Talk:Ring Roads in South Africa

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Kimberley Ring Road[edit]

For me who studies the map of South Africa a lot, it is not clear how the city of "Kimberley" has a "ring road" formed by the national routes. With the way roads are today, how is it possible that there is a "ring road" there? Chils Kemptonian (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the section stating that Kimberley has a ring road, as it cannot be with the way roads are arranged there, especially with the roads which were mentioned. Chils Kemptonian (talk) 05:51, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pretoria Ring Road[edit]

Well, on the introductory paragraph of the "Pretoria Ring Road" page (which was previously named "Pretoria Bypass"), it states that there are only two highways forming a partial circle around Pretoria, namely the N4 (Northern Bypass) & the N1 (Eastern Bypass), which I believe is correct. It is not clear how the "N14" (Ben Schoeman Highway) forms part of a ring road when it's heading directly towards the Pretoria city centre from the south. It is not clear which roads form the "western part" of this ring road. So, I suggest we stick to what's written in the introductory paragraph of the article and say that there are only 2 sections (the N4 section and the N1 section; Not the N14, R80 and remaining roads). Chils Kemptonian (talk) 18:14, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have managed to change the article to reflect the current status of that "ring road"! Since there is no "western bypass" at present, the article shouldn't state that there is one. Thanks. Chils Kemptonian (talk) 05:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Town Ring Road[edit]

I think we need to edit the "wording" a bit on the "Cape Town Ring Road" paragraph to indicate that only a section of the city, not including the City Centre, is being "circled". If the M7 indeed forms the "western section" of that circular road, then we need to be more specific than just saying "it makes a circle around Cape Town"! Chils Kemptonian (talk) 21:08, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, every "ring road" mentioned is either "bypassing the city centre" or "forming a circle entirely around the city centre", which is the norm for such roads in South Africa! It clearly shows that the "Cape Town Ring Road" section may raise a concern for being the only part of the table that is of a different nature. So, just as I did in the "N21 (Cape Town)" article, I am changing the notes to talk about the "Peninsula Expressway" (N21), that is the route meant to connect the suburbs south of the Cape Town CBD (i.e. Muizenburg) with the suburbs north of the Cape Town CBD (i.e. Bloubergstrand & Melkbosstrand) via an easterly c-shaped ring road that passes through Mitchell's Plain and Durbanville. Chils Kemptonian (talk) 19:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ring Road Status[edit]

In South Africa, doesn't a road have to be a "Highway/Freeway" in order to be classified as an official "Ring Road"?

I'm asking because I am surprised that the article notes state that "George" in the Western Cape has got a "complete beltway"! The N9/N12, coming from the N2 interchange towards the Outeniqua Pass, is an ordinary road "passing through" the town centre (NOT "bypassing"). So, calling it the "George Eastern Bypass" would be wrong!

Also, mentioning the "M30" under the "Bloemfontein Ring Road" does not seem to be correct. Only the N1 from the N6 off-ramp northwards to the R30 off-ramp should be called the "Bloemfontein Bypass", not any internal "Metropolitan Route".

As we can see from the "Johannesburg", "Pretoria", "Polokwane", "Durban" & "Mbombela" Ring Roads (& even the new "Musina" ring road that was opened recently), ring roads in South Africa should be high-speed Freeways, not a general road with a traffic light, stop-sign or roundabout.

So, we may need to revisit and verify the information which we chose to indicate in this article. GeographicAccountant (talk) 01:01, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]