Talk:Tūpuna Maunga o Tāmaki Makaurau

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Article scope: TM to TMA[edit]

As is, this article (at Tūpuna Maunga) implies that the tūpuna maunga of Tāmaki are the only tūpuna maunga, or that the concept of tūpuna maunga is only used to refer to these mountains. It makes much more sense to have this article cover the Tūpuna Maunga Authority for the following reasons:

  • The maunga have their own articles dedicated to each respectively, so this article only really focuses on their status as a group.
  • As a group most coverage will be about their legal status and management, and primarily on the management under the Tūpuna Maunga o Tāmaki Makaurau Authority (TMA).
  • The TMA generates much more coverage in reliable sources than the maunga do as a group, and correspondingly, is the subject of much more interest from the public (Google trends).

Theoretically this article could cover the Tūpuna Maunga Authority as it relates to these tūpuna maunga, or it could cover these 14 tūpuna maunga as they are defined under the umbrella of the Tūpuna Maunga Authority. Given the above reasons, it makes more sense to restructure as the latter. One day it will be nice to have an article covering the concept of a tūpuna maunga that is helpful when talking about Taranaki, or Maunganui, but this article being the target of that link only serves to confuse that broader concept. — HTGS (talk) 12:41, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tūpuna Maunga to Tūpuna Maunga o Tāmaki Makaurau[edit]

HTGS has made good points about the title Tūpuna Maunga potentially being confused with other maunga or groups of maunga in future, if that term is more widely adopted.

The article is about the Tūpuna Maunga o Tāmaki Makaura as a group: what they are, what their significance is, who owns them, who administers them, and what happens to them collectively as public reserves.

The sources in the article are about them as a collective group, and the issues that effect them as a group. The coverage isn't about the Tāmaki Collective or the Tūpuna Maunga Authority entities, but how those entities relate to the Tūpuna Maunga o Tāmaki Makaura.

E James Bowman (talk) 03:49, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]