 05:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Um, the Chargers did not receive a DE in the trade. You are refering to Shawne Merriman who plays LB. Gotta love those knowledgable fair-weather fans in San Diego. --EndlessDan 03:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

lol 3-4 linebacker and 4-3 defensive end are almost identical positions. in a 4-3 defense shawne merriman would probably play defensive end —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.15.153.255 (talk) 22:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I love Eli and have the highest respect for the entire Manning family (I almost went across the country to Ole Miss solely for Eli Manning) but I always thought he wouldn't play for SD because was not going to be a winning franchise for sometime. Archie didn't want his son to be sent off to try to "rebuild" a faltering franchise with no guarantees, no assurances that the management would pledge resources to help Eli. Archie was stuck with a losing franchise when he played, he didn't want the same for Eli. I have no problem with the Mannings saying upfront to SD: Hey, don't pick us we don't want you. It let SD know to have other plans. Kinda telling a guy you know is interested that you aren't--let him go find his soul mate and stop wasting his time on you. It may seem mean, but best for all parties in the end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.39.183 (talk) 01:28, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Someone said that someone edited this page so it would say that Riley Crockett played with Eli Manning. Is this true?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Duelix (talkcontribs) 19:42, 1 June 2008

Readding College career

I'm restoring his college career to the page; I don't know why it went away. fethers 18:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 01:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I got rid of this pic and added a fair-use government owned photo. --EndlessDan 03:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

awards

it says he was a davey o'brien finalist in 01, and it says that the award is for "top senior quarterback" but that wasnt his senior year, and top senior quarterback is the jonny unitas golden arm award. --Pollard666 00:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

WHAT HAPPENED???

What happened is the star Quarterback Payton Manning is thriving in fame but leaving Eli in the dust. Payton is multitalented and shines brighter then the stars. Eli however has just as much talent but what really goes wrong is that he is younger and unexperienced. ELi never gets the spotlight. Eli is just as good as his older brother but gets half the credit. When will he ever get the fame and respect he deserves? The world may never know and he will allways suffer in his older brother's shadow. GIVE ELI A CHANCE!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.75.192 (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Warm Weather QB

Please include the comment by Giants ownership that Eli Manning is viewed as a warm weather quarterback in the likes of Dan Marino. This is a very telling comparison comparing his record the last few years.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.241.122.68 (talkcontribs) 19:47, 16 December 2007

He's had to play at meadowlands and england this season, i think he's passed the cold weather test :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.15.153.255 (talk) 10:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

sigma nu

Sigma Nu does not recognize him as "athlete of the year." This needs to be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.231.86 (talk) 06:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Full Name

According to [1], his full name is Elisha Nelson Manning, not Elijah. κaτaʟavenoTC 03:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Super Bowl content/weight

We sure miss Eli at Ole Miss. Needless to say, we here in Mississippi were all Giants last night. Man, what a game. I know most of the stats will be on the Super Bowl XLII article but the section here definitely needs expanding. Going from wanting to be run out of town, to a hero all in a span of 5 weeks, deserves more than a couple of sentences. - ALLSTAR echo 13:00, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

:This is an discussion for the article... not a place to sit and talk about how much Eli rocks (which he does). Boydannie (talk) 17:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I totally need to not jump to conclusions... my bad. I apologize. Boydannie (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

"brother records" for eli and peyton

Are they the first 2 brothers to ever appear in the super bowl? Are they the first borthers to appear in the super bowl as QBs? Are they the first brothers to both win a super bowl? These are records all in themselves before we get into something as specific as "first QB brothers to get into, win, and be nominated mvp of the super bowl", and each should merit mentions if they are in fact records. I have no idea the answers of any of the questions I wrote, otherwise i would have just directly edited it. 66.190.29.150 (talk) 19:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Answers to your questions: 1)No, 2)Not sure but I believe so 3)No - ALLSTAR echo 23:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

link to patriots

wouldn't you wants link it to the 2007 patriots season not the patriots? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.154.8 (talkcontribs) 13:43, 4 February 2008

archive of Manning TV Commercials

this should be linked in his Popular Culture section. http://www.manningcommercials.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.212.220 (talk) 15:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Madden Cover?

I have seen some rumors.... [2] Should I have put this info on his page?

D1291 (talk) 02:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

No. Per WP:CRYSTAL. --Endless Dan 13:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

2007 preseason

Plax and Shockey DID NOT practice at the minicamps in the preseason. The Entry said that it was the first time that they did. It even refers to an article with the headline "Plax and Shockey noshows again" This needs to be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.253.71.209 (talk) 17:52, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. The link in question talks about Shockey and Plax not showing up in previous years. This is noted in the paragraph. --Endless Dan 21:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Opening Sentence

The opening sentence currently reads, "Elisha Nelson "Eli" Manning (born January 3, 1981 in New Orleans, Louisiana) is an American football quarterback for the 2007 world champion New York Giants of the National Football League." I'm removing 2007 world champion from the article. Yes it is accurate, but that is covered in depth later. The article for his brother doesn't state 2006 world champion in the opening sentence, nor does the articles for other Super Bowl winners. The season and the Super Bowl certainly warrant great discussion in the article, but it doesn't belong in the opening sentence. Failureofafriend (talk) 05:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. Per WP:LEAD:
The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should establish context, summarize the most important points, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and briefly describe its notable controversies, if there are any.
Eli winning the Super Bowl would is very important part of Eli's career and biography. While I agree many former Super Bowl champions do not state this fact in there opening sentence, it is mentioned in most opening paragraphs based on my first three queries.--Endless Dan 14:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the current edit. It didn't belong in the opening sentence, as I stated before. It does, however, belong in the paragraph. Failureofafriend (talk) 04:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Status

Would it be a good idea to add a category to the sidebar labelled "Status", then put married. Just wondering. That seems to be significant information.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.236.105.195 (talkcontribs) 21:46, 28 April 2008

No. It's noted in the article. --Endless Dan 22:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

  • "dolphins07" :
    • After losing to their division rivals the [[Dallas Cowboys]] in week 9,<ref name="cowboys07-2">{{cite web|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2007/11/11/2007-11-11_cowboys_hogtie_giants_in_battle_for_nfc_.html|title=Cowboys Hogtie Giants in Battle For NFC|author=|publisher=New York Daily News|accessdate=2007-11-20|date=2007-11-11}}
    • {{cite web|url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21516596/|title=Giants outlast Dolphins in London fog, mud|author=AP|publisher=Associated Press|accessdate=2008-01-22|date=2007-10-28}}
  • "collegestats" :
    • {{cite web|url=http://peytonmanning18.com/elicollegestats.html|title=Eli Manning's College Statistics & Records|author=David Collins|publisher=University of Mississippi|accessdate=2007-01-21|date=}}
    • In 2008, he was inducted into the Sigma Nu Hall of Fame. *Manning, along with his brother Peyton, volunteered their assistance in the wake of [[Hurricane Katrina]]. Among the tasks performed, the Mannings' assisted in the delivery of 30,000 pounds of water, Gatorade, baby formula, diapers, and pillows to the people of New Orleans.<ref name="volunteer">{{cite web|url=http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/04/mannings.relief/index.html|title=Manning brothers team up for Katrina relief|author=Marsha Walton|publisher=CNN|accessdate=2008-01-22|date=2005-09-05}}
    • * 2001 Honorable Mention All-America - ''The Football News''<ref name="aaaf"/> * 2002 Second Team All-America - ''[[The Associated Press]]''<ref name="2002staa">{{cite web|url=http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=list&p_topdoc=11|title=NFL DRAFT 2004: First-Round Draft Thumbnails|author=Mike Fitzpatrick|publisher=Associated Press|accessdate=2008-03-05|date=2004-04-24}}
  • "packers07" :
    • {{cite web|url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=270916019|title=Favre now winningest QB in NFL history after Packers' win|author=ESPN|publisher=ESPN.com|accessdate=2008-01-22|date=2007-09-16}}
    • In week 3 Manning got a come-from-behind victory as the Giants defense improved, pitching a shutout in the second half and stopping the [[Washington Redskins]] on a fourth and goal situation, winning the game 24-17.<ref name="redskins07">{{cite web|url=http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20070923_NYG@WAS|title=Giants stun Redskins with late rally, goal-line stand|author=CBS Sports|publisher=Associated Press|accessdate=2008-01-22|date=2007-09-23}}

DumZiBoT (talk) 14:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Eli Manning/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I'll start things off with a reference check. The following links need fixing, upon completion of this I'll proceed further:

  • Ref #1 (nflplayers.com) is dead.
  • Ref #30 (manning's shoulder) is dead.
  • Ref #39 (giants dominate niners) is dead.
  • Ref #61 (grounded eli) is dead.
  • Ref #80 (Reebok) is dead.
  • Ref #93 (cricket tournament) is dead.
  • Ref #64 (AP 9/14) needs to be fixed.
  • The following refs changed urls, update them to avoid future redlinks: 32 (giants stun redskins), 34 (umenyiora), 36 (giants rally), 41 (giants outlast dolphins), 57 (can't miss play), and 87 (president bush).
  • The following refs are not properly formatted on-wiki or are missing information: 84 (NFL draft), 85 (national award), 92 (andrew mcgrew)

I'll give you a week on this stuff. Upon completion I'll review the article in full. Hopefully this is the bulk of the problems. Wizardman 00:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Here's more I found:

  • There's not much personal life wise. Being a Manning, it should be easy to find early life info and the like.
  • Nothing in college is cited until the Senior Bowl note.
  • 2004 NFL Draft is uncited.
  • Personal life section should be prosified or meshed in with the article.
  • 2008 playoffs are uncited.
  • The 2007 season is formatted a lot differently than the other ones, and kinda throws me off.
  • His playing in the 2004 season isn't discussed at all.

This is all fixable, yet upon conclusion of doing so, I think it would need to go through another GA nomination to find things I likely missed. As a result, I'm going to fail this. It's a nice article, but doesn't meet the criteria yet. Wizardman 17:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Highest Paid?

ESPN SportsCenter reported that he will be the thrid highest paid behing Julius Peppers at number one and at number two Carson Palmer, which would make E.Manning the second highest paid quarterback and third highest paid player in the NFL. This would be on a yearly not an aggregate total basis.98.240.44.215 (talk) 23:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Stats are WAY wrong

His TD-INT, yards, and passer rating are way off. The correct numbers are 125-88 TD-INT, 18644 yards, 79.2 rating. Not sure why they're so far off, especially when the correct stats appear in the link right below them. I'd fix it, but the page is locked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.194.172.247 (talkcontribs) 00:33, 29 January 2010

Passing Stats

Are completely wrong, I would correct this but the page is protected. Eli has thrown for fewer yards and touch downs as well as more interceptions. His passer rating is also way above where it should be. I'm not sure if this is someone screwing around or an honest mistake, but the correct information can be found at: http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=MAN473170.

Actual stats are:

125-88 18,644 79.2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.86.234 (talk) 20:44, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Is he the IV?

His father Archie is Elisha Manning III so should he be Elisha Manning IV? 184.96.219.82 (talk) 23:36, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

The Giants rock

you passed for 290 yards on sunday you are my hero winning superbowl 42 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.247.168.27 (talk) 01:32, 9 November 2010 (UTC) ==How about a picture of him in action?

Edit request on 12 December 2011

The Best QB ever

68.195.247.18 (talk) 14:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

 Not done, needs a source--Jac16888 Talk 14:09, 12 December 2011 (UTC)