Talk:Robert M. Briggs

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Did you know... that Robert M. Briggs won re-election to the Wisconsin State Assembly by promising Beetown a double-track railway that was "like two rows of brass buttons on a double-breasted vest"?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 22:21, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Beetown, Wisconsin, merchant Robert M. Briggs secured re-election to the Wisconsin State Assembly promising that a new railroad would run double tracks by Beetown "like two rows of brass buttons on a double-breasted vest"? Source: Butterfield, C. W. History of Grant County, Wisconsin, containing an account of its settlement... etc. etc. Chicago: Western Historical Society, 1881; p. 573
- ALT1:... that Robert M. Briggs won re-election to the State Assembly promising that a new railroad would run double tracks by Beetown, Wisconsin, "like two rows of brass buttons on a double-breasted vest"? Source: Butterfield, C. W. History of Grant County, Wisconsin, containing an account of its settlement... etc. etc. Chicago: Western Historical Society, 1881; p. 573

Created/expanded by Orangemike (talk). Self-nominated at 17:31, 29 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

ALT0 cannot be approved as it is above the 200 character limit; ALT1 is 195 characters, which personally is a little too long for comfort. If feasible, an a shorter hook be proposed here? The quote is interesting but admittedly it may be challenging to write a hook that meets the requirements without sacrificing it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:07, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The quote is the hook; it's minor but amusing, as a morsel of colorful American folk language of its time. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:53, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Even if so, both hooks are simply too long. There's probably a way to mention the quote in full while still writing a reasonably shorter hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: and @Orangemike: what do you think of this alt?

ALT2:... that Robert M. Briggs won re-election to the Wisconsin State Assembly by promising Beetown a double-track railway that was "like two rows of brass buttons on a double-breasted vest"? BuySomeApples (talk) 00:33, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's okay but I'd like to hear what Mike thinks of the hook first. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:05, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay by me. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:36, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Full review needed now that we have a workable hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough: - Article clocks in at 1012 prose characters, shy of the requirement of 1500

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - Need citation for Turley's intermediate term
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Orangemike: AGF on the source because I can't for the life of me navigate that book; if you could show me where to find that quote, that'd be greatly appreciated. The article needs to be expanded, but as long as the sourcing works out, everything else is fine. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:36, 27 August 2021 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:36, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Orangemike? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Try here; p. 573 --Orange Mike | Talk 15:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These 19th-century legislators are a bit of a specialty of mine, and it's darned hard to track down much about them. I'm still grubbing in my copious spare time.... --Orange Mike | Talk 12:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out he went to California and got into politics, and became D.A. and judge there. Adding fat chunks as I can. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Orangemike: Sorry for the delay, i haven't checked in on this page in a while.

sourcing works out and the article meets length requirements, we're good to go!