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Cascada

Ok. |`ll verify again Cascada and correct the errors you`ve found. If you are kind | need some info wheather audio files can indeed be used in the citation template. |`d like to avoid audio files for good. Special+Utilizator+$ (talk) 01:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

You may want to know | only reverted once to make a modification for the spelling of the name, since the audio file in the refference isnot solid proof.

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If you are kind | want to improve my english but cuntinue to make small errors, including typeing. What it the method you say | may use in respect to wiki`s policy to no editting ?Special+Utilizator+$ (talk) 00:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)Paul

Gavin

I've suggested mentorship on the RFC/U and I would think that best (particularly, as you say, one that is generally on his side of Inc/Del philosophy) over any enforced requirement; however, I am now a bit more concerned about this copyvio concerns, and that may need to pan out first. --MASEM (t) 16:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

The copyright issue is related to how to correctly attribute content (particularly detailed content) to its source. This seems to me far less straight forward task that I imagined, so I accept Kww offer of mentorship, if it is still open. In particular, I would be gratefu if he would assist with the article Profession, which was one of the first articles I ever contributed, but is a microcosm of content issues, particularly lists.--Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 16:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Here. Regards. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 05:10, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

• And some more. Regards. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 10:14, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Help

I know my actions arnt any better, but User:Bdell555 wont listen. Ive tried discussing with him but he keeps reverting a crappy old version of U Smile. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 20:59, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Beyonce

I know, but if you put a "ref name" in the singlecharts, they'll work. --Ahmetyal 14:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Histomerge required

Hi Kww, Today Ending-start (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) copied [1] to create the article Strip Me (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Its almost exactly identical. *sighs* Could you histomerge my sandbox with the article? ... now that the article exists (if it was my choice I wouldn't have created it...) it might as well have a proper article history. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 19:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks. But one question... licensing issues by copy and paste? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 19:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

He has done it again.... this time he's opened the page and then under the pretence of "writing and expanding the article" he's directly copied at least one of the sections I had written in my sandbox as well as a lot of the second section and the infobox. :S -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 14:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

RE: Unexplained reversions for Issues (Escape The Fate song)

The song appears to have Charted now, and as such the article has been put back up.--Raktoner (talk) 22:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

RE: Come on now

I saw that it wasn't appearing on Chartstats, but I had forgotten that TOCC didn't archive past 40. Well this is a major disadvantage of singlechart, in that R&R charted, but there is no source that the template can use for it. Candyo32 22:36, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

My initial idea to begin with was to manually place that link or acharts until it was on chartstats, but then I thought about the archive chart, but forgot it was only 1-40. Candyo32 22:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to comment: Formatting changes to WP:DISCOGSTYLE.

Hi, Kevin. I don't know how much you know or care about this, but I haven't seen you weigh in, and I always value your input. If you can find the time and interest, please pop in here and leave a comment.

Quick summary: Over at the Talk page for WP:WikiProject Discographies/style, there's been quite a bit of (at times tedious and technical) discussion about the formatting of discographies. Although WikiProject Discographies/style hopes to be part of the Manual of Style some day, it does not, currently, conform to WP:ACCESS, itself a part of the MoS. This is a problem because articles which conform to the WikiProject Discographies/style ought not be acceptable for promotion to FA or FL status, since they don't conform to the MoS.

After much discussion at Accessibility issues, followed by what was meant to be a conclusion at Time to update, we would be ready to actively address the problem, with discographies eventually being reformatted to appear as currently shown here (already changed from its earlier form). Column order and formatting would be noticeably changed, chart headings would typically be bigger, a few other differences in the coding would be made.

The only hold-up (as far as we know) is lack of wider consensus; I think too few people have participated and I'd like to see more editors register their opinion (be it support or criticism) before we move ahead with a rather significant change. (At the very least, you may consider this fair warning.) Your comment is welcome at Are we ready to apply this updated guideline?. Thanks. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:16, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your work with Gavin

		The Guidance Barnstar
		He's a tough case with great upside potential. Your mentoring is appreciated. Mike Cline (talk) 00:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Brexx?

I haven't dealt with a Brexx sock in a while, so I'm a little rusty. You may want to give Onlygirlintheworld (talk · contribs) a look, as the dots have returned... — ξ^xplicit 01:13, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep. He's been pretty low profile for a while, but he's popped up twice lately.—Kww(talk) 02:24, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

turkeybacon76

Hi Kww, I am new to creating articles in wikipedia and was going back and forth with mine and my spouse's username on the same computer, not realizing that it mattered. Will not do this anymore and have learned through the experience what best practices are. Can you unblock so I can rejoin the community? Please let me know if there is a better place to respond, since I am new to investigations too.Turkeybacon76 (talk) 18:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I seem to still be blocked. Can you unblock me? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Turkeybacon76 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: Discog

I'm not aware of any such guideline/policy that says we can, nor am I aware of any such one that says we cannot. And I edit using RefTools: not sure if you're familiar with this but if you hover over the fetch title icon when citing a web source, it actually states: "Irrelevant parts often have to be removed manually afterwards." Not sure why a Wikipedia gadget would contain any guideline violations, but again, if there are guidelines saying we have to include irrelevant parts of ref titles such as "(((( allmusic ))) >", please, do let me know. –Chase (talk) 21:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Because, the title of, say, this (one of the refs you changed) is "Lady Gaga > Biography", not "allmusic ((( Lady Gaga > Biography )))". The other stuff is there for identification in case one were to be operating other tabs within a browser. Not that I'm condoning citing Wikipedia as a source, but if we were to cite say, your talk page, we would cite "User talk:Kww" as the title, not "User talk:Kww - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia", no?

And also, I'm not saying to alter English variations, punctuation, etc. But when the website name is not in the actual title of the webpage we're citing, it's basically an irrelevant thing to keep seeing as we cite the name of the publication shortly after. –Chase (talk) 21:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

That sounds about right. I have noticed Legolas' tendency to replace the dashes in web titles, which I do not think is appropriate, but I have never seen it as an issue that warranted a revert, as that would likely spark an edit war over something silly. –Chase (talk) 21:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Numericals

Good idea to initiate it in WT:CHARTS as many of the FAs and GAs will be impacted by this discussion I believe. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:02, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Should

You might like to reconsider your RFC comment. First of all, you seem to misunderstand the operating definition of "should". "Should" does not mean "must". "Should be based on" is not the same as "must always be based on".

Furthermore, even if the policy said "articles must always be based on third-party sources", it doesn't say anything at all about primary sources. Thousands of third parties write primary sources every day. Have you ever been in a traffic accident? The police report for the accident is a primary source written by a third party. To learn more about the distinction, you might like to read WP:Party and person (one of Wikipedia's newest essays). WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

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Mario's back

See User talk:Mocco Tocco. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 01:53, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

He's on a roll. See User:Mario's Last Year. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 22:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

"Actual chart name" in Singlechart docs

So I'm sitting here looking at the documentation for Template:Singlechart and I'm saying to myself, John, there's something wrong with that "Actual chart name" column. I mean, it looks like it's got more providers than chart names. Then I says, John, why not ask Kevin what he wants to have here, since he's probably the one who produced that whole table in the first place.

But I've had enough of talking to myself; what do you think? Shall I revise this to show the chart names in the upper table just like we do already for the Billboard table below? Or should I just change the column heading on the upper table ("Provider" or "Chart publisher") and go have me a beer? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 18:17, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I never noticed a response from you on this so I thought I'd give you another poke. What should be in the Actual chart name column for non-Billboard charts? Tks clu — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

You've had discussions with this person

I am debating whether this is a case of sockpuppetry, although it may be a "forgotten password" scenario. There are several months in between the last edit of User:J7y and today's new User:JY4ever. I left a message on JY4ever's talk page. Just thought you may also want to keep an eye on this, in case you are aware of other accounts that I haven't found. - eo (talk) 18:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Help pls?

If you're there? I don't want a 3RR over this, I have asked User:MatthewGoodfan101 to please gain consensus at Linkin Park discography before switching out one of the countries (he wants CAN added, JPN removed), and after some back and forth, he went ahead and just did it anyway and he is going to continue to do so. Please see here and step in, if you can? I just want the dude to slow down and get a consensus. The article has been just fine with no issues for quite a while. If you think what he is doing is fine, then just ignore this. Thanks in advance. - eo (talk) 19:32, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

RE:Burining Idiot

First of all, I called no one a "burning idiot," which makes no sense literally or figuratively. I said I have a burning dislike for idiots. Second of all, I did not check the edit history and just saw the image was up for deletion, so I thought the user who removed it was an IP, surely if it were you I would have contacted you on your talk page about the removal beforehand. Second of all I know this is so totally WP:OTHERSTUFF but doublecaps do not seem to be a problem. I developed them from seeing them used on other GA's and I believe I even saw it in an FA one time, and it seemed to be no problem. I know the image needs to be reduced, but correct me if I'm wrong, I thought NFC images were acceptable as long as they were under 300x300. Candyo32 19:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Well is there a policy that says they aren't to be used? Like I said before, this is WP:OTHERSTUFF, but several GA's use doublecaps, and if there isn't a established consensus it seems that it could possibly be silent. Candyo32 23:18, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Critics noted Aguilera's different style changes in the video, and critiqued similarities to the looks of other artists. The lookalikes scene is one of the most notable scenes in the video, compared to a Gaga dance scene in "Bad Romance," and the second cap has Aguilera's look compared to Beyonce and Bettie Page, among others. Candyo32 23:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

If you insist on removing it, I prefer it be taken there. Candyo32 23:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Could I possibly borrow you for a few minutes?

hey Kev, How are you? I don't suppose you've got a few minutes to spare, to histomerge User:Lil-unique1/Sandbox/5 with Scream (Kelis song)? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 00:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure it is premature. There is quite detailed information about the internal workings of the song and it is only 1 week away from UK release. It is equally as notable as Promise This as its video has also been released I'm just waiting to write a full synopsis for it. There's also the official single cover to add so I don't think its that premature. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 16:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Its Ok i'll wait. There's no rush I guess... it should chart in the next week or so. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Can we revisit this now its charted? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 23:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Metallica's Black Album

Hello,i've noticed you're updating the best selling albums topic so i have a favor to ask.

I've posted 9 links from various different websites including BBC,none of which is a fan-connected in any way,every link is about as reliable as it gets.Please post the album on the list.Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kargetina (talk • contribs) 06:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Billboard Japan charts

Please do not remove the Billboard Japan charts from "XXXO," they are valid and pass WP:GOODCHARTS. billboard-japan.com is, belive it or not, the official Billboard Japan website. Thanks. --Prosperosity (talk) 08:41, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy 10/10/10

Double Ten Day is, really, unrelated—but we don't appear to have a cool pic for this one

I suppose I should've timed this message at 10:10:10 too, but frankly, I can't be arsed. You know how it is.

Did you know... that tenten in Japaense writing are a little wiggly thing, a bit like a quotation-mark, which makes e.g. "ka" (か) into "ga" (が) or "fu" (ふ) into "bu" (ぶ) ?

So, take time out to have a bit of a giggle.

All the best, and 10-10 'till we do it again.  Chzz  ►  08:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Magical thinking

How is a manual ref pointing to a page that covers only 1 to 40 better than a template-generated ref pointing to the same page for supporting a peak of 61? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 06:27, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah, no, I hadn't noticed that, thanks. It's important, too, because I believe I just reverted some edit in the last six hours where somebody had claimed a song was at 62 or so in the UK, and neither Chart Stats nor the OCC page I looked at showed that peak. I guess I need to go look for that one. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 06:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Double Image

You recently deleted the image screen cap for Not Myself Tonight and your logic for deletion was "What significant information does your double image convey that a single would not". Although i agree with the deletion of the image in this case, i do not agree with deleted/removing double images. Your comment implies that double images fail 3b, well, this is biased as different images are different matters. (This is a friendly discussion and this is a WP:OTHERSTUFF arguement but id like to discuss this). Take a look at Take_It_Off_(song)#Version_One, now you can see there are two images, again, your logic was "What significant information does your double image convey that a single would not", well this is you answer; with a single image, it would not show you what another planet looked like, and how someones "unzips themself". Both images pass NFCC as they both significantly increase your knowledge and are not used excessively. Would you agree? ..... Now, another example of using a double image is to represent comparisons, like the one in Party_in_the_U.S.A.#Music_video. With only a single image, it would not make sense on how they were similar in inspiration. Please share you thoughts here, and i will talk to you soon :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 19:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Latin charts request

Hello Kww! I read that you worked on the single charts template and I have a request. Could you please include the Latin Tropical Airplay and Latin Regional Mexican Airplay into the template? And for the former, could you add a note stating that Tropical songs listed prior to August 2009 are not available on the website? Magiciandude (talk) 20:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Sure. Regional Mexican Songs: Me Gusta Todo de Tí (song), Ando Bien Pedo/Tropical Songs: Dile al Amor, Bachata en Fukuoka. Magiciandude (talk) 23:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. By the way, I added a note regarding Tropical Songs since the Billboard site is messed up for it. For some odd reason, it'll show Tropical albums that have charted instead. Magiciandude (talk) 22:06, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely. If you go back "one week" on the week of August 1, 2009, it will take you to the week of August 2, 2003, where albums are shown instead for the charts. Similarly, the Tropical Albums won't go any further back than the week of July 12, 2003. I've reported this error to the Billboard staff several times and never got a word back. Of course, the Tropical Airplay charts can be still seen on Allmusic and the weeks can be found on the Billboard magazines in Google Books. There's also the option of Billboard.biz, but I doubt anyone would want to pay $25+ a month just for positions on charts. Magiciandude (talk) 22:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, those would be songs listed. Magiciandude (talk) 23:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Related to sock puppet investigation?

Hello, do you think this request [2] is related to the sock puppet investigation you mention [3]? Active Banana (^bananaphone 20:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Merge

Can you please merge Cannibal (Kesha EP) + history into Cannibal (EP) please and thank you? :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 04:00, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Two problems. First, Cannibal (EP) is a redlink, so I can't merge to it. If you mean rename, you can do that yourself. The second problem is that Cannibal (Kesha EP) looks like a WP:CRYSTAL violation: in its current state, it fails WP:HAMMER.—Kww(talk) 04:11, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes i mean rename, sorry. And its doesnt seem like crystal, its been confirmed, is available for pre order, name confirmed, single is out tomorrow, passes WP:HAMMER as title is out, and passes WP:NALBUM :) If you could rename that would be awesome - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 04:15, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help but i guess im blind and didnt notice there was a "Move" button and i could do it myself, whoops. Thanks anyways, have a good day/night. :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 04:20, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Carey

I know I'm a little out of date, but I forgot about the discussion and needed to voice my final opinion. Please comment HERE Jayy008 (talk) 16:08, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Whisper

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whisper

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Brexx

[4] is likely Brexx, see Talk:Lindsay Lohan#Underground Comedy Movie. Cheers, Siawase (talk) 00:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Extra singlechart category?

Hi, Kevin. It looks like this fellow has a good point: Category:Singlechart usages for Billboard Pop Songs seems to be extraneous. If it is, we'd need to find some admin to delete it for us... — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 09:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Russian Resurrection

We semi-recently added the Russian Airplay Chart from Tophit.ru to WP:BADCHARTS, following the discussion here. Now I have just seen a link added to an article pointing to a brand-new Russian Music Charts article. Probably not a problem there, except for the total lack of references, since we seem to like the Russia Top 25 Albums chart published by 2M. But the article also talks about the Tophit-published Airplay chart, and provides a External link to Tophit.ru. Do you think this is okay (except maybe the lack of refs)? I ask, I guess, because so many listings on BADCHARTS mention a given article being deleted, so it seems like maybe this would be going the other way.

The user behind this is named Russiacharts, so maybe there's a promotional agenda that's even more of a problem than a questionable EL. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: Notes

I figured the TFM and "Alejandro"/"DITD" notes weren't that important, and there's not much of a point in even mentioning the BU peaks if consensus decided they mean nothing. –Chase (talk) 00:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, if the chart doesn't represent #101-125 as was noted, does it even have any significance here? –Chase (talk) 00:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Gurls watching

I don't know for sure whether you're watching California Gurls, but in case you aren't, there's an edit request there that I think is right up your alley, one way or another. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:05, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Teamoteamo

No clue as to prior accounts for this user. Just noticed his edits while spotchecking my watchlist. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 21:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia being used for commericial purposes?

Hey Kev,

I just found this on Barnesandnoble.com. Its a listing for a published book about US recording artist Nicole Scherzinger. The cover says "High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles!" And then the synopsis reads almost exactly like the first few paragraphs of our article on Nicole Scherzinger, of which I am one of lots of contributors to. Surely this is a copyright violation and goes against wikipedia terms of use or something? Surely the publishers of the book are exploiting those who have written the articles related to Nicole? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 22:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, considering how much time I spend reverting vandals and nitwits, the line "High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles!" makes me laugh quite audibly. Not to mention that it ought to be "authors" rather than "articles". However, I'd readily believe our license lets anybody do this, as long as they tell where they got it. That big sticker on the front probably at least partially fulfills the requirement for permitted re-use, although I don't see non-electronic use discussed when I quickly skim through the Terms of Use. Kevin or some lawyer type is bound to know more. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:45, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

And then again, geez: $53.10 for a damn book from Wikipedia about one woman? And it's Nicole Scherzinger?!? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

True say. I thought i'd check cus it sounded iffy. Yes its quite ludacris... a 132 page book on Scherzinger based on wikipedia articles... could you not just read wikipedia for free? Its actually funny because to my recollection none of the Scherzinger or Scherzinger-related articles are GA/FA so high quality???? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 23:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Greek albums chart

Can you work on support for the Greek Albums Chart for {{singlechart}}? It is on Hung Median. Just this month IFPI Greece started doing a combined domestic and foreign chart: Top 75 Combined Repertoire. It is now the only chart produced by IFPI Greece. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 00:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Lol. I didn't even realize that one was albums and the other singles! It's been a long day... Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 00:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Meanwhile...

What do you think about an editor whose first (and so far only) edit just so happens to be an overhaul of Ciara discography to the newly implemented layout, complete with an edit summary noting WP:DISCOG [5]? User:CiaraFan4Ever or User:TrEeMaNsHoE? Forgive my lack of good faith assumption at the moment. Am I assuming too much? - eo (talk) 20:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth, this also caught my attention. I thought it was pretty fishy that the account was registered and edited the day after semi-protection for the discography expired. That said, I don't think there's enough evidence to tell if it's a sock behind that account. — ξ^xplicit 21:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Help me to move

Hello, since you are an admin, please help me to move article The Confessions Tour (album) to The Confessions Tour, which is currently redirected to the former. Per WP:ALBUM, use the simplest title if its available, Thank you Bluesatellite (talk) 05:12, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

DrV help

Kww, could you look at [[6]]? I don't know if the chart in question meets our inclusion criteria. I'm guessing it doesn't but I'm failing at figuring out GOODCHARTS for this. Thanks. Hobit (talk) 08:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Hobit (talk) 00:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Archiving Billboard positions

Hi there! I just have a question I was told you may be able to help me with. I recently asked John a question about archiving archiving pages from Billboard sites, or otherwise correctly referencing them. Take a look at the conversation there; in short, I am trying to reference the Glee Cast's peak of "Le Jazz Hot!" this week at number ninety-four on the Hot 100, and am unable to do so. I was hoping you could help in any way. Thanks so much in advance! Yves (talk) 20:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I thought so. Thank you so much, then! Yves (talk) 07:01, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

RE: Playing with fire

Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I thought it would work. It was the problem with the category, but thanks for fixing it! Ninjinian (talk) 12:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

LadyGaGasBiggestFan

I don't think any of the contribution by LadyGaGasBiggestFan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) are valid. Do you agree?—Kww(talk) 21:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 21:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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Gavin.collins

Thanks for agreeing to take on Gavin.collins as a mentee. Three weeks ago you tried to explain to him there's nothing wrong with his viewpoint, but there's a problem with the tactics he takes to argue it. I appreciate you trying. But within the past few days there has been an "incident" with Gavin suggesting that you have not gotten through to him

Leading up to this incident... About one week ago, I initiated an effort to summarize the list RFC on issues where there is consensus (which necessarily means that the principles are at a more general level, punting on some more controversial issues.) I quoted directly from the RFC as much as possible and worked with other participants until the summary was accurate. After one week, I made a request to an uninvolved admin to check to see if the summary was accurate, correct it if necessary, and close the discussion.

The incident began when Gavin accused me of operating in bad faith. I turned the other cheek, but he was admonished by the most respected of Wikipedians. He then went to the RFC to argue his point again, rather than trying to look for areas of agreement. When he did not gain any support for his viewpoint, he tried once again to accuse me of operating in bad faith to push my own point of view. I turned the other cheek again, because I knew others in the RFC would disagree with Gavin's characterization of me. However, a few editors have been less forgiving. At various talk pages, people are telling Gavin to tread carefully or else.

I'm not contacting you as an administrator or anything like that. Perhaps someone else might go to an administrator over Gavin's behavior, but in my opinion it would be with too much zeal too soon. I'm just looking to you as a mentor who might be able to reach Gavin and explain to him again why there is a community consensus that he is in the wrong. I hope you will be able to prevent Gavin from flaming out as some kind of self-professed martyr for his ideals. I worry that's where he is headed if someone does not get through to him. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:11, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

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Request for input

Hi. I would appreciate your input on http://admintools.wikia.com/wiki/Admin_Tools_Wiki:Requests_for_rights/Heymid - thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 14:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Question.

Is this Polish chart Allowed? http://zpav.pl/rankingi/listy/nielsen/top5.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by GangWolvega (talk • contribs) 19:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will add it when the permanent like is arrived. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GangWolvega (talk • contribs) 23:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Pick one

This person: [7]. TrEeMaNsHoE, CiaraFan4Ever or Brexx? - eo (talk) 18:42, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Quack, that's TrEeMaNsHoE. I've blocked the account as well as 68.79.102.117 (talk), which is within his regular IP range. — ξ^xplicit 18:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Led Zeppelin IV

Please stop editing this content out. There is nothing blatantly false about it. I am well aware that "When the Levee Breaks" was a song written by Memphis Minnie long before Led Zeppelin covered it. In terms of when Led Zeppelin recorded it, in 1971, it along with "Going to California" are part of a thematic reference to "The Grapes of Wrath". Have you ever read "The Grapes of Wrath"?Hoops gza (talk) 23:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

There are citation needed marks, and that's good enough for now.Hoops gza (talk) 23:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

TADROS

This page was previosuly deleted for not being notable. the claimed chartings are false. some other individual is removing the deletion tag. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadros_(duo) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.83.99.242 (talk) 17:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Mario96

I'll have to reactivate an e-mail account, but I'll get to you the moment I have one. I was getting seriously harassed a few months ago and I had to disable it. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

This was entirely my fault. I clicked the wrong link on my watchlist and unfortunately that link turned out to be the rollback link. I have of course reverted my foolish mistake. Vyvyan Basterd (talk) 14:23, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Lifestyle

Hey, I have a question for you. I want to create a sandbox article for the Nelly Furtado album, Lifestyle because I know it is not notable yet but it has been talked about a lot by Furtado and there is information I found from reliable sources to go by until it is considered notable. Can I create one? And if so, how do I do that? Thanks, Garry says OK (talk) 11:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Return

• Sir John Campbell, of Airds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Richard Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe (AfD discussion)

The contributions intersection tool, and edit histories of articles like the above, are making me suspect that LoveActresses (talk · contribs) is G.-M. Cupertino (talk · contribs). I also have a nasty but not yet well founded enough suspicion, based upon the edit histories of a couple of other articles, that it's not the only active account, again. Uncle G (talk) 12:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

MOS:BIO issue

Hello to you Kww. As you are an admin that is aware of procedures, do you think you can settle an issue? Recently, you made this edit, and the summary speaks for itself. Over the last few days, I have engaged in something of an edit war on the Xherdan Shaqiri page with an editor called User:IllusionFinal. At this moment, the article stands as he last left it (concerning ethnicity in intro). I refer to the page including this information. If indeed there is something different here from Hakan Yakin then give me a brief explanation if you would, otherwise I would be most grateful if you intervened here. Please also watch this user regarding his uncivil edit summaries that include personal attacks; I have warned him, and he has done it twice to date, but was only warned once. With this, no warning is required but it requires an admin to keep an eye on him incase he flouts this caution and continues to curse in summaries. Thanks Kww. Evlekis (Евлекис) 12:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Sock issue

All right, it is more of an internal instinct than anything else, and I apologise if my suspicion is otherwise unfounded. User:Sinbad Barron, although not the first user in his catalogue of socks, has been deemed by the admins to be the puppet master. His confirmed socks edited disruptviely on a wide range of subjects but mostly all seemed to take an interest in the Balkans, pushing Albanian bias and demonstrating Serbophobia. But some have done this very loosely. The first similarity directly involving Sinbad Barron is the use of such language as "fuck off" in edit summaries, this is rare language usage from any editor. Then there is the claim that he is not Albanian, but Canadian, a speaker of French and Italian, but since his first edits in February this year, most have been on Albanian-related matters. If you examine his complete list of edits to date, you'll notice the first few months of sporadic editing is all based on showbusiness topics, then from July 16 this year, the account holder has become an overnight enthusiast on Balkan matters, and all edits have discredited Serbia(ns) - key rival to Albanians for most issues - and promoted Albanian interest. Then you had users as User:Metrospex who also bounced backward and forward from Balkans affairs to English language showbusiness as you can see from his list. But worst of all, almost all of these users seem to appear wherever I or User:WhiteWriter are taking an interest, and they seem to stand against us not that WhiteWriter and I are part of any bloc. It is a curious point that IllusionFinal has never returned to his showbusiness topics since starting on Balkan affairs but the biggest giveaway that this is neither a new nor a genuine user is the fact that he has not even made 100 contributions since his inception in February, and many of the Sinbad accounts have lain inactive for periods of time until the person felt the time was right to start using the account. I'd be shocked if Sinbad Barron, User:Lontech and IllusionFinal were THREE real-life people, it would be absurd. Lontech has received a topic-ban and I have personally suspected him to be Sinbad Barron but it hasn't carried any weight. So I'm sorry if I have raised a false alarm here on any issue, but one way or another, IllusionFinal is a certain case for disciplinary in one field or another. Thanks Kww. Evlekis (Евлекис) 14:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I do confess however that the Xherdan Shaqiri issue of ethnicity is in the second paragraph and not the intro; that was my mistake, it had originally been in the intro and I made the mistake of removing its restoration without seeing where it was. To that end, I will not touch the article as it currently stands. I personally favour such usage and am not opposed to it despite I.F's rants that I "swear" at Albanians, that is not true. Evlekis (Евлекис) 14:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Wow, you're good

That's twice now you've sniffed out and blocked sockpuppets that were upping my levels of wikistress significantly. Both times it was like having a conversation with a brick wall. Trying to stem the tide of LoveActresses bad edits was like trying to stop an avalanche with my bare hands. So, thank you for your vigilance. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

P.S. And kudos to Uncle G as well :) --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:04, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

G.-M._Cupertino

Re Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/G.-M._Cupertino/Archive

Had a look at the two pages mentioned in the last investigation and on the second one

these edits by 85.177.165.196 are a duck for the same editor (it is the references that are a give away as well as the articles). I am just not sure how to add in the IP address for the investigation. -- PBS (talk) 01:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Singlechart

I come to you with this question as I believe you are the Singlechart guru. Could the Christian and Gospel Songs get a temp too? Candyo32 23:54, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Well the example I was going to use "Happy", the charting on the US Gospel has disappeared off Billboard, and that was the main reason why I asked. But other examples would be "God in Me" by Mary Mary for the Gospel, and "Live Like We're Dying" by Kris Allen for the Christian. Also this is a different topic, but I've always wondered about albums and the singlechart template. Is there a possibility for that? Candyo32 00:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks alot!! Candyo32 01:51, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for this. Sadly not an uncommon problem (see my talk), especially on Song articles. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 20:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Wrong

Please read Wikipedia:When to cite, not everything needs a reference, we don't need a reference that says Paris is the capital of France. And no, music sellers don't have all the different formats that were released all over the world, cds, cassettes, vynils, minidiscs, digipaks, specially for singles of the 90s and back. And it is redundant, I wouldn't put the movie itself as a reference for the plot, or the cd itself as a reference for the song lenght. Frcm1988 (talk) 20:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Here is an example, I personally own like 15 or 16 different versions of "Goodbye" and you can probably found a source for the 2 different British versions and maybe the American, Australian and European, but I own versions form Israel, Brazil, Argentina, Singapore, Taiwan, Korea and Thailand, and I am 100% sure that you wouldn't find their track listing, length, catalogue numbers, or where was the cd printed in a source other than fansites, which are not acceptable here, and these are not fake or bootlegs or anything similar, all were officially released back then. But there are no valid sources that state this, so what should I do here? Does it means that these releases dosen't exist because there is no source? Frcm1988 (talk) 21:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

No we don't need a source for that; because it isn't a quotation, not an exceptional claim, not a contentious statement about living people, not an opinion, data and statistics, or a statement based on someone's scientific work, it isn't a counter-intuitive or controversial statement that is likely to be challenged, how many people actually vandalize these sections? And also: "If the subject of the article is a book or film or other artistic work, it is unnecessary to cite a source in describing events or other details. It should be obvious to potential readers that the subject of the article is the source of the information." Frcm1988 (talk) 22:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Well that is fairly easy to do, adding Template:Cite music release notes, but I do believe that it would be really unnecessary to add that much extra coding to the page for every single release, not to mention that almost every source will be duplicated except for the catalogue numbers. All of this considering, that the same user is the one that challenged the credits for a Lady Gaga's song, and now we are supposed to add a source that says that "Bad Romance" is sung by her. Frcm1988 (talk) 23:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Kelly Rowland stuff....

I don't really know what to do with it to be honest. The last known confirmed name for the album was Kelly Rowland. However she's since said in several interviews that she is considering re-naming the album. It is problematic because the album page Kelly Rowland (album) has lots of notable information - more than more albums which are released yet how can you name an article for an album which might change its title. I know for sure (cus I heard the broadcast) that she told a New York radio station that the album's working title is Kelly Rowland and if another name is found to be more appropriate it will replace the eponymous title. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 01:11, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Can we move the page to Untitled Third Album (Kelly Rowland album) then? That way the singles can still be attributed to the album they're from? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 00:44, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Source

I have found a reference:

http://www.rnbmusicblog.com/kelly-rowland-new-album-pushed-back-cd-title-changed/14564/

This clearly states Rowland dropped two big news in the last 48 hours: 1-She will no longer be calling her CD Kelly Rowland, instead she wants you to submit few titles to her by visiting http://www.kellyrowland.com/albumname/ and she will select one.

I'm pretty new at wiki so I havent figured out how to add this reference yet to the pages. General Bozz (talk) 02:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Hey Kevin, longtime no see since probably you know that Im on a long break. I'm a little out of touch but is there any way to source the Spanish certifications for songs and albums? The promusicae.es PDF links always turns up dead after a few weeks, hence wondering if there is any permanent link for them. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:59, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Ya i did check that, but sometimes even those links turn up dead after a few weeks. :( Also is there anyway to permalink the Greek albums? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I will post you soon with the links from the "Bad Romance" article. In the meantime, I know about that Hung Medien Greekcharts link that you posted, I was asking about the IFPI.gr links. Actually the Hung Medien links donot show the certifications for the Greek albums, that is only shown in the ifpi links, kinda like promusicae. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:57, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Is there any way to retrieve the past week's charts from the website itself like RIANZ and Sverritoplistan? And can you tell me how do you archive the links with webarchive? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:25, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Kev. A small help, like the move you did for The Confessions Tour album, can you move Drowned World Tour 2001 (video) to simply Drowned World Tour 2001? The word video seems unnecessary as titles should be as simple as possible and there's nothing called Drowned World Tour 2001. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

BRANDY NORWOOD

A USER Noboyo is repeatly removing well sourced info on her personal life (car accident, breach law suit).

can u revert this user changes and suspend their account? seems to be a hack. might also benefit locking the brandy account after. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.191.29 (talk) 07:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I’m actually pretty shocked to read that this unsigned user calls me a „hacker.“ I’ve been a frequent contributer to the Brandy Norwood article ever since its creation – and it was not my intention to delete material. I rather thought this was unessential to her biography. – Noboyo

I trimmed it back rather than deleting it. Based on history, I suspect the IP is Marc Mysterio or someone related to him. He's a fairly minor Canadian act that tries to use Wikipedia as a promotional vehicle.—Kww(talk) 13:56, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Audio samples usage

Could you address the excessive use of audio samples in this article Butterfly (Mariah Carey album)? In past experience, I have been told to be weary of using too many audio samples in an article, and If I'm not mistaken, I believe six may be a bit too much for one article, and I know certain legal concerns could come up from overuse of non-free content. Candyo32 17:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Quick question

Hey Kevin :) I got a quick question. Do you know any editors that are interested in fixing or are familiar with the band Journey?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 00:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

TADROS (DUO)

ive made an edit. thats just deleting the whole txt ofthearticle. there is nothing noteworthy in here...

ive been in a band for 7 or 8 years too and we made albums in our apartment too. shit, lets create a wiki,

come on! your lack of reaction in deleting this page jeopardizes the intergrity of this site

Sonny with a Chance (season 1)

Yes, I know Wikipedia is all about references, but in terms of past episode title information, references are not necessary. Only for future episode info. Why did User:Tubesurfer only ref those two episodes and not all of episodes in that season, also considering those episodes aired a year ago. You and I know that was a pretty loony edit on his/her part. QuasyBoy 17:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, Whatever. QuasyBoy 18:06, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:Infobox musician awards

Hey Kevin, I wanna know something. In the above template, I wanna have it as a collapsible thing. Can you help me with that? The length of the template is so long that it makes all the tables along side it, constrict towards one side, unless you are using a wide screened monitor. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:11, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

What do you think?

Already undoing edits and such, looks like the usual subject matter... too soon to tell? User:ItHysteria = User:Wykonawcy? You've dealt with this person far more than I have. - eo (talk) 17:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

User Welovelovato still vandalizing.

Hello,
I see on that editor's Talk that you have warned them in the past. They are still engaging in page vandalism by removing sourced charts at Falling Down (Selena Gomez & the Scene song) and A Year Without Rain (song).—Iknow23 (talk) 09:21, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Songwriters site

Hi, I recall you once before posting a link on your talk page to a website where you could lookup most official writers of songs. Can you recall what the site is? Been checking back through your talk history, but as yet unable to find it. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 20:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Seems to be http://www.bmi.com/search/?link=navbar. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 21:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Or the ASCAP. allmusic also may have that information. Yves (talk) 21:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thumbs up. Thank you. Which of those are considered reliable sources by the Wikipedia community? Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 21:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome! Unless I'm mistaken, both BMI and the ASCAP are, as they are official established performance rights organizations. allmusic is also a reliable source, used in many reliable sources and accepted in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (record charts). Yves (talk) 21:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Although one thing I've noticed, actually, is inconsistency between these sources, as well as with album booklet listings. I don't know what to do in a situation like that. :S Yves (talk) 21:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll just reply here to this whole discussion. BMI and ASCAP are authorative: they show the official credit list, and dictate who actually gets paid based on authorship. That said, they register multiple versions of the same song, and that can get confusing. Whenever you see the sites in disagreement, the root cause is that multiple songs with the same title have been registered. Sometimes they are completely different songs, sometimes it is a change so subtle that someone would have to point out the difference before anyone would notice it. They are always preferable to using the credits provided on the CD: those are influenced by marketing considerations, and the credits sometimes are changed after printing due to legal action.—Kww(talk) 21:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I was a bit taken back by the Conditions and Restrictions Regarding use of the BMI Repertoire, which in part say "BMI makes no warranties or representations whatsoever with respect to its accuracy". Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 22:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Lawyers are pesky things. That basically comes down to the same as WP:RS: a source can be reliable without being perfect.—Kww(talk) 23:01, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for clarifying. A wonderful resource. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 23:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Green Goblin

Hi, Kww. I noted your comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional history of Green Goblin‎. There's an automatic statistics-keeper on that page (you can see it at the top, below the beige box with the bird), which keeps track of of the terms "Keep," "Delete", "Merge" and "Redirect" in boldface at the start of a line, as several of the posts show. AfDs are not done by raw votes, but if you would still like the stat-keeper to tabulate your view, the aforementioned method and terminology would facilitate that. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 23:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your reminding

Thank you for your reminding of WP:BADCHARTS for Breaking News. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parabola1999 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Hey :), you were present during the Mariah Carey discussion on the matter, so I'd like for you to be part of the Whitney Houston version here. Thanks!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 05:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Sock

Another sockpuppet of User:Jerome0012 is on the loose - User:Jrs012, also editing Selena Gomez-related articles. Candyo32 15:40, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

This one is also exhibiting same behavior -- User:TheNoOneBoy Candyo32 16:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

I want to personally thank you for lifting the block on my main account. From now on, I promise to only make edits on my TVFAN24 account. I am so glad because I love to make necessary edits on various pages as you can see. Thanks again for your time and effort in this situation. :) TVFAN24 (talk) 21:28, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Quick question II

Do you know how to decipher this? Yves (talk) 09:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That's supposed to be an XML file, but if you're using Firefox to view it, as I am, you won't see any of the structure, only the data. Though it pains me considerably to say it, you'll do better if you view that resource with (gag) Internet Explorer. I cannot fathom why Firefox strips the structure out of XML files; it's a good browser otherwise.

The first part of that file looks something like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?> 
<searchResults firstPosition="1" totalReturned="3" totalRecords="3">
 <chartItem id="10434406" rank="16" exrank="0">
  <chart id="3115448">
   <name>Hot Videoclip Tracks</name> 
   <issueDate>2009-12-19</issueDate> 
   <specId>405</specId> 
   <specType>Singles</specType> 
  </chart>
  <artist>Rihanna</artist> 
  <writer /> 
  <song>Wait Your Turn</song> 
  <producer /> 
  <catalogNo /> 
  <promotion>SRP/Def Jam</promotion> 
  <distribution>IDJMG</distribution> 
  <peak>16</peak> 
  <weeksOn>1</weeksOn> 
 </chartItem>

Does that help clarify things for you? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 14:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it does: thanks, John! To answer your question, Kevin, [8]. Yves (talk) 16:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Nelly Furtado

I see now that the issue has been debated ad nauseum, so no more reverting from me. But I'm a little confused. Later on, the article says that she was "born...to Portuguese parents." So, technically, it seems like we're just as clearly violating that BLP rule anyway. So shouldn't we also remove the ethnicity of her parents? And probably not mention that she started singing at the age of 4 in Portugeuse (since the only way to speak a language that young is to learn it at home)? It just doesn't seem very consistent to me. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

IP socking to edit Rihanna articles

I believe my good friend is back. Compare the edit summaries and targets of the last few edits by 212.87.71.218 with the edits of Iluvrihanna24 and Thesimpsonsfan1995. Also, one of the first non-Rihanna edits by Iluvrihanna24 was to Cams Hill School, and look at the first edits by 212.87.71.218, not to mention the IP's ISP — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 14:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

And again. And again, etc. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 16:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Painfully ducky to me - I tagged the IP. - eo (talk) 20:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Again?

I just took a little closer look at the contributions of User:Christmasiscoming4u, who has been editing Rihanna articles since Tuesday. The structure of the edit summaries is awfully familiar (although they do exist!) and the kinds of changes are also similar to Iluvrihanna24. If it's our old (young) friend, he's at least being very careful, from what I've seen of the last few days' edits. I'm only 58.4% convinced it's a sock of Iluvrihanna24, but maybe you could keep an eye open for their edits, esp. as I haven't had much time for WP lately. Best regards, by the way, in any case. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Now 74% sure. Appeared (at first) quite improved relative to earlier appearances, has tried to use edit summaries and taken some pains to include refs with full citations. Copies and pastes text from Billboard pages.[9] (one of several at User talk:Christmasiscoming4u#November 2010) Still has no real understanding of ref citations, when to add them, where they're kept, etc.[10] Coming (back) around to multiple edits in a row on one article. Hmm, maybe it's more than just 74% already. What do you think? Have you noticed his edits yourself? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 18:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

First, if you are commenting way, way, up my talk page, you should move the section to the bottom. That way I'm more likely to see it. I've requested a checkuser.—Kww(talk) 19:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Fine; I guess I should have just started a new section. CU is fine, although I don't have clear enough evidence to bring to strangers without writing a long legal brief. Thanks, Kevin. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 19:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Good work; thanks again. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Why Don't You Love Me

Please participate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Why_Don't_You_Love_Me_(Beyonc%C3%A9_Knowles_song)#Single.3F Jivesh boodhun (talk) 07:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Another Believed Jerome0012

I think they User:Jerome0012 have returned in the form of User:207.138.210.10, still insisting on using album track listing templates on Selena Gomez singles articles. Candyo32 23:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

User:TheNoOneBoy03. Ugh, similar editing habits. Candyo32 01:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree. --Confession0791 ^talk 01:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Brexx

This edit of yours got caught up in my reverts of Brexx's edits. My judgment was that it was an edit that you didn't really want to make on your own, you were just responding to his disruption of the article. If I'm wrong, let me know, and I'll restore it.

BTW, when you get wrapped up with an editor like that, the odds are pretty good that it's Brexx. Drop me a note, and I'll see what I can do about it.—Kww(talk) 21:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

If you could restore it that would be great, the edit itself wasnt bad Brexx just cant edit for crap and it took him like 30 tries to keep adding things incorrectly and i just didnt feel like cleaning it up. The revision you showed is after i cleaned it up so if you could restore that it would be much appreciated :) And thank god its a sock because he was really beginning to piss me off -_- Ill keep that in mind if i notice similar editing styles and will ask you. Also if its not on your watchlist, it seems brexx took quite a liking to Cannibal (EP). - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 23:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, could you take a look into User:Itsbydesign because hes becoming a pain in a number of editors butts, especially myself. He was blocked once for sockpuppeting then unblocked, im not exactly sure why. Thanks in advance. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 23:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not Brexx.—Kww(talk) 00:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Itsbydesign is definitely not Brexx, but I have always felt that he is the returned sock of some banned user. His musical tour edits and the MOS violations, especially remind me of an editor I faced at the Madonna articles. Now, Kevin can't we do something to stop this Brexx madness once and for all? I mean can't there be a range block on teh IP or something? I really commend you for keeping tab on the so many socks he has generated, its a pretty nasty business and maybe community ban, or a rangeblock would be the only thing as solution? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Brexx knows how to get past all of our technical defenses. The only thing left is alertness.—Kww(talk) 15:38, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Help/WMA

Hi Kevin, I'm having issues with Baltic, who acting as though he owns the page, again. He keeps adding that "after selling 175 million albums, Celine Dion was presented the Chopard Diamond Award at the Wold Music Awards for becoming the best-selling female artist." If you look here on the World Music Awards official website, and click on "Diamond Award" you'll see its very clear that it is for artists that have sold over 100 million albums in their career. Mariah Carey and Rod Stewart won it before her, does that mean they are best-selling? Of course not, its because they sold over 100 million albums. Please help and make it clear for him? Thanks--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 04:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Advice

People seem to be missing one crucial point: neutrality isn't the primary issue, it's scale. We all know that if you bring enough editors to an AFD, consensus becomes impossible. Epeefleche is well aware of that, and, since he wants the articles kept, "no consensus" is a win. I'm seriously considering just issuing the indef block until he apologizes and agrees to follow WP:CANVASS myself if no one is going to step up to the plate. This is a ridiculously obvious case of canvassing, including off-wiki canvasssing.—Kww(talk) 04:02, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

You should do it. I at least would back you on that.

I would have posted this on ANI, but I am doing it here because of the high probability that you'll miss it otherwise. NW (Talk) 04:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Let's hope you weren't kidding. He's indefed.—Kww(talk) 05:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

You're going to cop a lot of flak for this, but I for one think you were right. Reyk _YO! 05:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it was the right thing to do. When editors clearly break the rules (and have a history of breaking the same rules in the past), and they refuse to acknowledge that they've done something wrong, there are not many other choices available. Either there are consequences, or we send the message that breaking the rules is ok. SnottyWong ^communicate 05:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

It's interesting what ANI will tell you about the character of an editor and whether they are able to place politics or Wikiconnections ahead of doing the right thing. Thank you.

I'll leave it to another administrator to review it, but I think it's worth reading Epeefleche's response. Do you think it is worth trying to explain to him why he is wrong? NW (Talk) 15:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

#1 Latin genre categories

Hello Kww! I just want your input on this. Would it would be alright to create categories on #1 singles for Latin pop, Regional Mexican, and Latin Tropical Airplay? I just want to make sure it's okay. Thanks. Magiciandude (talk) 20:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Note

Thank you.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Euro200.net

hello but euro200.net chart is official chart in poland —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arek14193 (talk • contribs) 07:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

but i live in poland and i know what this chart is oficcial Arek14193 (talk) 14:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Billboard Brazil

Hello, by "WP:GOODCHARTS": in Brazil these charts can be included only by referencing the physical magazine, not the online chart. So we do not have the appropriate external link, and this link ISSN 977-217605400-2 does not prove the publication of Billboard magazine, there is no other notable source for the peak in Brazil for Loca.
--D6h ^{What's on your mind?} 16:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

GT5 locked?

Hi there, the article for Gran Turismo 5 appears to be locked, and nobody on the talk page is paying any notice at all. This looks to be one of the biggest videogames of the year, and there is lots lacking in the article - any chance you could do something to get it editable again?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.22.71 (talk) 20:19, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Heads up regarding a suspicious edit

I noticed you've had problems with a certain banned user called ItHysteria who utilizes various socks and focuses his attention on the band 30 Seconds from Mars. You previously reverted a edit on the list of Alternative Metal Artists page done by an sock I.P. linked to said user:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_alternative_metal_artists&diff=399329992&oldid=399324980

Well, I reverted an identical edit from another anon I.P (79.31.37.11) just now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_alternative_metal_artists&diff=prev&oldid=400914433

Maybe I'm being paranoid and it's someone else, just thought I'd let you know about it. AlecTrevelyan402(Click Here to leave a message)

Tireless Contributor

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Kevin, for your endless good effort helping out on music related articles and those that edit them. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:05, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Colonel Warden RFC/U

FYI - A request for comments has been started on User:Colonel Warden. Since you participated in this ANI thread which preceded this RfC/U, you might be interested in participating. If so, please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Colonel Warden. Thanks. SnottyWong ^talk 00:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Hard Candy (Madonna album)

Kevin I am facing a dilemma about the British certification of this album. The BPI link shows Hard Candy to be gold certified, however, in OCC's year end countdown for 2008, the album is given as Platinum. My question is which one to use in such a case? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I'd go with BPI unless you can find corroborating evidence that BPI is wrong. If you do find such evidence, go with the platinum, but include the explanation in your reference.—Kww(talk) 16:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

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Brexx on an IP

This looks like classic Brexx[11], ie this diff:[12]. Siawase (talk) 00:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Siawase (talk) 03:38, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Histomerge

Hi Kev. Could you histomerge User:Lil-unique1/Sandbox/4 with Coming Home (Diddy-Dirty Money song) please? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 01:20, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

New sockpuppet

Just pointing out User:Hncvc made a new sock puppet after he was blocked in User:Shncvi. The editing habits are exactully the same with making random changes in Associated Acts in infoboxes with not using correct capitalization, spacing etc. STATic message me! 17:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay I don't know why but I remembered him getting indefed in the past but I guess not... With the new account he'll have 0 strikes so he will get indefed on the new account later so yeah I don't know what to do about this. STATic message me! 05:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hi Kevin. SO Max and I are trying to do things peacefully, so please assist with your opinion. I once again re-added "the best-selling christmas album of all time". I have four independent (not including her official website and label) that claim that exact claim. I have The New Yorker, The National, The Independent and Rap-Up. I see absolutely no reason why we cannot add this with these 4 highly reliable sources. Max and I aren't edit-warring, but we disagree so please step in. He seems to believe that discussion in July stops any addition of that sort to the article. Please review and get back to me. Thanks :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 21:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Umm, is there a reason why you don't asnwer me ever anymore?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 05:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yes, Nathan, it's your deodorant. Also, I think Kevin's pretty busy in RL and has changed his focus on WP. I see relatively little from him these days myself. I'm sure if he gets time, he'll come round to your place. But, uh, maybe you could change that shirt first. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 08:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Lol John, thanks for brightening up the mood :) Well its far from the first time. Whatever, we'll see :D PS Shirt's changed :P--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be slow responding. Been having difficulty dealing with Wikipedia in general. You know my general opinion on placing superlatives in articles: they give it a flavor of one-upmanship and promotion that we really don't need. You best strategy is to open up discussions on the talk page and get people on your side: if you can show a consensus that your sources are good and your material is relevant, Max won't be able to preclude inclusion.

Besides, in a fair and just world, the Puppini Sisters (http://www.amazon.com/Christmas-With-The-Puppini-Sisters/dp/B0044JXK64) would have the best selling Christmas album of all time. I can listen to them for hours. I can listen to Mariah for a few minutes, and Celine sends me running for the off button as quickly as my little legs can scurry.—Kww(talk) 18:37, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Hahahahahah, I knew you didn't like her :P Well its nice to hear from you after so long! :) I will definitely do so!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 22:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Sock back

Kevin, you indefd User:LAUGH90 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for continuous disruption at the Madonna articles without any consensus. The user is back as a sock User:ARMOR89 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), and continuing the same disruptions. Please take a look. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Kevin, I have added the {{sockpuppet}} tag on the userpage. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

XpoisonparadiseX

I have absolutely no idea who he/she might be. Disruptions like this on Britney articles have never happened since I've been working on them. I just reverted most of his edits, we should just keep an eye on this person. Xwomanizerx (talk) 22:11, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

awesome diff script

I tweaked your diffs. See User:Snottywong/diffconverter and the talk on my page. This may seem an extra step, but hard-coded diffs screw people up when they're on the other server (wp:Secure server or the other way). They are often flipped to one they're not logged into and this can result in them inadvertently editing as an IP. And read Firesheep for why to use the secure server. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/G.-M. Cupertino

Thanks for following up on that. And in keeping with the rule that no good deed goes unpunished, can you help me sort out when a CU on an IP is proper? I was a bit embarrassed to have the CU request turned down, figuring I should have read the policy a bit more closely; but on the other hand it seems to be, or have been, a pretty common practice in the past to ask for a CU on an IP against a named, banned user - indeed as the archive of this one user shows. Has something changed? Thanks for any and all advice you can offer. JohnInDC (talk) 21:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

(Have now seen your simultaneous comment on my talk page about the other question I had, thanks for that.) JohnInDC (talk) 21:47, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

LAUGH90

Socking is continuing, see 76.117.166.71. Block please. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification Kevin, at Talk:COADF. A small help, I installed the Miszabot to archive my talk page. Can you see what went wrong? Because the bot did not archive in today's daily process. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

RFC courtesy notice - succession boxes

As someone who has taken part in previous discussions regarding the use of succession boxes in articles for songs and albums, I'd like to notify you of a request for comment that is taking place at WT:CHARTS#Request for comment: Use of succession boxes. It would be nice to finally come to a resolution on this. If you have already participated in this RFC or do not care to participate, then please disregard this notice. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 00:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Ongoing personal attacks

I think Georgia Bird (talk · contribs) is in need of an urgent block. Continuous personal attacks and abuse has been directed at editors, last one being here. You can see from the contributions the violations of WP:NPA. Its revolting. I believe you can take necessary steps. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:05, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

No Personal Attacks

I apologized to the girl for my actions and she forgave me. Disregard the previous post above and let me continue with my edits like I always do. Oh, and the girl above started her arguments with me. She stuck her nose where it doesn't belong. I believe the argument was between me and Yvesnimmo. But like I said, the situation was settled and I apologized. Thanks, Georgia Peachez (talk) 04:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppets

Kevin, what do you think of User:56tyvfg88yju, and User:Piano non troppo? The former is definitely a sock of the latter. I am sure for a number of reasons. The latter user once was opposing the promotion of all music articles for FA or GA if it did not have a detailed musical analysis. Even went so far as to take recently promoted articles for FAR, against the rules. Piano was warned by admins and the FA community, and then ceased to edit after June. Now the former user is back, and guess what? The first edits are opposing two present song articles on FAC, based on the same grounds, and, here's the funny part, citing the same examples of "Hey Jude" and "Symphony No. 41 (Mozart)". This is a clear shot of sockpuppetry. I know of this, because the user once vehemently opposed the promotion of "Paparazzi", and exactly same comments were given. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:53, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I have never been sure of two socks more so, since the User:Dance-pop days. And since you brought up abuse, I was thnking, disrupting the FAC process for the same things Piano was warned for, isn't that a clear-shot abuse of the editing priviledges? Its like vote stacking I feel. I haven't seen anyone with a more obvious socking. Same comments, calling others "illeterate" etc etc. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Idiot !!!

How could you block Disney09? He is one of the best editor's Wikipedia has ever seen. Most of his edits make sense, except a small few. You are such an idiot! Either you reverse his block, or you'll suffer the consequences. 64.231.70.182 (talk) 19:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Could you block Charlie IP 86.138.100.218 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) (again) before he attack (again) my page? Maybe one week or more per its block log. Thank you Tbh®tch^{Talk ©} Happy Holidays 17:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Madonna (entertainer)

Kevin, can you keep an eye on the last section of the above talk page? Nathan and another user is getting involved in the usual diva wars and PAs. Though Nathan has refrained I believe, the other user is still adding, inspite of my warning. Just keep a lookout, in case administrative actions are required. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

By the way, lmao! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I have a question about Cher's birthname sources

An editor All Hallow's Wraith persistently removes Cher's birthname (Cherilyn Sarkisian) along with reliable sources such as Daily Mail, Britannica and The New York Times claiming at the talk-page that we should leave the birthname out because The California Birth Index lists her as having been born Cheryl Lapiere (searchlable here) and those sources supporting Cher's birthname as Cherilyn Sarkisian are not definitive. My question is this, how could anyone be sure that the search result in the California Index confirms information specifically about Cher when the name Cheryl Lapiere is typed in? Your input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.--Harout72 (talk) 06:15, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing things up at Cher's talk, I hope the user All Hallow's Wraith doesn't decide to remove it again, I'd hate to be edit-warring.--Harout72 (talk) 17:23, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hi Kevin! "A Very Merry Christmas to You". Let this Christmas bring something special to you. Novice7 | Talk 06:52, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Kevin, do periods have significance in album titles? This page? I think it should be moved to Just Whitney (without periods), right? Novice7 | Talk 07:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Cold fusion talk page

Hi Kww, I saw your post on jps' talk page about the situation with a possible banned user/sockpuppet there; I have nothing to add about that situation, but want to bring to your attention a different banned user posting on that page: Moulton, who is signing with his Wikiversity signature, also with the names Caprice and Montana Mouse; the IP is 68.160.132.4. He has apparently recently had a dispute with Abd and Edmund Storms on Wikiversity, and is bringing that dispute to the Wikipedia cold fusion talk page, and also came to my talk page to suggest I should read one of his comments on the cold fusion talk (which was simply a dig against Abd and did not merit being brought to my attention). Enric Naval removed one of the talk: cold fusion comments that had not been responded to, and struck other comments that had been responded to, as edits from a banned user; Alison reverted with an edit summary scolding Enric for being "petty." I don't understand that action, and my request for explanation from Alison has gone unanswered, no doubt because of the holidays and all, but I'm quite puzzled; do we now allow banned users to post with impunity? I don't understand. If you could help me understand the reason for this banned user being not only allowed to comment but being encouraged to do so, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Woonpton (talk) 17:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Thank you not only for restoring peace and sanity to some of the pages this banned user has been disrupting with his nonsense, but for restoring a bit of my lost faith in the project. Woonpton (talk) 14:55, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Jerome's back

He's back as User:TheNoOneBoy4. Candyo32 - Merry CHRISTmas :) 01:25, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Kevin, I believe B. Fairbairn (talk · contribs) has crossed the limits of civility and personal attacks tolerance. He has been attacking Petergriffin9901, Xwomanizerx, vandalising their user pages and throwing a string of profanity. I left a strong message on his talk page, which of course resulted in attacking me, calling me Legolass. Would you take a look at him/her and judge as an admin? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the action Kevin, I have a hunch he will change for good. Not a bad editor, just madea a string of bad judgement by deleting content from Britney Spears without any consensus. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:25, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Please help me move

Please help me move the Bleu's Run it back again to Run It Back Again (naming). I really can't want by using "requested move". Thank you. Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 07:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

I moved it, but then installed a redirect on top of it again. This doesn't warrant an article, as it doesn't pass WP:NSONGS. The "Bubbling Under" chart isn't normally considered to count as charting, as it is a chart of songs that haven't charted.—Kww(talk) 13:20, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your help. Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 17:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)/GA2

Hey Kww. Hope you're doing well. I was asked to back out of doing a GA review, and I'm not sure how I'd do that, so I'm just contacting you to ask if you could delete the page, so somebody else could do it. Thank you! ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT 15:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Hullaballoo

No use trying to beat sense into Hullaballoo. He has at least a two year history of being a total douche to me and not even a WP:RFC fixed things. All we got there was a bunch of nothing. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:15, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

UKchartstats in Singlechart

I'm not sure you saw my pointer to the draft documentation I've worked up in my Sandbox4 for the changes to the ChartStats site. Feedback welcome. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:17, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I totally missed that you answered me on my Talk page (two days ago!).

I'm even more sorry I didn't do a better job of writing. The thing you complain about being missing is (I thought) in the id or release subsection in the Fields section. It obviously didn't come out clear enough. While I'm pondering how I might rewrite it, maybe there's some other (additional) place you were expecting that info to be?

And, by the way, Kevin, best wishes for a happy new year, too. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:10, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

United World Charts

Thank you for your information : ) ! --79.216.174.18 (talk) 01:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: Badsource

Typing error Kevin. Sorry. To be fair to me, I did leave a message on his page :) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 01:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Oops... I didnt realise I'd left that note wrong too. Sorry I'm a little wound up at the moment cus of [ave enough musical knowledge about ska and reggae to reasonably conclude that it fits neither category this very silly dispute over genres of Rihanna's "What's My Name?". -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 01:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Not sure I quite agree but thank you for weighing in on the discussion. Unfortunately this whole issue with genres is becoming quite troublesome. When I reviewed Dance in the Dark for GA we had similar issues there too. It might be time to set up some guidance on genres with examples? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 02:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

The dust has settled, I have removed ska and reggae from the article. And would now ask that the RfC is closed now that the issue for which it was raised, has now been solved. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 20:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Return of Hullaballoo again

You might be interested in this discussion. I honestly think we've let HW get away with murder way, way, way too many times, and no one seems fit to give him more than a light wrist-slap. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Diffs provided. He's not rude just to me, but this is the biggest, most blatant lie I've ever seen from anyone on Wikipedia in five years. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Also provided some evidence of his refusal to engage in discussion. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:20, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Something tells me he's going to go back to his old ways and get blocked for it... (not that some of his arguments about me being rude to him are invalid, but unlike him I'm trying to change that...). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:28, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Israeli Charts

I will, because this is an OFFICIAL singles chart just like the american, irish and british ones! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deanb (talk • contribs)

Two thumbs up

Nice rhyming edit summary.[13] Has a sort of "The Cat in the Hat Goes to Wikipediatown" feel to it. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 23:38, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Article protection

Hi Kww. Could you protect the article Merry Christmas II You, so that annonymous IPs can't edit it? From the last 4 days I'm reverting changes made by various IPs about sales of the album. It doesn't seem to end. Thanks in advance. Max24 (talk) 01:20, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, bro

I'm just wrapping up a few loose ends and I noticed that the little pervert hit my page again. Thanks for the protection, but I don't see any further need at this time to monitor it. Let him rant. I've been volunteering on and off this site since its inception and the more popular it's become, the worse this sort of thing gets. This poor, sick little boy has been at it for years and apparently, his range is too large to block. So, rather than inconvenience a few potential new users, it's apparently in the "better interest" of the site to let idiots like this play around while good users simply throw up their hands and leave the project. Why he's set his sights on me, I'll never know since I really had no prior conflicts with him that I can recall. When I first started here, I came to write and improve articles. I wanted to be an admin to help with the idiocy, but now it seems the idiocy has outstripped the good edits. Take care, happy new year and perhaps we'll work together again someday. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 15:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Tophit.ru or fdr.com.ua???

I don't understand you); according to your explanation about Russian Airplay Chart I can say that Ukrainian Airplay Chart & their website fdr.com.ua (fdr.com.ua/chart/top_40/) is Bad Chart & non-notable too. Pay attention on this please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gegham (talk • contribs) 17:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay) I wrote about ukrainian charts 'cause it's no any article/talk about that. Ukrainian charts aren't listed at & WP:BADCHARTS & WT:Record charts. Anyway thanks! p.s. Happy New Year! —Gegham(talk) 18:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Brexx?

Quack?[14] Siawase (talk) 09:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again. Siawase (talk) 17:38, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

All the right moves

Why did you remove the information about israel? ישרון (talk) 09:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

What the Hell

"In general, if the musician or ensemble is notable, and if the album in question has been mentioned in multiple reliable sources, then their officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia".. below is written "Songs..that have been independently released as a recording by NOTABLE ARTISTS (and Avril is notable), bands or groups ARE probably NOTABLE"..for these reasons What the Hell is already encyclopedic. --Fede86tp (talk) 18:54, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Freakum Dress

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Freakum Dress. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Tbhotch^™ and © 22:31, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

• The song didn't receive a conventional physical release as a single, but it was given promotion independent of the album, so the statement "[i]t wasn't released as a single" is rather misleading—particularly given that digital downloading is redefining the definition of a "single" (see Billboard). Also, Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums and songs states, "A separate [song] article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; permanent stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." I'm not sure how "reasonably detailed" is defined, but I'm pretty certain that the article isn't a stub. The B'Day article is already very long, and though at a glance it appears to be in need of a little tightening, I'm not sure it would be appropriate for content containing information specific to the song to be included in the album article. In any case, AFD is for proposals for deletion, not merging—if you think the article should be merged somewhere, please follow the instructions at Help:Merging and moving pages#Proposing a merger. Notability is rather the issue here. But notability does not mean a song should be released as a single. Also, maybe in other place the song is not notable enough but in Europe, it is. I was thinking also of merging; B'Day was just revamped by me and I personally assert that its long and need professional copy-editing. Everything important in the article is already mentioned in the mother article. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I saw G4 and this is ridiculous. What i have done is miles better. And i have not been blocked in the past because i was creating articles but because i used to insert information without citing a source and because i inserted bad-charts several times. Well, i was new at that time and i was not really doing all that with a bad intention. I no longer do such things. You can ask anyone who knows me here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

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RE: cANVASSING

fighting for the article or editing to perfect. thanx!, Canvass? Where? I am just seeing that he commented to an user that he could fight expanding, improving, or whatever is necessary for not to be deleted, nowhere say that he must vote for keep it. And since I am here, why Jivesh were never notified of the deletion of the article by you? He had to be notified by three different users, as well, why the project was never notified? Even the WP:SONGS has to be notified for deletions. Tbhotch^Talk and C. 23:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

So you are trying to delete someone's article without let them know it, if someone is making biased things, is not Theuhohreo. Tbhotch^Talk and C. 23:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Copyright violations

I was searching through the GA nominations today, when i came across this article, Elissa (singer). This is probably one of the worst articles ive ever came across, ive quick failed it. While conducting the review i checked the images for sources, every single image is copyrighted and needs to be deleted. Image one, source is facebook and is incorrectly claimed under {{CC-BY-SA-3.0}}, Image two is the exact same thing. Image three a single magazine tag, no ration for use and lastly, Image four, same issue as one and two. Im not sure what to tag them as or if they should be speedy deleted, thank you. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 01:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Fun chore for the morning. I'll take care of it.—Kww(talk) 03:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Singlechart

Hi Kevin! So, I am working on an article (a song). It made its appearance during the early 2000s (2001-2002). As Canadian Singles Chart was used at the time, is there a singlechart for it? I actually converted all the charts to singlechart and found there is no template for Canadian Singles Chart. Can I change it back to the original format? I read that we're not supposed to change it back, but some with singlechart and others without it, makes it messy. Novice7 | Talk 16:18, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Is it okay to use both Singlechart and non-singlechart together? Novice7 | Talk 04:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Novice7 | Talk 04:11, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Hullaballoo

...has attacked me yet again. Blatantly false accusations of bad faith on my part, not to mention that he thinks I didn't do a Google search when I did. Yet again he is calling me incompetent. Tell me how he's going to get out of this one. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 03:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Hullaballoo_yet_again.... Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 04:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC) Disregard. Paul Erik is right. My hands aren't clean themselves so I have no right to push for HW to get blocked. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 06:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Keke Palmer photo

• Have been trying to find a photo for Keke Palmer's page (one that fits Wiki's code of conduct) since it needed one. Will add more info for this photo of Palmer within the next couple of days but hope it helps.LAUGH90 (talk) 05:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Brexx sighting at California Gurls?

Is this your friend Brexx? I don't know his style so I can't say. I left an AGF response, but thought you might want to look at the user's other contribs. Regards, — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

This may be of interest

Hi Kww. Because I'm aware of your indefinite blockage of User:Disney09, I'd like to bring to your attention, new User:Informationadvocate. The editing pattern is identical, with return visits to the same or similar articles. I'm assuming you may want to put this one on your radar. Regards,  -- WikHead (talk) 17:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Slug (song)

Please do not turn Slug (song) into a redirect. It is a good article and has plenty of reliable sources and should in no way become a redirect. There should be no issues with an article's notability if it is a Good Article, and turning it into a redirect without consensus could be constituted as valdalism. –Dream out loud (talk) 21:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

For what it may be worth i consider your actions to be at best borderline vandalism considering this isn't the first time you have objected to the existence of the article and have been told not to make such unilateral changes to it. Your proposal to merge it in July 2010 had no support. Redirecting is not the next step when a proposed merge fails to get any support. Charting rarely happens for a non-single, especially on a national chart. Songs are not required to be released as singles. Winning awards does not inherently make things notable and worthy of retaining an article. If you want a photographic cover for the infobox then too bad, one does not exist. If you want information on other musicians who have also performed the song then may i suggest you make a request to Keane that they add it to their setlist and release it as a b-side. That actually sounds like a good idea so i might just do that too. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 23:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Suga Mama (song)

Do not turn Suga Mama into a redirect. It is a good article and has plenty of reliable sources and should in no way become a redirect. There should be no issues with an article's notability if it is a Good Article, and turning it into a redirect without consensus could be constituted as valdalism, which by looking at your page, is an ongoing issue for you and may lead to reporting. 74.72.160.180 (talk) 00:34, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Done -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 21:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Purpose of notifications?

• A) to avoid what happened with your previous AFD.
• B) per this. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 03:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Possible sock

I think I may have come across another sock of User:G.-M. Cupertino. User:LoveActresses was blocked as a sockpuppet of Cupertino on November 5th. The account User:Konakonian was created on November 20th and started adding unsourced genealogical information and performing page moves of the same articles as Cupertino/Love Actresses. Their intersecting contributions are listed here. I'm more inclined to believe this is a sock than mere coincidence, but as you have more experience with this particular case I thought you may want to do a quick review.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps I should take this to WP:SPI instead? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 03:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I've had some contact with User:Konakonian and he/she has added SOURCED and valuable information on an article, that User:Love Actresses basically only vandalized in: William Brandon (standard-bearer). Konakonian also argued in a polite way, were Love Actresses was all about accusations and insults. Before you take any further actions regarding Konakonian, please take a careful look at his/her edits and behaviour, because personally I don't believe this is another sock puppet of Cupertino.--Feuerrabe (talk) 09:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Kww - User:Konakonian has left a rather lengthy note on my talk page denying the connection. Note that they continue to edit articles outside of the block using an IP address. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Whether a sock of GMC or not, Konakonian is now using an IP to evade a block, and subject to the same sanctions either way. Agricolae (talk) 20:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

t.A.T.u.'s charts

Why do you delete t.A.T.u's US Billboard charts from t.A.T.u. discography? Billboard HOT100 and Dance (or Pop) are the most important charts around the world. Do you think that "Austrian Charts" are more important? Please... I don't get it. Please, answer here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.8.136.118 (talk) 19:50, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

When do you think I did that? I've reviewed the history, and I only see that I have removed tophit.ru, a chart listed on WP:BADCHARTS.—Kww(talk) 04:06, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm really, really sorry. I made a mistake. That did "Hiago Benevenuto": http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T.A.T.u._discography&diff=407196318&oldid=404382566 Is it good change or vandalism by him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.23.247.61 (talk) 17:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Iluvrihanna24 evading her block again

Hello! Iluvrihanna24 is evading her block again. You might want to consider blocking her for a considerably longer time, and also block any registered accounts from editing from the IP in question. HeyMid (contribs) 18:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. HeyMid (contribs) 10:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

who is Tre' Shon Jenkins?

Hi Kev, I've been increasingly getting annoyed with the number of times I come across a page where Tre' Shon Jenkins is listed as a writer for a song (e.g.). I've done a search of google to try and find out who this alleged person is but there's no verifiable results. However loads of wikipedia pages come up where he/she is listed yet I have never legitimately come across it in any reliable source or album booklet. Additionally it tends to be added by IPs... so I'm wondering if it is someone's attempt to build up notoriety for someone who doesn't yet have a place in the industry or if its some strange form of vandalism. Either way I thought you could probably shed some light on the situation and perhaps point me in the right direction if something could be done? I don't suppose you can black-list terms or mark "Tre' Shon Jenkins" to be flagged by a Bot as a vadalous edit? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 05:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

This apparently bogus performer is also known (at least in certain WP articles) as "Tray J", as for example here. I revert these on sight, because (1) I've seen them pop up in flurries of additions to established credits lists on multiple articles, (2) the addition of this person's credits is all the adding IP editor does, (3) they're never referenced, and (4) Google doesn't point to any real notability. I think there was a third spelling but I've forgotten what it was. The IP editor appears to be in Bakersfield CA (which I will hazard a guess is the home base of the esteemed Mr. Jenkins). — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Jerome

Think he's back? Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 17:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Lady Aleena/Television/Crossovers

As a contributor to this MFD back in 2009 (resulting in keep), you may be interested to know this page has been renominated for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Lady Aleena/Television/Crossovers (2nd nomination). Robofish (talk) 18:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

GAR?

I tried to nominate What Goes Around.../...Comes Around for GAR, but it said this: "The page title or edit you have tried to create has been restricted to administrators at this time. It matches an entry on the local or global blacklists, which is usually used to prevent vandalism. If you receive this message when trying to edit, create or move an existing page, follow these instructions..." Why is this? Are requests disabled or something? ℥^nding·start 17:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It's because of the ...s in the title. The same thing happened when Pretty Baby.... was reviewed. So I had to create the review page so the reviewer could review it! –anemoneprojectors– 19:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Yep, it's the title. You want me to create the reassessment page for you?—Kww(talk) 20:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Yes please if you wouldn't mind. ℥^nding·start 21:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Done.—Kww(talk) 22:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much. :) ℥^nding·start 22:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

HIAM incubator

Could you delete this? Thanks. Xwomanizerx (talk) 19:02, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Needs a history merge, and the history is a mess. It'll take a day.—Kww(talk) 04:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Suspected Punkox sock??

I've bumping onto this user, who edits Jessica Simpson's Irresistible song page. I suspect he's Punkox (talk · contribs) back with a new user name (sockpuppet). Well, an IP added this to the article, which was reverted. After a few hours, the Drink1 (talk · contribs) added the same thing back. I saw Punkox SPI and saw that there are some suspected IPs. Maybe, the IP and User are his? Do we need a Check user? Novice7 | Talk 16:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

:)

Ok :). Sorry, I didn't know, 'cause I work more in Wikipedia in Spanish, so yeah, thanks. --Agusx12 (talk) 21:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Longboredsurfer

Hi Kevin! Is longboredsurfer.com reliable? I mean, can we use it to source Billboard Year-end charts (like in "Irresistible (Jessica Simpson song)")? Novice7 | Talk 06:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Novice7 | Talk 16:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

OpenCart article

Hi, article OpenCart was twice deleted, so I created my own version of this page in User:Berushka1/Opencart. Did I write this page without mistakes/problems, so it will be possible to approve it? Thanks for help.--Berushka1 (talk) 21:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Help

A user moved Shake It Up (TV series) to Shake it Up, but the logo of the TV show is stylized, so it was correct to begin with. Candyo32 02:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: "Quiet correction" of quotes?

Hello, Kww. You have new messages at C.Fred's talk page.
Message added 05:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Latin songs

A couple of months ago, I brought up a point about the Latin charts for Billboard on the Manual of Style (record chart) talk page. I'd like to see your stance on it. Magiciandude (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The discussion was archived and seems no one objected it. Magiciandude (talk) 17:25, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

So is it alright that it is updated based on the discussion we had? As well as create categories? Magiciandude (talk) 05:31, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Alright thanks. I thought I'd help out by adding acceptable and unacceptable charts in the guideline for the task force. Magiciandude (talk) 20:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Brandy

I've added my comments about the name of the Brandy article... Brandy only ever used Brandy as a professional name, just like Madonna or Rihanna. I never ever saw her go by Brandy Norwood professionally. Madonna's article is entitled Madonna (entertainer), not Madonna Ciccone, Rihanna's article is entitled Rihanna, not Robyn Fenty or Robyn Rihanna Fenty. I don't understand why Brandy's article is any different. Unlike Beyoncé that sometimes goes by Beyoncé Knowles professionally, Brandy always goes by Brandy. For that reason, she should be named Brandy throughout the whole article. Yeah. The article should defintely be named Brandy (entertainer). She goes by one name, just like Madonna or Rihanna. I never saw her use her last name professionally. Israell (talk) 20:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Spidey sense

A few edits have popped up on my watchlist that appear Cupertino-ish. User:Konakonian was blocked as a sock of Cupertino on 1/18. On 1/22 the account Nan Boleyn was created and sat dorment until they began editing on 2/12. Within the first week they have been moving articles to their preferred title, arguing with veteran editors, and adding obscure genealogical info to biographies without including any sources (this can be confirmed by reviewing any of their contributions). Do you think there is enough of a link to request a checkuser? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:31, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

• Update - they just tripped the page move filter. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Single chart error?

See this for an example. Its popped up on Born This Way (song) too. Also the Austrian Single chart needs ammending. In the table... it generates Top 75 but in the reference it says Top 40. ??? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 19:19, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Ahh I assumed so... but wasn't sure. It certainly makes you realise there's an input error that's for sure!! hmmm well to be consistent if 75 positions actually exist on the chart then maybe its best to stick to that? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 20:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Re:

Thanks for the warning. Honestly, I don't even know what the user is talking about. I completely fixed up the article, and this user keeps reverted it and calling it vandalism. ℥^nding·start 03:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, I just saw your message on the user's talk page. Could you please put it back to the edits I made to it please? ℥^nding·start 03:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Edition Worth It

Hello Kww, first I want to apologize if I had some mistakes in English, and second, the information contained in article Worth It, of Wanessa are complement any true, and sources confirm. If you can't read in Portuguese, so leave the article in peace and allow others to edit. Thanks, Ppoder (talk) 23:31, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Your note on Andrzejbanas talk page

Hello Kww. As I have Andrzejbanas talk page on my watchlist I saw your note about Pé de Chinelo. Having tracked that Brazilian sock puppeteer I thought I would drop a note just in case Andrzejbanas doesn't see you message for a few hours. After taking a look at AscherSE4N's contributions their first three edits were about the subject that Pé is obsessed with - the whole adventure/action film thing. Since then the edits have veered into territories not usually in Pé's wheelhouse. At this moment I would agree with you that this new editor does not seem to be a sock of Pé. Andrzejbanas may have jumped to a hasty conclusion but considering how vile Pé's edit summaries about Andrzejbanas have been I can understand the mistake. You may be aware of all of this but I thought that I would leave you this note just in case. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 02:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I don't think I've quite jumped the gun on it and I'm glad Marnette responded. I think that's Pe just by similar editing patterns. He loves fiddling with genres (made a recent edit on the Sherlock Holmes intro, a bareurl at that) and he's made edits to the Shakira article before as well (can't find the specific edit, but it was about her ethnicity). Personally, I think he's laying low for a while to not immediately get banned but this is just my crazy theorizing. I'd say just keep the user page on watch and see what develops. Cheers. Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

This coming from a guy who thinks inglourious basterds is an adventure film and the good, the bad and the ugly not an adventure film. I'm pé de Chinelo, but I'll be here forever, I'll create as many accounts as I want to, nobody can ban me. AscherSE4N (talk) 16:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Guess that answers our question. Many apologies for doubting you Andrzejbanas. This new version should be blocked on sight and the sock tag readded to his page. MarnetteD | Talk 16:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I see that you have already taken care of the block Kww. Many thanks. MarnetteD | Talk 17:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello again Kww. Do you think that this edit summary [15] performed by one of Pé's numerous IP addresses is worthy of rev/del? It is one of the vile ones that I was referring to above. I have seen r/d applied in many different ways so if you don't think that it is a candidate I will understand. Thanks for you time in looking into this. MarnetteD | Talk 17:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not going to go through past socks and erase ... just not that big of an issue. I think I will have a hard enough time erasing all future edits.—Kww(talk) 17:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I understand. This one stubborn Brazilian. Thanks again for your time. MarnetteD | Talk 18:02, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

RE: Worldlingo.com

Yeah, I didn't realize that till late last night and it sounded really dumb of me... Hahahahaaa But thanks for going into the article and fixing that mistake :] Theuhohreo (talk) 12:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)