Talk:Political positions of Joe Biden

Grammatical Ambiguity

The first in the list of policies Biden supports from the second paragraph says

campaign finance reform including the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act and overturning Citizens United;[13][14]

When I first read it, I thought word "overturning" applied to the list of the rest of the policies he supports, which effectively makes the sentence say the opposite of what it really means. I could be valuable to rearrange the list of policies to put that at the end so that people dont mistakenly assume Biden is actually against all of the policies in the rest of the list by having the word "overturning" at the very end.

Another solution to this ambiguity could be to put "including the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act and overturning Citizens United" in parentheses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caleb Crowther (talk • contribs) 16:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

"Religious Faith" in Social Issues Section

Hi all. Reading through this, I saw that "religious faith" appears under the "Social Issues" section of this article. The content appears to be made of two items: the first item is that Biden is Catholic and is inspired by CST, while the second item refers to his 2011 statement on Romney's faith. The first item doesn't appear to actually be about his policies on religious faith, but more about the fact that Biden has a faith and draws from CST, so I'm not sure it's appropriate to include in this sort of organizational structure. The second might be a political position (he doesn't believe that religious faith should be a qualifier for office), though if the relevant subsection was about religious liberty/tolerance/pluralism, then I would think that the subsection probably should be re-titled along those lines. I wanted to put this down here first to check before making substantial edits to see if there is a longstanding reason as to the current organizational structure that I am missing. Does anybody else have any thoughts on this? — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Biden as a Christian Democrat?

Where is the evidence that Biden is a Christian Democrat? So, one guy wrote it one journal. So what? Christian Democrats are socially conservative. Biden is a strong social liberal who supports LGBT rights, and not only supports abortion, but wants to repeal the Hyde Amendment. He said repeatedly that Christians should not be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people. Biden is not a Christian Democrat. I will delete this, unless someone has a good reason to keep it. 108.18.65.13 (talk) 02:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Your personal analysis is not sufficient reason to remove that. See WP:NOR. EvergreenFir (talk) 02:32, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

How is it personal analysis? It is not "research" to say that he supports gay marriage? It is a statement of fact that Joe Biden is not a social conservative, the same way that is a statement of fact that the sky is blue. However, it is true that social conservatism is more mild in Europe than it is here, and Biden's social views, at least in his earlier career, could conceivably be in the same range. For this reason, if you could find more than one source to make the Christian Democrat claim, I would be more receptive. 108.18.65.13 (talk) 03:18, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

It might help to actually know what you're talking about before speaking. Christian democrats are in no way "conservative", as the word has been bastardized and mangled by American politics. They are generally slightly right of center on social issues, but it is not dogmatic. Biden falling a little to the left on social issues of other Christian democrats does not negate his standing. ValarianB (talk) 18:11, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

So, it is "Christian democracy" when one completely disregards Christianity in favor of social liberalism? Comparing him to people like Merkel who hold no actual conservative views is an apt comparison, but still. I guess we are at an impasse given the current limitations of political language. I do think that "progressive" or "social liberal" certainly fit him far better than anything that has the word "Christian" in it, however. 160.253.0.7 (talk) 14:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Biden is a Christian Democrat because he is both Christian and takes part in democracy. Although an overwhelming majority of Christian Democrats support conservative views that does not mean that the whole ideology conforms to that rule. You almost seem to mock whether he is an even a Christian at all, which I find rather distasteful as we are supposed to be, as editors, neutral in our tone and writing. I recommend you don’t let a majority overrun a minority, letting the majority represent the whole population of that certain group. Sindenheim (talk) 05:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

"I did that" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Biden's political position.

How is he a "centrist" or "center-left" given his support for CRT and other far-left cultural positions? 2600:4040:445D:C200:5267:4FEC:9BA:C71E (talk) 21:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

It looks like this characterization is supported by mainstream reliable sources. I don't think that your sources supported your proposed edits.      — Freoh 23:28, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Who are you to decide what sources are and are not "reliable"? Your so-called experts in the mainstream have a history of lying from the China lab growing covid to the conspiracy theory of Iraq having weapons of mass destruction! Btw, you also made an appeal to authority. 160.253.0.7 (talk) 14:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm a Wikipedian trying to follow Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources. Do you have sources that contradict the information in this article?      — Freoh 15:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm saying your so-called "reliable sources" are far from reliable given how they are in the pockets of big business and the neoliberal establishment. 2600:4040:445D:C200:6BAA:AA5E:59CB:4713 (talk) 13:24, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

He is against same sex marriage, has fought against it his whole political career. Also very much a racist and considers many minorities second class people. He wants to keep the whole country in slavery. Dead man walking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.211.36.45 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

He literally supports it, alongside anti-white diversity agenda and has advocated for free trade and open borders. Hardly nationalistic positions. 2600:4040:445D:C200:6BAA:AA5E:59CB:4713 (talk) 13:23, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

If you want to argue that The New York Times is unreliable, then you should read WP:NYT and discuss this at WP:RS/N.  — Freoh 16:18, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

What "general consensus" says NYT is reliable? This is the same paper that lied to us for years about Russia on 2016. 173.79.40.205 (talk) 18:42, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

This page needs to be protected

I don't know much about protected pages, but if there is someone out there that can add protection to this page please do. This page has been receiving high amounts of vandalism recently. Jonah080 (talk) 20:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)