Talk:Pamela Voorhees

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Marilyn Poucher played the ghost of Mrs. Voorhees. By the way, since Higgins did not seem to know who Jason or his mother were, I would posit that that was the ghost of Mrs. Voorhees, not just a dream.

Sadly, not certaint that Barry and Claudette were[edit]

Since the scene in Freddy vs. Jason is part of a dreamscape created by Krueger, it may not exactly resemble the true event. Also, I seriously doubt that if Barry and Claudette had been the negligent counselors in 1957 they would have been around in 1958 at the camp again.

michael:i want to backup the claim about the scene in freddy v. jason since "new line cinema"pepole now owns the rights it will come no suprise that they would decide to change certain details of previous events consider this as retconning

Source?[edit]

I recently added a citation need for Pam's history. The section includes things that are clearly not in the films. Some of this maybe the product of novelisations, spin-off material, or a more (or less) official source like one of the books written about the series (unfortunately I don't own any of those) where there can be a citation easily given either squeezed in the material or as a footnote. I fear, however, that some of this is speculation. If it is widely speculated among fans, it needs to be mentioned; if not then it can be considered original research, and thus needs to be removed. Like the schizophrenia - where in the Hell does that come from? And some of the references seem to jumping to conclusions. As mentioned, that was in the dreamscape, and may be either exagerrated from Jason's perspective, or manipulated by Freddy.--Bacteria 21:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from Bacteria! But, it's just fine as it is. I'm a fan of the F13 series. The part about her schizophrenia is speculation! It is needed to explain her actions in the first film, as any normal mother would get over it or sue the camp than to just go kill them! Plus, if you notice the part where at the end Mrs. Voorhees is normal, then crazy. How else do you explain that than schizophrenia? Split-personality maybe, but schizophrenia seems more "professional"...

Freddy Krueger[edit]

Do you suppose that Freddy Krueger is the real monster behind Pamela's death? 68.228.149.192 (talk) 00:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could be. It also could be that Alice cut her head off with a machete. 65.189.210.173 (talk) 03:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name "Sue"?[edit]

Never heard that before. Is there a source for her middle name being "Sue"? Is that in one of the spin off novels or comics? Should stuuf that's from bboks/comics be included in this article or should it be limited to stuff from the films? Globeclotter (talk) 20:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The tombstone seen in The Final Chapter! Pemer42 (talk) 13:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First name even "Pamela" at all?[edit]

However, personally I never regarded the Pamela Sue Voorhees entombed by that stone to actually be identical with the Mrs Voorhees in the first movie. Since the death year of 1979 screws up the timeline of the franchise, I always hoped a sensible sequel would ultimately decide and make canon that Mrs Voorhees was not called Pamela, and that the assumption by most fans that Pamela Sue Voorhees in that grave is Mrs Voorhees from the first movie would be ultimatley proven wrong.

Not until the ninth movie, Jason Goes to Hell, Mrs Voorhees was ever mentioned by the actual name of Pamela in a movie of the franchise, and the fact that she was in that installment could have been explained as a mistake by Robert Campbell, when he states Jason "was born to Elias and Pamela Voorhees". If Pamela Sue Voorhees was a sister to Elias, Campbell could have been sitting with a genealogical chart of the Voorhees family, and misunderstood it.

In the 2009 reimagining the character is finally very clearly called Pamela Voorhees even in the ending role credits. However, the reimagining is the first entry of a completely new line of movies, and of course Mrs Voorhees could be called Pamela there. In the reimagining, the original events obviously take place in 1980 and the assumed drowning of Jason has obviously taken place some time earlier the same year (since we see a kid Jason coming up to his mother's corpse immediately after her being killed), so it IS a completely new setting, in which Jason could be assumed to have been born in 1969 as opposed to 1946 in the first set of movies, and his mother may very well have another first name in this setting. It does not set canon for the original eleven movies, thus it IS never clearly stated Mrs Voorhees WAS called Pamela in the original eleven movies. Only at one point, which could be better explained as a mistake! Pemer42 (talk) 13:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional Films[edit]

Pamela-Sue Voorheis appears in Infinite Jest's films Wave Bye-Bye to the Bureaucrat, and Immanent Domain, both directed by James Incandenza, but these are fictional films so I'm not sure whether they should be added to the list of films she appears in. QuentinUK (talk) 17:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]