Talk:Transitional Government of Tigray

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A transitional government without any member[edit]

So far no name of a minister or any office holder in this "Government" is known. Than why does it doeserve a page? Just because it is somebody's wishful thinking?

The rest of this page would fit in a page called War between the Federal Government of Ethiopia and the Regional Government of Tigray", after proper editing and removing POV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnyssen (talk • contribs) 20:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mulu Nega is named in the media. Please remember to use ~~~~ to sign your comments. Boud (talk) 23:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mekelle as headquarters is dubious[edit]

There's a war going on; without sources, the claim that the transitional government is headquartered in Mekelle is not credible. I've tagged this info in the infobox as {{citation needed}}. Boud (talk) 23:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This might well change in the next days/weeks: Mekelle offensive (2020). Boud (talk) 23:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Background section should be compressed[edit]

TODO: The background section could be drastically reduced; notable material absent from Tigray conflict could be restored there. This article is about the (so far rather hypothetical) transitional government. Boud (talk) 23:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. This is the main edit to search for material that may be worth recovering, e.g. the paragraph on a person who resigned from a television service. Boud (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mulu resignation offer[edit]

For the moment this is just a copy/paste from the edit summary by Yitbe here: "The <ref name="EEPA_No66_25Jan2021"> referenced unreliable sources, and also it's so vague, for it written as "Social media also report that the Interim President of the Tigray region, Mula Nega, handed in a resignation letter, with as reason "the plight of the people of Tigray who are starving to death and sexually harassed by foreign forces" and that the the administration..." Boud (talk) 14:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also: This similar edit by Yitbe: "It's just a fake news or something else, for non of the national government owned or private media assured it yet. It needs a citation from a reliable sources. The given source, www.eepa.be, is referenced nothing, just says "social media" reported this and that." Boud (talk) 15:59, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rastakwere and Yitbe: The claim made by EEPA is not vague, it's quite specific. That doesn't mean it's true, but it's not a vague claim. Vague claims are hard to disprove; detailed claims are easier to disprove.

Do we really expect Ethiopian government or private media to publish a resignation offer by Mulu Nega? It's indisputable that the media in Ethiopia were generally opened up when Abiy took power in mid 2018. But there is an ongoing war, there are telecommunication blocks in the Tigray Region and there have been arrests of journalists outside of Tigray Region. Both self-censorship and the lack of communication could reasonably prevent the non-Tigrayan Ethiopian media from publishing the resignation offer. Mainstream media in "free" countries very rarely criticise their government's actions during a war against "bad" countries (e.g. I would be suprised if BBC News ever referred to Tony Blair as a war criminal during the invasion of Iraq.) Publishing Mulu's resignation offer would effectively acknowledge the situation in Tigray and upset the federal government.

As for credibility: in democracies, it's a quite normal reaction of a politician who is unable to carry out his or her responsibilities to resign. The difference between "offering to resign" versus "resigning" probably means that someone may offer to resign, be refused, and then continue after having bargained for more power or funds. Boud (talk) 15:59, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In December 2020, the federal Ethiopian authorities issued arrest warrants against Awol Allo and seven other Ethiopian activists, writers and academics, for using "using a variety of media outlets to destroy the country." Editors-in-chief may not be willing to risk arrest for reporting news that is interpreted as "destroying the country". Boud (talk) 16:27, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Either there was no resignation offer, or there was an offer and there was a refusal by Abiy, or there was an offer and a negotiation and then acceptance to continue under the new conditions. In any case, this is now only in the body, not the lead. Boud (talk) 20:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham Belay - MSc 2007 partly plagiarised from Ohm 2000[edit]

Looking at Abraham Belay's MSc thesis in electrical engineering in 2007 (Archived 2021-05-12 at the Wayback Machine), there's quite a bit that is copied and pasted word-for-word from Dal Y. Ohm's 2000 text IM98VC1.pdf (Archived 2019-10-16 at the Wayback Machine). Dupdet gives "Total match candidates found: 16441 (before eliminating redundant matches)" (after uploading these two pdfs converted to plain text). For example, look at the first paragraph of the Introduction of Ohm 2000 "The induction motor, which is ... analogous to a DC motor" and compare it with the second paragraph of 2.2, numbered page 12, pdf page 17, of Belay 2007. This is outright plagiarism. (Reference number 9 on page numbered 56 is Ohm, wrongly given the date 2004 instead of 2000; the date stamp of Ohm's pdf is CreationDate (D:20000321011401), consistent with the 03-20-00 - March 20, 2000 - date stamp in the text. But listing a reference doesn't mean that you can copy/paste a paragraph and other pieces of text without quotation marks or very obvious alerts to the reader that you're quoting.)

Do we have any sources stating that Abraham Belay plagiarised at least part of his MSc thesis? This would be useful for his article once someone starts that. As the new head of the Transitional Government and former federal minister, he's certainly notable. Boud (talk) 00:14, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If there is plagiarism from one source, there will be from more sources. Could be checked using Turnitin or similar software. Rastakwere (talk) 05:55, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This paper by the same author appears to be largely plagiarised also: [1] - just seen on Twitter: [2]

Rastakwere (talk) 06:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]