Talk:Technoblade/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022

In the death section, put the date where he announced the cancer and what is the cancer type. Nuxzor (talk) 11:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:39, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The date is mentioned. Can you provide a source for the cancer type? VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 12:03, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (2)

Removed the image of a male person stretching his anus using both hands SirHaxe (talk) 12:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Already done Vandalism reverted, enhanced protection requested. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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a few things are wrong in the article like the death confirmation date and more Eylon707 (talk) 13:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 13:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (4)

I want to keep Techno's memory alive. We should be grateful that he was here by leaving one sentence here: 'Technoblade never dies, because legends never do.' 91.127.44.128 (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:58, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

We are not a memorial site. WP:NOTMEMORIAL A diehard editor Editing Wikipedia too much rn, talk to me here and see what I'm editing here, bruh. 15:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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60.225.17.134 (talk) 13:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
DISABELD PITURES PELASE PEOPLE ARE PUTING DISTURBING PICS

 Done: User blocked and page locked by Widr. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 13:55, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (5)

PLEASE FIX THE IMAGES I SWEAR THIS IS SO DISRESPECTFUL YOU GUYS ARE DISGUSTING FOR ACCEPTING THIS EDIT 178.213.160.24 (talk) 13:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Nobody accepts or approves the edits, man. They just happen, get undone and it starts a loop. The people doing it will likely get a ban, but you don't need approval to make edits POTH94 (talk) 13:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

So there's no way to disable edits for this specific page? 131.150.208.144 (talk) 13:55, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

There is, see the Wikipedia:Protection policy. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 14:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh, okay, I see. Thanks. 131.150.208.144 (talk) 14:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done: User blocked by Widr. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 13:55, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (5)

Remove the penis picture at the top of the pag 194.110.148.83 (talk) 13:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done: User blocked by Widr. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 13:55, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (6)

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Technoblade has officially died on 30th of june 2022. please add the date.

 Not done. Please provide a credible, reliable source for this. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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PUT ALL IN WASS 87.183.164.150 (talk) 13:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. Not helpful. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:00, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022

remove the penis image that loads on duckduckgo search results Mamaleche (talk) 14:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: We cannot control when search engines update their images. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 15:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (2)

change 11 million subscribers to over 11 million subscribers Thexcuber12 (talk) 15:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done Changed to 11.3 million. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 15:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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add a picture of him Thexcuber12 (talk) 15:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload. Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 15:17, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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The Hypixel server article is linked to twice. Unspectrogram (talk) 15:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thank you. Sparkl^talk 15:37, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (5)

change technoblade's death date to (currently) June 2022 to June 30th 2022 210.1.104.135 (talk) 17:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. Please provide a credible, reliable source for this. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Malcolmxl5: That would appear to be Kotaku (explicitly; WP:VGRS RS source) and NBC New York (ambiguously; WP:RSP source). TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (6)

Change the name "Alexander" to "Alex" as there has never been any confirmation that his name is Alexander. The announcement of his name came as Alex in his final video "so long nerds" 75.174.90.51 (talk) 18:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

His website states his name is Alexander. Link20XX (talk) 18:15, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (7)

Change death date to June 30th, 2022 2600:1000:B168:25AE:B807:5C94:56D2:6D83 (talk) 18:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done See the "Kotaku death date" section above. Link20XX (talk) 19:20, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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MHassanAsif (talk) 18:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Please I want to edit this page too.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Link20XX (talk) 19:20, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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Terrone69 (talk) 19:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

now he has 11.5m sub on his main yt channel

 Done Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 19:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (10)

Link the 'Dream SMP' text in 'Death' section to its article, Dream SMP. Angusgtw (talk) 19:57, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, just realised it is linked prior to that section, not sure if it should be linked again? Angusgtw (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Normal it will only be linked once. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (11)

Remove article from the "YouTube channels closed in 2022" category - his channel is stil up: https://www.youtube.com/c/Technoblade Guyfromearth2 (talk) 21:03, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 21:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2022 (12)

- Replace all but the first instance of "Alexander" with "Alex" and put "Alex" in quotes next to "Alexander" at the top. - Change "20 million views" to "30 million views" Distrohopper39b (talk) 23:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done The 20 million number is from those sources, so I am hesitant to change it without a better source, though I did update the view count in the next line down. Regarding the naming, I recommend you participate in the above discussion (section "Addressing the subject by first name in subsequent use") about just that. Link20XX (talk) 00:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022

Adding Dave to the list of Also Know As, as he was also know as "Dave" despite him doing it as a prank. It is still major enough that people actually thought that he's name was actually Dave, so I felt like it's worth adding. Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 00:45, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. You'll need to provide reliable secondary sources detailing this to demonstrate it's due for inclusion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:51, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Here's a brief mention of it by the verge, with the highlighted text:

-https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/1/23191022/technoblade-dies-cancer-final-video-message#:~:text=In%20a%20video%20uploaded%20to,Dave%20in%20an%20earlier%20video.)

Here's another by BBC

-https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62006852 Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 01:15, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to lean on rejecting. It's covered in the prose, and I don't think it's worth mentioning as part of the infobox. SWinxy (talk) 01:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok, this discussion is settled then. I feel like a mention in the pose is good enough, I didn't know it was mentioned in the pose previously (I may or may not be blind [it's a joke]). Good day or night -- Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 01:26, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Marking resolved per the above discussion concluding. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 01:40, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (2)

Change number of subscribers (main channel) from 11.6 million to 12 million. Reav ttv (talk) 01:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done SWinxy (talk) 01:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (5)

Villager3222 (talk) 10:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Please specify what you want to change. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 10:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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80.246.139.59 (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Please specify your edit request. Blue Edits (talk) 12:37, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (3)

Set "Died" To "Technoblade Never Dies" Add Attribute "Minecraft & YouTube Account Relinquished" As June 2022 SushantShah Dev (talk) 04:14, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

No lol, can an mod deny this request. I know this is a joke but still. Anyways Technoblade Never Dies! Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 04:27, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done per above. Link20XX (talk) 04:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (4)

Technoblade, was a great man. He impacted many lives. He was a source of inspiration to so many people. 5.30.201.69 (talk) 08:01, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

I want this sentence to be added onto the article. I know that this probably will not make it onto the article, but I do not care. I at least, tried to make this make it into the article. 5.30.201.69 (talk) 08:04, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

And I do not want to remove any sentence on the article. 5.30.201.69 (talk) 08:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done

it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Also your request is not written in a neutral point of view.  Thingofme (talk) 08:06, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Technoblade, was a great man. He impacted many lives. He was a source of inspiration to so many people, added at the end of the introduction. 5.30.201.69 (talk) 14:33, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

As that sentence added at the end of introduction 5.30.201.69 (talk) 14:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

That, unfortunately, would not fall into a neutral point of view, which Wikipedia requires, and would be original research without a reliable source stating that. If a reliable source states that, it could in theory potentially be added if attributed to that source. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022

I want to change technoblades subscriber count and YouTube related information Manroop 3112 (talk) 08:33, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes Manroop 3112 (talk) 08:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Also the subscriber count is now updated already. Thingofme (talk) 08:43, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (2)

Change "had" in the line "Technoblade's YouTube channel had more than 12 million subscribers" to "has". PeeGeePee (talk) 10:21, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done MadGuy7023 (talk) 10:45, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (6)

Change [combat] to [[combat]] Rots61 (talk) 10:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

I've removed the word as it wasn't in the citation. Additionally, I don't think the word is even needed here because "player versus player" usually refers to combat in Minecraft. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 11:12, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (7)

Readd the {{recent death}} template to the top of the article since his death was only two days ago and it's already been removed. 172.112.210.32 (talk) 15:44, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: The recent death template is only typically in place when there is a flurry of activity and, per the template itself, "should be used only in cases where many editors (perhaps dozens or more) are editing the article on the same day." The template explains that it "does not merely denote that an article's subject has recently died. " --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:32

A little update on his death date

Wilbur Soot confirmed on his stream that Technoblade passed before the end of the vidcon. So if u guys can update that to June 25th 109.173.252.169 (talk) 18:26, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: That, unfortunately, isn't a reliable source. Please do let us know if this has been covered by media or released by Technoblade's family in a verifiable way (that would also be acceptable). TheSandDoctor ^Talk 19:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Date of death

Just wanted to add as a confirmation that Alex did not die on June 30th 2022. He died during Vidcon, the exact date is still unknown but this is just to diffuse any questions about if it was the 30th. Wilbur Soot confirmed in his most recent stream 'lets remember our friend' at 1 hour and 9 minutes that he told Tommyinnit after Vidcon that Alex died during Vidcon. 2A00:23C7:8084:D201:24F7:7FEC:5625:DEB8 (talk) 18:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: That, unfortunately, isn't a reliable source. Please do let us know if this has been covered by media or released by Technoblade's family in a verifiable way (that would also be acceptable). TheSandDoctor ^Talk 19:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2022 (5)

In personal life maybe add that it was believed for him to have 3 sisters and 1 brother 2001:569:5166:300:B426:86B4:79E4:417C (talk) 19:14, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: We need a reliable source for this. If you can supply one, we can reconsider. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 19:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022

I wanna edit because im gonna change the date to June 30 Villager3222 (talk) 02:30, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: As the note says, most reliable sources state the 30th as the announcement, not the actual death. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 02:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022 (2)

Change 'According to PinkNews, Technoblade was "Known for his dark and sarcastic sense of humour".' to 'According to PinkNews, Technoblade was "known for his dark and sarcastic sense of humour".' Because, y'know. VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 11:59, 3 July 2022 (UTC) VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 11:59, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 Already done ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 12:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Technoblade faked his death, remove death timestamp

Remove info about his (fake) death Technoblade faked his death! (I can't paste a link with proofs right here as it counts as an advertising) GEOEGII555 (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Paste it. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 15:33, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPtk0tE_T8c (Don't ban me) GEOEGII555 (talk) 15:34, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Should this page be moved to Technoblade?

There is no other "Technoblade" to disambiguate this one from. At that page was a redirect to Dream SMP#Cast. Vresod (talk) 04:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The page should be moved to Technoblade. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 04:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I agree, I was just following the format of other Youtubers with the title (YouTuber) beside their name. Johnson524 (talk) 05:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

No it should not be moved! JOHNY ROLAND (talk) 06:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as lacking sufficient context to identify its subject, because... (your reason here) --SpriteSens (talk) 04:17, 1 July 2022 (UTC) The page is being heavily updated to fix up the page and add more information about Technoblade. It should not be deleted.

Let's see how it goes. Technblade has a draft, but due to the lack of sources, he wasn't notable. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 04:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Dude what the fuck. He has over 10 million subscribers. Just because he wasn’t put in some fancy scientific journals or any of that shit doesn’t mean he isn’t notable. God your notability requirements suck. He’s way more well know than probably 90% of the “notable” people you guys write articles about. Don’t take his article down, especially now right after he died. So insensitive. Cboi Sandlin (talk) 04:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Watch your tone. I simply explained he wasn't notable. Wikipedia has guidelines that are in place for a reason. If the community agrees to the deletion, then it will be a draft. You are an editor on here, so you should be familiar with how things work. You and other any editors can improve on the draft, then he can have his own article. It's not that hard to provided sources. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 05:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

If we added every YouTuber that had little to no coverage in reliable outlets just solely on their subscriber count, there would be a plethora of poorly verified articles that don't explain in detail why they're important for readers to learn about. As much as I detest how stringent the notability guidelines can be, at the end of the day you have to look outside your perspective. Besides the fans of a subject, most readers not well-versed in internet culture would be confused about what makes them worth remembering without any reliable sources, and would dismiss it as trivial information. That's why this site has these requirements in the first place, so even people biased against internet personalities would understand their notability.

But anyways, I think it should be fine now. Multiple sources do exist for him that prove he's notable, enough to probably survive an AfD (although probably not without an extremely lengthy debate). PantheonRadiance (talk) 05:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@PantheonRadiance: Because multiple sources exist now to prove notability, that is the reason I created this page again to begin with. Along with the 12 references posted in this talk page (thank you and Link20XX by the way 🙂), the fact that multiple news outlets have now made articles discussing him, I felt that it would be best to remake this page. I do not have a doubt anymore that there will be a lack of citations of information for this article, as Technoblade had been involved in many notable groups and events. That being said, I absolutely hear what you and Btspurplegalaxy are saying. In no way did I mean to push the boundaries of what qualifies as a notable article, and I am really sorry if I came off that way. Thank you for your comments and feedback, I really am grateful, as I'm still learning new stuff everyday. Thank you taking care of Wikipedia, and helping it to be the best website it can be. Cheers! Johnson524 (talk) 06:08, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Johnson524: Oh no worries, I understand. Part of Wikipedia at times is going bold in order to create the change you want to see on the site. Personally I'm an inclusionist so as long as someone or something has enough sources covering them, I'm perfectly fine allowing them as articles. I would've even been okay if you only used two sources that covered Techno in detail. PantheonRadiance (talk) 06:38, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@PantheonRadiance: I really appreciate it man! Thank you for understanding and for replying. Johnson524 (talk) 06:41, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I generally feel that Technoblade is notable enough to have his own Wikipedia article. SpriteSens (talk) 06:37, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Merge

Now that this person has an article, some of the contents of Draft:Technoblade should be merged here. Link20XX (talk) 04:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Not a whole lot from the draft can be merged. A lot of WP:SPSs and WP:OR. Some citations can be copied over, though. SWinxy (talk) 04:23, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I realize the draft is bad but there is probably something worth using though. Link20XX (talk) 04:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

This article honestly should've gone through AfC first, but there are several WP:SIGCOV articles about him. I'm posting several sources here from the draft and on Google News, then I'll de-PROD it Seems like someone already did. PantheonRadiance (talk) 04:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

For some refs now, I did find this, this, and this, which could be useful for expansion. He also had a voice-over role in the English dub of Tribe Nine (ref), so that could be worth noting too. Link20XX (talk) 04:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Great. For anyone questioning the notability of the subject and/or wish to expand the article, I posted a small list of usable sources. PantheonRadiance (talk) 05:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you or posting this! These will absolutely be helpful in expanding the article 🙂 Johnson524 (talk) 05:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome :) PantheonRadiance (talk) 05:53, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Add an image

I think in the death section we could add the image of him with the play button from the last video , for honor his memory. Toto23344 (talk) 13:03, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I think we will have problems doing that because of Wikipedia's copyright rules. Pyraminxsolver (talk) 13:13, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

P.S. here are the copyright rules. And no, we will not create a full memorial section. This is an encyclopedia article, not a memorial and there are better places where we can mourn him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A diehard editor (talk • contribs) 15:28, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Request for full protection for forseeable future, 1 July 2022

Think at this stage it's only fair to close the page to all editing at this stage, as while trying to edit this, It's been vandalised with a massive picture of a penis (both in article and replacing the infobox picture), before that was swiftly replaced with a man bending over and gaping his asshole, with undoubtedly more beforehand. I'm not suggesting a full lockdown til the end of time, but just locking it so there will be absolutely no edits until, say, the end of the month, by which time the trolls who did this will have moved on. POTH94 (talk) 13:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

EDIT: I've gone back to the page, and it's still pinging back and forth between a cock and a gaping asshole. For the love of christ, lock the page down. POTH94 (talk) 13:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The page has been protected; errant editors have been blocked. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:59, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Penis image + some other trolling

I am trying to fix the issue, please remain calm Crannofonix (talk) 13:53, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I just came to the page today, and to see this happening is just beyond f-cked up 131.150.208.144 (talk) 13:56, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Is there any proof that he died in late June?

Is there any source that could confirm he passed away in late June instead of early June? Unspectrogram (talk) 14:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Some online sources, including an obituary (discussed above), indicate 10 June. No reliable sources provide an exact date, but it would be a mistake to presume that he died only a few days ago with evidence to the contrary. For accuracy I've removed "late" from the infobox. -- Hazhk (talk) 14:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Technoblade

He died on 30 June 2022. 103.21.126.81 (talk) 15:46, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source to support that assertion? Link20XX (talk) 15:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

How technoblade died?

How technoblade died? 2A00:7F20:B1BD:0:AC28:8F7C:9750:86A1 (talk) 17:44, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

It is mentioned in the article that he succumbed to cancer. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Request to specify death date

Wikipedia page of 2022 death confirms June 30. THEVERYLOL30 (talk) 19:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

See WP:CIRCULAR. What other articles say doesn't affect this one. Link20XX (talk) 19:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

And alongside the WP:CIRCULAR concerns, the deaths in 2022 page also doesn't say he died on June 30, and notes that this is only the date his death was announced. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 20:17, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Death date

It is confirmed he died the 30th of june 51.175.151.71 (talk) 20:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Confirmed where? You did not provide any proof. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Something tells me his family did not record, edit, and publish the announcement video all in one day, much less on the date of their son's passing. -Noellekiq (talk) 22:14, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

No chance that he died on the 30th. I have a feeling it was at least a week prior to the upload, giving them time to grieve and compose themselves to make the video, as well as for the editor to get it all put together. It's not a quick thing. POTH94 (talk) 00:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Technoblade sadly passed away on june 10th 2022, Multiple sources have confirmed this and ill see if i can find them Icymess (talk) 04:23, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

If you are aware of multiple reliable sources that confirm this, then I think we would be interested in seeing them here. Please get consensus on the talk page here before adding them to the body or changing the infobox. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:37, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Death date

I think he died july 1,can someone change it 47.188.155.186 (talk) 02:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Technoblade's death was confirmed on June 30, 2022. FAdesdae378 03:03, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

The death date is still unknown as of today, no RSs have back up this info. Thingofme (talk) 14:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Death date

@NickkkkBozekk: Sorry, your edit got sort of lost because of an edit conflict. Do you have a source for the death date (July 10)? VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 10:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Some obituaries were publicly available citing his date of death as June 10 (here's a tweet linking to one), but they have since been taken down at the family's request. I would personally recommend removing the mention of June 30 but not replacing it. 83.141.209.216 (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 12:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 July 2022 (5)

Died: July 2022

Source: Technoblades youtube channle Navhaarnav (talk) 20:20, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. His death was announced at the end of June. He would not announce his own death on his own channel. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:35, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022 (3)

24.218.182.42 (talk) 13:39, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I need info about Technoblade’s death in the last day of June which is June 30.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

questionable photo

pretty sure that gaping ass photo needs deleted, Pronto. 74.194.49.155 (talk) 12:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

It’s been deleted, the page has been protected, errant editors have been blocked. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Occupation parameter

Quick thought here, I just was wondering if we should include "livestreamer" in the occupation parameter. I initially thought it was redundant as he only livestreams on YouTube, and that "YouTuber" would suffice along with his livestreams.

There are special cases to include a streaming occupation such as a "Twitch streamer" because it uses a different media or platform. I haven't looked at the provided sources too much, but it still feels a bit redundant to include it here. Sparkl^talk 15:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Is including his real name really appropriate?

I feel like just having his first name there in the lead sort of breaks the flow? It's not like he was ever known mononymously by that, so it doesn't really work. Plus, he made pretty big efforts to straight up hide it in life (everyone thought his name was Dave, remember?) casualdejekyll 15:53, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Casualdejekyll: His family has disclosed his first name and multiple reliable sources have used it. MOS:FULLNAME also applies. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:00, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The name "Alexander" was literally used to describe him on his official website. What's the point of removing it? Fijipedia (talk) 16:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Synth and birthdates

For the benefit of those involved with the current editorial disagreement on whether the birthdate field is WP:SYNTH and to end the potential edit war, I thought I would comment here as someone who helped clarify the WP:BLPPRIVACY section last year (started the RfC) and wrote the update to that section (following its conclusion). WP:DOB, WP:SPS, and WP:CALC apply here. This is an explicit carve out from WP:OR and therefore also an exception to WP:SYNTH. cc @Pbrks and Link20XX: TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: Correct me if I am wrong, as I can't find it right now, but didn't that RfC come to the conclusion that it was unclear whether or not it was appropriate to stitch birth dates based on different sources. I question the reliability of the source that was most recently given, as well; moreover, reliable sources such as https://www.thewrap.com/technoblade-popular-minecraft-youtuber-dies-after-cancer-battle/ even do not give an exact DOB. Regardless, I'll leave it as is, as it would be an uphill battle. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 15:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Pbrks: The RfC came out of a situation where there were (well, still are) multiple years of birth in RS in conflict in another article and found that, when that situation exists, all dates/years with reliable sources should be included with the discrepancies noted.. It did not change or overrule WP:CALC. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

This discussion is moot anyway because the website states 1999-2022, thus clearly implying he was born in 1999. The tweet confirms he was born on June 1, so no calculations are even needed. Link20XX (talk) 15:55, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Link20XX: You are correct. My original comment was started before that change was noted and I believe was still valuable (achieved its purpose) as it corrected a policy misunderstanding per the below and serves as an educational tool for anyone else wondering who goes here/can be linked to if the issue crops back up for some reason. My only purpose in engaging in this thread was to help avoid an edit war/sanctions on others, educate, and come to a common understanding. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I see, perhaps I am misremembering. Thanks for the clarification. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 15:58, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Pbrks: You are welcome! I am quite proud that I was able to help clarify that policy for that edge case should it come around again. The RfC is here. The closing comment does refer to WP:OR (reaffirming not to engage in it as that was a problem at that article), but it does not change that policy or its carve-out any. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:13, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Unreliable sources

I noticed this article currently cites Looper and Sportskeeda, though these are unreliable sources per WP:VGRS. Could these be removed and/or replaced? Link20XX (talk) 15:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

This has been  Done by others. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

YouTube channels closed in 2022?

I don't understand the addition of this category. Tecnho's channel did not get closed down, he died. Obviously not the same thing. 89.243.125.209 (talk) 15:49, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Closed as in, no new videos. You can still watch the old ones though. A diehard editor (talk | edits)

P.S. The category got removed. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 21:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Information

Information from an archived obituary: (Redacted) Zyperx7 (talk) 19:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I think that using that as a source would violate WP:BLPPRIVACY (which still applies to recent deaths) since they made a clear attempt not to publicize that information and no reliable source, primary or secondary, has picked it up. Link20XX (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Given that this page has since been deleted and is only accessible via archive, I really don't think anything from it should be included. However it provides confirmation that he didn't die on June 30th as some edits would suggest, and that his death date should be simply left as "June" for now. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:03, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

redacted the link per WP:BLPNAME –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 22:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Can someone please put the period inside the quote.

Can someone with extend conf please put the period inside the quote for this statement "the video they shared contains all information they are comfortable sharing at this time". It's in the death section.

It annoys me, Good day or night (PS I don't know how to make extended conf prot edit requests) -- Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done and I think if you just attempt to edit the page you'll get a big blue button allowing you to submit an edit request. Not 100% sure and it's probably different for mobile edits anyway. --N8_wilson 🔔 23:12, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

IDK lol i've been on wikipedia for 4 months and I haven't figured it out, but when i click on the blue padlock it just takes me to the wiki page for extend conf protection. (I'm on pc) Good day or night -- Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 23:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

A belated Welcome! to you then @Randomdudewithinternet!

Turns out you might have a button that reads "View source" in place of the normal "Edit" button you might click to make changes to articles. If you click "View source" then you should get the blue button to "Submit an edit request". --N8_wilson 🔔 23:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Good day or night -- Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 23:55, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Kotaku death date

I recently found a Kotaku source that explicitly stated: "Technoblade (or Techno for short), a popular Minecraft YouTuber and internet personality with over 11 million followers on the video-creating platform, passed away on June 30 after losing his battle against cancer. He was just 23 years old."

I am very puzzled as to include the death date mentioned in this source. Sparkl^talk 16:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

There was also another source from NBC New York stating: "Minecraft YouTuber, known to fans online as Technoblade, has passed away after battling cancer, his family confirmed June 30. He was 23." Again, I'm unsure if this is controversial to include this. Sparkl^talk 17:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

• @Sunshineisles2: Kotaku states that the death date is June 30th, NBC appears to potentially mean that. Stating that "no source is saying he died on June 30" is factually incorrect based on the (reliable) source(s) that you removed. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  did not see the Kotaku article and should have checked it (I was admittedly editing faster than normal to try to avoid hitting an edit conflict), but I would contend against NBC "potentially meaning" June 30. the only invocation of that date is the sentence "Minecraft YouTuber, known to fans online as Technoblade, has passed away after battling cancer, his family confirmed June 30," which only indicates when the death was announced. deaths are often announced some time after they've happened, of course. my initial suspicion, not knowing an RS was claiming a death date of June 30, was not to assume it as my guess (read: not based on any concrete information) is that it's rather unlikely that an entire video featuring his family would be produced and uploaded within 24 hours of his death. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  @Sunshineisles2: Please be careful with edits; conflicts are annoying but we need to be careful. I will give you that with NBC, but Kotaku is a reliable source (WP:VGRS) that explicitly stated it and we don't have any other reliable sources contradicting that date. The article can always be updated if that later turns out to be incorrect and other RS state something else consistently. Speculating that it is impractical would be, by definition, original research and contrary to an established RS story. Would you please reinstate the Kotaku source? TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:59, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  I'm not trying to be difficult here but looking through other discussion on this page, I'm not sure that adding an unadorned June 30 is the best course of action. Earlier discussions on this talk page seem to suggest that some sources were once reporting another death date but were later removed at the family's request. Now, obviously I can't source this but I think there is some disagreement over when he died. Again, I'm not trying to de-emphasize the significance of an RS claiming a date, but there seems to be evidence here that this is not the only date that is being or has been cited. I do agree, however, that we shouldn't operate under the claim that nobody is claiming a death date. I wonder if we could have some kind of temporary workaround pending more confirmation, like saying that Kotaku reports a June 30 DoD but other sources have apparently specifically declined to state one. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:14, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  @Sunshineisles2: I think a workaround could work (in a note or body), but the problem is that we don't have a source for the "specifically declined to state one" bit. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, it is one of those things where we'd be trying to cite the absence of something, which by definition is not really viable. Perhaps a workaround that softens it even more—noting that his death was announced on June 30, one source says he died on that day (Kotaku), but other sources (like NBC, Variety, CNN, and the BBC) only report his death was announced on that date (actually, in the BBC's case, they seem to have sidestepped the question entirely for now). If the New York Times were to report on his death, there might be more clarity, as from my experience their obits usually make a point to mention any discrepancies out front, like saying "so-and-so's death was announced in a statement on [Date X], which did not say when they died." -- Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  @Sunshineisles2: That works for me. Do you think that that would be best in the note or body? TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  I think editing the existing note would be the best course of action. When families have declined to announce death dates, usually the article body reads fine with just the announcement date clarified as such. There's no need to call overt attention to it outside of the occasional case where multiple sources report different death dates for somebody. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  I've updated the note.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:59, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  @Sunshineisles2: Looks good! Glad we could come to a decent compromise and come together for the overall improvement of the article! TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:12, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, I think this was a good and fair way to handle updating the article. The New York Times has just run a piece quoting a rep from a company Technoblade worked with, saying that the info in the video is what the family is comfortable sharing for now, so I think this is the best way to leave that portion of the article. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:23, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  Indeed. I know I am not alone in believing it is a shame that this article didn't exist when he was alive to see it. I understand why (sourcing must exist etc), but that doesn't mean it isn't a shame. Hope you keep well, @Sunshineisles2:! May our paths cross again (positively). TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  Agreed. And thanks for the kind words - sending well-wishes to you, too. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:58, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for solving the issue guys! I honestly could never have came up with the idea of putting an explanatory note down... good choice! Sparkl^talk 23:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

  I can understand this logic here, I guess WP:CONTEXTMATTERS also applies here as well. Sparkl^talk 18:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Addressing the subject by first name in subsequent use

MOS:SURNAME is pretty clear that we should address the subject of the article as Technoblade rather than Alexander in subsequent uses of the subject after the lead. We almost never refer to a subject by first name (exceptions being limited to Royals, subjects using a patronymic, etc.). Is there any objection to fixing this here? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 22:10, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

None from me. Consistent with guidelines. Boldness welcome here. --N8_wilson 🔔 23:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@MJL: I concur with N8wilson, go ahead. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:39, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I have no opposition either. Link20XX (talk) 23:48, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I agree. I also think the lead should begin with the pseudonym, not his first name. SWinxy (talk) 23:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I would oppose the lead beginning with the pseudonym; beginning with the real name is in line with MOS:BIRTHNAME. Link20XX (talk) 00:01, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thank you all. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 00:17, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Notch tribute

It should be added that Minecraft creator Notch payed tribute on twitter: https://twitter.com/notch/status/1542832310407405568?s=20&t=jBlXwwyWoE96SlknZZndKQ 172.119.250.17 (talk) 05:13, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Unless it's noted in a reliable source, I don't see a reason this Twitter tribute should be elevated over others. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 05:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I think it should be noted that the YouTube itself also payed tributes, documented here: https://mashable.com/article/technoblade-minecraft-youtube-tributes OMGDaYT (talk) 05:50, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022

In the last sentence of the Career section, decapitalize 'known': "According to PinkNews, Technoblade was "Kknown for his dark and sarcastic sense of humour"." LightNightLights ^(talk) 14:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 Already done by User:XxLuckyCxX. Thanks for the request. Blue Edits (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022 (4)

Remove the last sentence on "Career" section as it violates both WP:NPOV and WP:RS 1stman2die4evR (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. Pink News is a notable source, and there is no issue with NPOV and RS because it is a properly attributed quotation, not stating anything in Wikipedia's voice. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:54, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022 (2)

Techno blade died ion the 30th of June. Change June 2022) to June 30th 2022) 2A02:C7F:C8C:A700:4D78:934:5262:AE3A (talk) 21:34, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. SWinxy (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022 (6)

Technoblade has a Tiktok account named @iamtechnoblade, it was confirmed in the Technothepig video "Technoblade joins TikTok". The Tiktok account currently has 2.8m followers and a single video (the same video that is on the technothepig channel). The video has 13.4m views and 3.3m likes. (all numbers are as of 22/07/03). In the youtube comments of the video he claims he joined TikTok to "dunk on impersonators" and that he wasn't planning on uploading anything. Youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ssVkfBLXQQ , Tiktok account https://www.tiktok.com/@iamtechnoblade . My request is that this information is added under the Career subtitle. 78.72.204.47 (talk) 19:59, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

So I also wanted to add an external link to his twitter account, when I learned the section is only the most notable external links, which is something I didn't know beforehand. I could add it, but I would need a consensus from other editors. Johnson524 (talk) 21:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Typically I've always seen peoples' Twitter account listed in the EL section. Mentioning the TikTok account isn't really noteworthy since he never did anything with it. SWinxy (talk) 21:58, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Per WP:ELMIN and WP:ELOFFICIAL. The linked content primarily covers the area for which the subject of the article is notable: notability of the subject is not covered by the one TikTok video. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 22:26, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 July 2022

As of July Technoblade has 13 million subscribers 47.36.43.110 (talk) 00:33, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

It's already been updated. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 01:14, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2022 (5)

Change amount of subscribers from 12.7 mil too 12.9 mil (as of 22/07/03) Add a section that states his main channel, Technoblade, has 988 videos (as of 22/07/03) with the 988th being the announcement of his death. That video also became his most popular video in only 4 days, surpassing the previous 8 year old number one video titled "Proof I don't autoclick". 78.72.204.47 (talk) 19:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I will be updated later tonight, thanks you for the request 🙂 Johnson524 (talk) 21:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Done by someone else it seems. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 01:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Lead name

Should we really start the lead with 'Alexander'? I understand that that's policy, but the point stands that he's apparently better known as 'Dave' then 'Alexander'. His real name was revealed only recently and his full name isn't even known. I would like another opinion on this. Thanks, VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 06:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Dave isn't his real name. Dave was only used for a prank video back in 2016 mentioned in his latest video. I think Alexander should be used, since it's his real name, even if it was recently revealed. Also he never personally used the name Dave. Technoblade was a private figure when it came to his identity. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 06:56, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Btspurplegalaxy: I know Dave isn't his real name. My point was that, up to now, more people knew him as and believed his name was Dave than Alexander. VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 07:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I see no real reason to put a name on here merely due to the fact it was a rumored name for him. I could understand if it was a name he personally went by, but that isn't the case. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 07:14, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I didn't say I was going to put 'Dave' into the lead; it was just to illustrate the relative obscurity of the name. VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 07:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

You could put also known as Dave or something related to that wording. Since it is mentioned in the personal life section. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 08:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Lead should not include 'Alexander' by its own. Unless his last/full name is published in a very reputable source, only include it in the infobox. SWinxy (talk) 07:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

That information will never be publicized due to his family wanting to keep it private. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 07:10, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

NYT or WaPo or any other number of highly-valued RSPs might still publish it, regardless of his family's wishes, and we have an obligation to include it. WP:BLPPRIVACY is not applicable anymore. SWinxy (talk) 07:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't think it will be, but if somehow it is, then it could be used. The point is, if we only have his first name then what is supposed to be used? Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 07:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

BLP absolutely applies to RECENTLY deceased persons, as is explained in the guideline. Hemiauchenia (talk) 08:39, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I think 'Dave' should not be the lead. However, it might be good to include 'Dave' in the leading paragraphs. 和每個人好好相處 (talk) 03:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

The video - the only source - gives his name as Alex. It's original research to extrapolate that it's short for Alexander, so if we're using his real name in the article it should be "Alex" not "Alexander". WaggersTALK 10:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Waggers: His website names him Alexander. VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 11:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Should probably be added as a ref footnote at the first mention of his name as I'm sure I won't be the only one that hadn't seen his website and wondered why we're using a different name to all the news articles about him. WaggersTALK 11:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Should we even put the name in at all? I think it might be a BLP thing here. casualdejekyll 15:55, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I am honestly against the first name being included. It gives me weird vibes to have a first name without a last name. Regardless, the subsequent use is a violation of MOS:SURNAME (which I'm going to start a seperate thread about). –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 22:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 July 2022 (3)

I would like to nominate this article for Good Article, so if someone extended-confirmed can add "{{subst:GAN|subtopic=Video games}}" on top of the article, please do. Thank you. GTNO6 (talk) 07:55, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: The template documentation within Template:GAN says that it must be placed on the Talk Page of the article, not the article itself. MadGuy7023 (talk) 08:01, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh yeah, you're right. Sorry, my bad. GTNO6 (talk) 08:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Part of the Wikipedia:Good article criteria is stability in the article. Given his recent passing and the recent flurry of activity on the article it might be best to wait maybe a month and let this surge in activity and edit requests die down before nominating it as a GA. - Aoidh (talk) 08:52, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 July 2022 (4)

Change "since then, only one video remains visible to the public." to "since then, only nine videos remains visible to the public.". Incorrect statement, as going on the link clearly shows nine public videos. Max263 (talk) 16:07, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 16:09, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Achievements

Nobody gonna talk about his achievements and highlights. 500mil potatoes, elbow reveal, the epic duel, 1000 winstreak, etc. 2001:14BB:AF:B379:EB06:5E51:FF0D:A52D (talk) 09:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately there's just not reliable sources discussing these facts at the moment. Hemiauchenia (talk) 09:10, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Based on the precedent that we're allowing tweets from his Twitter account as reputable sources:

• 500 million potatoes: https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1282772047244877824, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1275105974097817600, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1264330734254227456, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1195084786752114688
• Elbow reveal: https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1163148895372767233, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1163242682728079360
• Bedwars winstreak: https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/913064769627725824, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/914500010015895554, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/917963353179475969
• Minecraft Ultimate participation + victory: https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1287172328405655552
• PIG+++ rank: https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1107408847109390336, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1143313288396075008, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1144334751077040128, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1154960411382259714, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1166160929131618304

This is of course just a preliminary list, whittle it down and do as you wish. I gotta eat m'lunch now. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 14:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

OK, back from lunch. Here we go:

• Steering wheel: https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/889594069495631872, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/888694762407985152, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/887856796747964416, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/884832558848102401
• ADHD: https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/957990797193785344, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/922359481605877761, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/888969317919752192
• Bedwars winstreak (addt'l links): https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/919455629651013635
• PIG+++ rank (addt'l links): https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/917953480278532096, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/916953609190780928, https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/909723069714796544

Again, just a preliminary list. All in compliance with WP:TWITTER. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 15:42, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@Hemiauchenia Let me know if I did something wrong. Thanks in advance; my last activity on Wikipedia was a couple of years ago and I've been rusty with the policies since. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 04:06, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@RayDeeUx: One million thanks for finding these citations! Implementing them now 😀 Johnson524 (talk) 06:35, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@Johnson524: Please don't. Please review the provisions of WP:ABOUTSELF. It's important that we follow that and provide WP:DUE weight for Technoblade's achievements. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 06:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@RayDeeUx: I'm sorry, I just published and I was unaware of this. I can undo the most of it if that is what needs to be done, but that is a shame. Thanks for informing me on this. Johnson524 (talk) 06:59, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@Johnson524 Bit too hasty there, mate. Give this discussion a bit more time first.

@MJL Perhaps I may have misinterpreted some of the provisions in WP:TWITTER/WP:ABOUTSELF. My intent was to provide a list of Technoblade's tweets that documented those achievements, and whittle it down (via discussion with others) to about one tweet per achievement as per:

• the precedent of using one of his tweets as a source for Technoblade having ADHD
• provision 5 of WP:TWITTER, so that the citations aren't overrun with Twitter links.

What do you think is the best move from here? Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 16:35, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@RayDeeUx, @MJL: I am currently editing the page and finding actual reliable news sources to cited, on top of the tweet already there. It is going to take some time, but I'm going to make this right. Thanks for the information. Johnson524 (talk) 16:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok, the edit is posted. The only information I couldn't find a news source citing is the bedwars win-streak in beginning career. Other than this, the section should look good now. Thank you both for your your help in correcting this. Johnson524 (talk) 17:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Did a bit of c/e'ing on the career section and separated Technoblade, the online persona, from Alexander, the individual person.

Still waiting to hear back from MJL (or anyone else, really) on source usage. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 22:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

There are some listed in reference suggestions at the top of the page. VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 12:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Change time video released

According to GMT time, his death was announced July 1st, and only June 30th in a select few places Aquavison (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:58, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Since Technoblade was in the United States (where it was June 30 when the video was uploaded), that should stay as the date listed for the upload. Link20XX (talk) 02:18, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 July 2022

The last sentence of the "Career" section states that Technoblade had reached 10.8 million subscribers by the time of his death, however, the source only says that's how many subscribers he had at the time of writing. This should be changed from 10.8 million to 10.4 million as according to Social Blade he had 10.5 million by the end of the day, and an archive shows he only had 10.4 million, minutes after the announcement's upload. 99.245.116.14 (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done I've updated the wording to say around instead of by. The proposed edit seems too close to WP:OR for my preferences. Though, WP:CALC does give some leeway here, I'd rather just stick to what the secondary source says rather than find our own number through an alternative methodology. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 05:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 July 2022 (2)

Change "he frequented the minigame server Hypixel." to "he frequently plays on the minigame server Hypixel." Grammar corrections, made it easier to read. Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 03:01, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

 Already done by X-Editor –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 03:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

• It should be "played", not "plays", due to his recent passing away. GTNO6 (talk) 07:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

  Yea thanks, it was late for me Randomdudewithinternet (talk) 21:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

There is no mention of "plays". Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 07:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

There is, in the request. GTNO6 (talk) 08:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

It's a moot point anyways since X-Editor took care of it anyways and used the past tense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 05:20, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 July 2022

Technoblade in June 30, 2022 can you add 30 to the date of death area Partyfrittata (talk) 12:21, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: No; as stated in the FAQ at the top of this talk page, the specific date of his death has not been disclosed by a published source. You should also read Wikipediaʻs policies regarding reliable sources and verifiability. Musashi1600 (talk) 12:27, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 July 2022 (2)

Replace Mojang (old name) with Mojang Studios Unspectrogram (talk) 14:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done WaggersTALK 14:44, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

The Pinknews source

I take a huge issue with the pinknews source attached to the sentence mentioning Technoblade's adhd, since it only briefly mentions it in passing in an article otherwise about a controversial tweet that isn't actually shown in the article and I was told was actually made by Dream instead of Technoblade. It absolutely needs to be replaced by a batter source. I don't care if it's also from pinknews, but it shouldn't be the one about overblown twitter drama. Unnamed anon (talk) 04:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Why is that a problem? The article is not being used to add the Twitter drama (because that would be undue weight), but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be used for other statements made in it. After all, PinkNews is considered a reliable source by WP:RSP. As it happens, that was the only reliable, secondary, and non-opinion source that I have found that backs up that claim. If you have a better source that meets all of those criteria, then you are welcome to post it. But unless you have one (and even if you do), I don't see any problems keeping the current citation, as it meets all the standards it needs to meet to be used. Link20XX (talk) 04:09, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I should add that the sources you're adding to replace them are worse than what you're trying to replace. If your concern is that it only mentions ADHD in passing, why are you trying to replace it with sources that also only mention it in passing? - Aoidh (talk) 04:20, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

The problem is that the mention of adhd is so brief in the pinknews article compared to the rest of the article, which is otherwise so full of undue weight about twitter drama and doesn't even show the controversial tweet it was talking about that it damages the reliability of the actual article (keyword article, not site. I already knew that pinknews is considered reliable and have no problem if a different article from pinknews mentions adhd and we use that instead). My main concern is less that it mentions adhd in passing and more the fact that the article is filled with too much twitter drama about a tweet that the article doesn't even show. I want to reiterate a third time: just because the article itself isn't an opinion piece and the site is otherwise reliable, doesn't mean it's filled with too much garbage that it's just more worth it to find a better source that actually talks about Technoblade instead of an angry mob tweeting about him over a tweet the article doesn't show. Unnamed anon (talk) 04:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

The article doesn't show the Tweet because it was deleted. Plus, it doesn't have to at all; just the fact that a reliable source is reporting it is enough for us to assume it is true. Link20XX (talk) 04:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I realize the source is reliable, but it's also very wildly off-topic. It's about angry twitter mobs either defending or pointlessly attacking Technoblade, not Technoblade himself. I relaize the sources I was trying to replace it with weren't as consistently reliable, but they were actually about Technoblade instead of some twitter drama that lasted for a few days. It seriously irks me that some pointless twitter arguments on an article not even about Technoblade are now immortalized because it happened to mention that Technoblade has adhd. It would be like if the only secondary source for a movie director's birthday was for an article about a controversy surrounding a negative review of their otherwise positively received movie; it's so indirect and calls too much attention to such a pointless controversy that at that point a primary source is more fitting. I'm now heavily considering if reinstating Technoblade's tweets would be a better choice since according to WP:V, Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves. However, I'm also wondering if the adhd mention should be removed because there's not meaningful secondary coverage, or if it should stay since his adhd is one of the few details of his personal life he was open about Unnamed anon (talk) 06:49, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

@Link20XX: To clarify: As I linked to Unnamed anon yesterday, the "was Hitler a lesbian?" tweet that caused the initial backlash against Technoblade is still up on Twitter [1]. It was never deleted. I'm not saying this should be covered in the article. Also, despite what Unnamed anon says, the backlash lasted longer than a "few days"—at least, the negative opinion of him amongst those particular Dream SMP fans lasted until his death. Again, not saying these people and their perspective are worthwhile enough to cover or that we should even want to, but Technoblade was considered one of the more "controversial" personalities during his time on there because of it (and maybe a couple other things he apparently said on Discord that were screenshotted), despite being as PG as possible during his streams. Ss112 07:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Link20XX, Aoidh, Ss112, I asked how to deal with this situation in the blp noticeboard since the only secondary source was super indirect, and was told by Zaereth that "If those are the best sources we got, then I would generally say remove it." I realize that Pinknews is a reliable source, but having a source about dumb twitter drama is undue weight regardless of the fact that we're not using any of the content about the twitter flame wars. There is also the fact that, as Zaereth puts it, "lot's of people say they have ADHD, but how many have been diagnosed as such?" Thirdly, is his adhd even notable enough given that it has such little secondary coverage, and did Technoblade himself bring it up often (genuine question, because I rarely watched his videos myself)? Fourth, regardless of the site being reliable, the actual article loses a lot of credibility if it claims that the tweet is deleted when it's clearly still up, as Ss112 linked. Unnamed anon (talk) 11:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2022

I want to edit Technoblade's Wikipedia page to be written on his death not June 2022, but June 30, 2022 because he died on June 30th Erekle Makhara (talk) 12:21, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Not done: some sources report that that's only when his death was revealed, not the actual day he died. To be safe, we're not considering June 30 the official death date. Unnamed anon (talk) 12:26, 7 July 2022 (UTC)