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Proposed merge

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

McCafe into the main McDonald's article

McCafe is a product offering of McDonald's and should therefore be part of this main article 124.170.100.123 (talk) 21:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Support - I agree. With all of the new buildings including McCafe in the stores, it only seems right to include it within this article. --Sweet Pea 1981 (talk) 02:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose - I disagree. The McCafe article states that many McCafe's exist as separate outlets, and are seen in the US in the form of a McDonald's restaurant offering. StarfoxRoy(guestbook) 05:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Support - Although they may operate individually, they are still part of the McDonald's corporate concept and share many products as well. The McCafe article is very small as well and I do not see it getting much bigger unless information is related from the McDonald's article.--Chef Tanner (talk) 13:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose - McCafe is becoming an addition to the current US stores and is a stand alone in other places areound the world. It should be mentioned as this is the 1st of many specialty drinks McD has planned. Smoothies are next followed by bottled coke products like Rockstar, Powerade & Full Throttle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NThomas76207 (talk • contribs) 23:27, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Support - I agree that McCafe is a business concept of McDonald's and belongs in the main company article. They are being opened within existing McDonald's outlets and are generally not being opened as stand-alone, separate outlets. The McDonald's article already includes a mention of McCafe and a photo of one of the outlets. Geoff T C 15:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment - In Europe, the McCafe concept is standalone. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 20:33, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Support/:* Comment - Keep it the way it is. McCafe is a standalone concept since the marketing of the products is separate from the regular menu but theoretically it is part of any given German location since the McCafe is integrated into existing restaurants/within the same building (on the same floor but with its own counter/seating areas). There are exceptions to this though, the McCafe on the Hohe Straße in downtown Cologne is located on the 1st floor since the main restaurant occupies its own floor. In this exception, I concur with your reasoning that a McCafe is a standalone concept. Toni S. (talk) 14:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose Lets leave the way is is. --FixmanPraise me 22:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Lets do this the right way shall we? Please say support or oppose so we can get a good idea of the consensus. Also I will list this discussion on the Food & Drink and Foodservice Project pages. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 08:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Support - McCafe is found almost only in McDonalds locations, it is not a seprate business nor is it at a seprate location. For Example a wikipedia uuser wloud expect to finde information on Super Target In the Target Article. Same Goes True With A Fast Food Resturant If Mc Donalds Inc. Was building locations that were on McCafes i wloud then support a split --Koman90 (talk) 22:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Strongest Oppose Possible Per 1. It will make the McDonald's Article too big and violate WP:Size. 2. There are McCafe locations indpendant to McDonald's Restraunts (Same way with Pizza Hut and Wing Street). 3. Most all product lines at McDonald's are already on seperate pages (IE Chicken McNuggets, Big Mac, Big N' Tasty, Quarter Pounder, McRib, ETC) so merging in with McDonalds will break the standards already in place for this setup. (Also if ever single McDonalds Related Page was merged into the McDonald's this article will be well over 2-3 MB big, grossly violating the WP:Size Guideline and making it unreadable and uneditable on many computers, also the fact it will probably crash Wikipedia's Servers, and/or your web browser). So what really needs to be done is to make a McCafe Subsection on McDonald's products and/or McDonald's instead. Sawblade05 (talk to me | my wiki life) 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose Per WP:LENGTH, and the comments left by Sawblade05 above. It should be linked from this main article per the guidelines on splitting topics. Q T C 00:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - McCafe is a bit stub to be just a standalone article, besides it would make more sense to have these two merged. For example think about a case where certain small music bands with stub articles would have separated article for their discography. Okay, it's a pretty bad example but think about some of these following bands having such articles: Killer Dwarfs, Big Fun or Aurra (bands were selected randomly.). It would be pointless to have such short stubs lying around here. McCafe and McDonalds should be merged. Excuse my bad english 'n' good night. --82.181.12.27 (talk) 03:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Consensus is not reached by polling people! Please read WP:NOTAVOTE. Consensus must be reached by discussion from all parties. The359 (talk) 00:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Support - I had just walked into a McDonalds in my town and I saw a McCafe in there! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylerzie4 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose The McCafe concept has been floating around inside MCD for many years. Many different permutations of it (standalone, adjacent store, kiosk, counter, etc) exist, or will exist. Most strongly, McDonald's is about the corporation. Its foolish to include all the different international/local variations, in decor, menus, product names, etc. The menu items already are split out into different pages, McCafe at minimum can be seen as just a menu option for franchisers. Maybe we should discuss about merging Pret A Manger and Boston Market into McDonald's. McDonald's is already 37KB, clearly in violation of WP:LENGTH. Patcat88 (talk) 13:26, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose. McCafe is independently notable, and satisfies WP:N. The article could stand improvement, though: there are many WSJ and business-magazine stories on the McD challenge to Starbucks that are not in the article. THF (talk) 13:26, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


3-in-1 Restaurant Format

In the "Types of Restaurants" section there's no mention of the "3-in-1" test format from earlier this decade (~2001 - ~2003). Customers were seated by a host and ordered from phones with table service. The 3-in-1 referred to traditional McDonald's food, the dinner menu with things like roast beef and turkey dinners, and the expanded desert options. There were two locations in Lincoln, NE as well as at least a couple others. The 3-in-1's were extensively remodeled existing locations that were then eventually converted back into regular McDonald's. 76.84.106.195 (talk) 06:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

These were known as McDiners in my hometown Henderson, KY. We were part of the test group in the Indiana, Kentucky, and Illinois area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.102.226.185 (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

McDonalds College

Is there anything that mentions McDonalds College, and the corporation hiring only McDonalds employees? I didn't see anything. Asdfchristiejkl; (talk) 03:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do not revert the McDonald's Article's logo to the old one with the red background, this new "Backgroundless" logo has ben in use since 2004 in the united states and this article is log overdue for a logo transition. However if wloud like to help make this new logo transparent or make it a vector format please feel free to do so. --Koman90 (talk) 22:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The corporate logo is the red square logo. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 22:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

About location types

Some museums have McDonald's restaurants in them, like the Field Museum, where there is a McDonald's in place of a food court. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.187.41 (talk) 04:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Addition to "See also" section

{{editsemiprotected}}

  • Tao Lin, a novelist, short story writer and poet, features McDonald's in a short story in his book Bed.

Ivy.palma (talk) 07:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC) Ivy.palma

Hmm... I wouldn't put it in there, since a lot of books mention McDonald's, but I want some other opinion. Leujohn (talk) 10:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


True, many books include it. This one differs in that it portrays a pervasive view of McDonald's held by a significant portion of the current generation. How the youth views McDonald's has everything to do with the quantity of people who will visit the fast food chain, let alone frequent it, hence potentially affecting its income. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivy.palma (talk • contribs) 12:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Not done: Until a source is provided showing specifically that Tao Lin's story has affected the corporation.--Aervanath talks like a mover, but not a shaker 21:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Presence in Zimbabwe

Can anyone provide a source for the presence of a McDonald's store in Zimbabwe. I've never come across one in all my time there (that doesn't mean there isn't one but I have been around Zim quite a lot). Mangwanani (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

First Restaurant

Actually the first McDonald's was NOT in San Bernardino. They said this on the Rose Parade, does anyone remember what they said was the first? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.93.182.122 (talk) 00:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Quarter Pounder Shops in Japan

A while back, McDonald's opened up Quarter Pounder shops in Japan. A sort of sleek (relatively speaking) black and red bar look. There was a lot of secrecy leading up to the opening. From what I read, they were supposed to be temporary (to generate 'buzz'), but it seems worth mentioning on here to me (if anything, especially because it didn't get as much coverage in the mainstream media in the U.S. and was covered more by bloggers.) One article that discussed it - http://inventorspot.com/articles/mcdonalds_japan_goes_nobrand_with_quarter_pounder_shops_19505

(Or maybe it should go under the Quarter Pounder entry? But it seems silly to have an entry just for the Quarter Pounder anyway.) ----Lulugo

McDonald's competing with Starbucks for coffee sales

This seems significant enough that it might be worth including. They even have a dedicated website - http://www.unsnobbycoffee.com/ ----Lulugo

Remove Cayman Islands

{{editsemiprotected}} There is no Mcdonalds in the Cayman Islands.

Do you have any way of authenticating your statement? Perhaps a list of McDonalds in the Caribbean or something? NuclearWarfare (Talk) 22:01, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Mc Cafe

Mc Cafe offers Moca Late Cappicino and they offer different flavors of moca. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mstreit44 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Log out and take a look at the McD's page

I just registered here because there seems no way to draw this to your attention without doing so.

When I searched for McDonalds and went to the page, it redirected to one that says "McDonalds sucks, Hungry Jacks is better".

You may want to look into this, because I'm pretty sure it's not the information that you all want up there.

Cheers, Jane :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jane Blogs (talk • contribs) 04:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

It's not hard to notice, but in the introduction it constantly states that it is "the most fattening restaraunt". I cant do anything I'm not a member on Wikipedia. Dark Dedede 20:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.191.108 (talk)

Kazakhstan

There's absolutely no McDonald's in Kazakhstan but why it's placed in Countries with McDonald's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.47.251.182 (talk) 09:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Service at McDonald's

Does McDonald's serve 47 million customers daily? Mbedri1212 (talk) 01:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Environmental efforts

Earlier this week the Times (in the U.K.) had an online article about McDonald's greening efforts. It mentioned that in 2000 it tried its first intentionally "green" restaurant in Sweden and opened a "prototype 'green' restaurant" in Chicago last year that is designed to save energy.

I would like to add this to the environment section of the article, as well as that it is planning to open green restaurants in Brazil, Canada and France and the specific energy efficient steps the Chicago restaurant offers. What is the general consensus, can I add this? Rosestiles (talk) 09:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)rosestiles

YES, this should be added. Since making things 'green' is a priority for everyone (it seems), this would be a good idea to add this. Sweet Pea 1981 (talk) 20:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Pakistan

I like to add this picture of McDonald's in Islamabad, Pakistan. How I do this?

McDonald's in Islamabad, Pakistan

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.73.6.206 (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:American culture

Please add. I'm going for a Big Mac now. 166.217.146.252 (talk) 18:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

You call MacDonald's a part of your "culture"? Nonsense! Spend some 10 years in France, and then you will have a hint of what Culture is! --AVM (talk) 17:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Brunei

{{editsemiprotected}} There's a McDonalds in Brunei - being an independent country this should be added to the list of countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calilover (talk • contribs) 07:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Not done for now: I'd like to see a source first. —Ms2ger (talk) 17:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Not certain how official a source it needs to be, however the following makes mention of at least 2 McDonalds in Brunei: http://www.marimari.com/content/brunei/restaurants/restaurants.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calilover (talk • contribs) 12:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Needs to be a reliable source - like a mention in a newspaper or something.  Chzz  ►  23:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

AP article talking about McDonalds in Brunei:

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-19560798.html

Roayl Brunei subsidiary owning McDonalds in Brunei:

http://www.bruneiair.com/aboutus/subsidiaries.asp

and Wikipedia itself elswhere claiming there is a Brunei in McDonalds:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald's_franchises

Sorry to be awkward about this, but I also googled, and found similar. The problem I have is, I can't see an RS that supports the fact that there is a McD's in Brunei. Re. the refs given;
  • The first is a side-mention in an article about the menu in 1998,
  • The second is a passing mention about the shareholders in McD Brunei but doesn't actually state that there is a restaurant
  • The third is wikipedia, and we can't 'cite' ourselves
As I say, I'm sorry - I personally believe there *is* one, but I can't find an RS to verify the fact, suprising as that is. I'd like to find something saying "McDonalds opens in Brunei" or similar, but have been unable to do so.
Hence, still not done for now. Thanks, and hope you understand why I can't.  Chzz  ►  16:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Error in "Products" section regarding soup

The Products section says that soup is served only in Portugal, but the McDonald's products (international) article says that soup is available in many countries. 67.164.125.7 (talk) 01:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Low Sodium Options

McDonald's pre-cooks burgers, adds salt, and keeps them on hand for a limited period of time so they can be used to prepare sandwiches very quickly. This procedure greatly increases speed but causes the burgers to dry out noticably. If you're willing to wait two or three minutes, you can order your burger with "no salt" and they'll have to cook a patty fresh for you. You get a much juicier burger that way and the sandwich still has considerable salt due to the presence of pickles. You can also add more salt yourself if you wish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.83.97 (talk) 21:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Random musings

I have various information that would definitely be of note and interest to the article but you can bet your bottom dollar you'll never find a WP:RS to support it- I work in a McDs and so have a... unique insight! Also, (again, from my own knowledge- I've seen it!) there's a McDs in Saint Petersburg (Oh, the irony!) which might be worth a mention. Finally, whack "McLenin's" into google for a little comic relief! HJMitchell You rang? 23:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Channel Islands

Where the locations of McDonalds are listed, there are McDonland outlets in Jersey, Channel Islands, as well as Guernsey. These should be added. Also the gray dots in the image of outlets is gray, where in fact it should be in color for the Channel Islands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.112.157.162 (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Simplot

Simplot is the suplier of McDs but is not mentioned in the article. in the Simplot article it is mentioned. --70.253.189.141 (talk) 22:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Image gallery

There is already a link in the external links section called "Worlds Biggest McDonald's Photo Collection" which already contains most if not all the images displayed in the gallery section. I've tagged it for now. Propose that the image gallery section be trimmed or removed entirely, per WP:IG. -- OlEnglish (Talk) 23:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

No. They're free, and they're different from each other. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 10:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Corporate Logo?

Didn't McDonald's change their corporate logo to just the golden arches without the word "McDonalds" like a decade ago? This page seems dated with an 80s era logo at the top.--CastAStone//₵₳$↑₳₴₮ʘ№€ 20:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

McDonalds

perhaps information should be added about McDonalds and sustainable practices such as McDonald's is the largest purchaser of beef in the U.S. and beef production generates more greenhouse gases than any other food product. And maybe McDonald's efforts to combat this.

Also a reference to the film Food, Inc. might be helpful —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.107.9.74 (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

How did you make your template?

How did you make your template for all the assets and industries.. ect? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.151.87.149 (talk) 11:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

New logo

Why you put the "I'm Lovin It" image on the McDonald's article? Instead, use the 80s McDonald's logo with the word "McDonald's" on the golden arches.Mac Tonight (talk) 11:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Because this is the current logo, not the 1980's one. That's generally how things go. --12.18.213.161 (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm loving it is an ad tag line, not a logo. The logo at the top of the article is the corporate logo, not the advertising logo or the store logo. Since this article is actually about McDonald's corporation and not the local McD's restaurant, that is what we use. Also, please read WP:Common name before asking why isn't the article called McDonald's Corporation. --Jeremy (blah blah) 18:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

McContract

McDonald's Corporation will recognize MANY trademarks such as Always Quality. Always Fun., America’s Favorite Fries, Arch Deluxe, Aroma Café, Automac, Big Mac, Big N’ Tasty, Big Xtra!, Birdie, the Early Bird and Design, Black History Makers of tomorrow, Bolshoi Mac, Boston Market, Cajita Feliz, Changing The Face of The World, Chicken McGrill, Chicken McNuggets, Chicken Selects, Chipotle Mexican Grill, Cuarto De Libra, Did Somebody Say , Donatos Pizza, emac digital, Egg McMuffin, Extra Value Meal, Filet-O-Fish, French Fry Box Design, Fruit Buzz, Gep Op Mac, Golden Arches, Golden Arches Logo, Good Jobs For Good People, Good Times. Great Taste., Gospelfest, Great Breaks, Grimace and Design, Groenteburger, HACER, Hamburglar and Design, Hamburger University, Happy Meal, Happy Meal Box Design, Have You Had Your Break Today?, Healthy Growing Up, Helping Hands Logo, Hey, i'm lovin' it, It Could Happen!, "it's what i eat and what i do", Iam Hungry and Design, Immunize for Healthy Lives, Kiwiburger, Lifting Kids To A Better Tomorrow, Mac Attack, Mac Jr., Mac Tonight and Design, McDonald’s Racing Team Design, Made For You, McBaby, McBacon, McBurger, McBus, McCafe, McChicken, McDia Feliz, MCDirect Shares, McDonaldland, McDonald’s , McDonald’s All American High School Basketball Game, McDonald’s All American High School Jazz Bank, McDonald’s All Star Racing Team, McDonald’s Building Design, McDonald’s Earth Effort, McDonald’s Earth Effort Logo, McDonald’s Express, McDonald’s Express Logo, McDonald’s Is Your Kind of Place, McDonald’s Means Opportunity, McDouble, McDrive, McExpress, McFamily, McFlurry, McFranchise, McGriddles, McGrilled Chicken, McHappy Day, McHero, McJobs, McKids, McKids Logo, McKroket, McMaco, McMemories, McMenu, McMusic, McNifica, and McNuggets. Mac Tonight (talk) 13:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

"Arguments in defense of McDonalds

I am concerned that the "defense" section does not cover many of the problems presented in the "controversy" section. Can someone do something about this? 71.104.128.45 (talk) 03:45, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't McDonald's logo changed with more recent one, other than that old logo? tablo (talk) 22:59, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Again, that is the corporate logo not the restaurant logo. The article is about the company, so we are using that one. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


Ahem, I just visited the McDonalds Corporate site an they are using the "background-less" logo on all of their corporate paperwork, pres releases, ect. Thos older red logo ha been in use since 2003 see the McDonalds corporate timeline here (year 2003, milestone # 4) their latest press release regarding a global packaging re-design uses this new logo! The older logo has be used for over 50 years, this new one ash Ben in use for almost 5, whats sad is we are having a huge argument over this when the logo is existentially the same, MacDonalds corp, just decided to get rid of the background, similar to when apple computer changed their logo form a rainbow apple to a monochrome logo or when dell decided to put the dell logo inside a circle, the concept is still conveyed by the image, and it is still a logo copyrighted by McDonalds corporation --Koman90 (talk) 01:43, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
The logo that has been used does not stand up to the standards of WP:Logos as it is a photoshopped logo that adds the tag line of "I'm loving it" to the image. This violates the standards of that policy. Furthermore your claim about the McDonald's site making the claim you are espousing is false, the time line page makes no such statement. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 02:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

'Engrish' choice

  • I notice that this page has conflicting styles, with 'globalization' written also 'globalisation' in even the same section. My suggestion is to adopt one style or the other. My personal vote is EN-US as EN-UK is 1) grating on my eyes, 2) this is an American based company and is commonly seen as a stand-in for America's global presence and 'the American way' often in a negative light... but either way. In any case as is this article is in violation of WP:Manual_of_Style#Internal_consistency. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.248.117 (talk) 20:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

i cant edit mcdonald's :(

why i cant edit this page while i can edit taco bell, pizza hut, etc.? 71.188.34.157 (talk) 18:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC) wtf?

Because anonymous IP edits are blocked on this page due to high incidents of IP vandalism. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

204.17.31.126 (talk) 21:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)McDonald's is not a "steak holder" in CMG. It is a "stakeholder." Thanks!

The "steak holder" joke has been fixed. Is there anything else? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
It wasn't a joke, it was a really stoopid typo by some one who doesn't pay attention to details. and I have absolutely no idea who did it! None what so ever, nope can't figure it out. I guess I'll be leaving now... --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedee

... is missing from this article. :( Maikel (talk) 08:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal

The merge template was already on McDonald's urban legends but not on this page. I think it should stay as a separate article as it is clearly talking about quite a specific topic. Smartse (talk) 01:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

God yes. Doesn't need to be here. Perfectly reasonable split. I'm removing the tag. -Verdatum (talk) 16:29, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Subway a part of Yum! ?

The second sentence of first paragraph (to do with McDonalds Corporation) implies that Subway is a part of Yum! Is this the case? Honeybadger69 (talk) 20:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

No, Yum only owns Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC, Long John Silvers' (a fast food seafood chain), and A&W All American Foods (although I think Pepsi owns A&W Rootbeer the drink, YUM! is the descendant of Tricon Global Foods, at one time the Pepsi-owned operator of the above chains.) This is why most typically these restaurants serve Pepsi products. Subway is owned by Doctor's Associates.
That being said, the intro paragraph is written idiotically and should be redone. It's not clear from this that YUM! does not own Subway, and it implies that both YUM! and Subway have surpassed McDonalds (I know YUM! is the largest, not sure about Subway/DA). Also it's not clear which one is being referred to as the largest. Basically, the lead sucks. 18:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.113.71.3 (talk)

In The Gallery I Think Someone Should Add The McD's On Pennsylvania Ave. In D.C.

My Dad Took Me To A McD's Near His Work That Had To Floors On The 1st Floor You Ordered And The Top Floor You Ate And There Was A Long Window That Stretched All The Way Around The Floor With The Best View You Can Get Of D.C. I Was Wondering If Anyone Had A Picture Of It. You Don't Have Any In D.C. Yet And You Have Two In Times Square —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.73.182 (talk) 03:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

The Gallery should have a picture of this.

I think the Gallery should have a picture of McDonalds at Chessington World of Adventures. Picture: http://www.cwoainsider.co.uk/rideguide/photo.php?picture=1718 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.173.149 (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it's relevant because Roy Kroc was big on uniformity and that defies that heavy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.73.182 (talk) 03:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I added this picture http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:McDonaldsBootsAnleger.jpg to the German Wikipedia, showing a pier of a McDrive restaurant in Hamburg, Germany. I am not confirmed yet, so maybe someone else could add the photo to this gallery. MGeek (talk) 16:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

World's largest fastfood chain

"McDonald's Corporation (NYSE: MCD) is the world's largest chain of hamburger fast food restaurants, serving nearly 47 million customers daily.[3] At one time it was the largest global restaurant chain, it has since been surpassed by multi-brand operator Yum! (KFC, Taco Bell and others) and sandwich chain Subway."

The issue about Subway not being part of Yum! and the misleading nature of the sentence structure has already been discussed earlier. Hope someone who can edit does something about it!

My clarification though, is about the term "largest global restaurant chain". How is it measured? The last I checked McDonald's has more employees, and made more revenue. Can someone please verify?

Cheers!

Johnwuek (talk) 06:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC) John Wu

Marketing Activites.

What are the marketing activities of McDonalds? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.39.167 (talk) 09:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

edit request - october 19, 2009

{{editsemiprotected}} article only provides McDonalds.com (in "infobox" and "external links" sections) which bizarrely (to this editor anyway) appears (at this writing anyway) to be the Uniform Resource Locator (URL) for a rather-limited mobile-web version of the company's site. unless this editor missed it, such mobile-web version fails to provide any link to the corporate section or even to the normal non-mobile-web version. thus, please

  • emend the current entry "McDonalds.com" to read "McDonalds.com, official Mobile Web site"
  • add to (1) "infobox" and (2) "external links" sections "aboutmcdonalds.com, official corporate site"
  • add to (1) "infobox" and (2) "external links" sections "mcdonalds.com/usa.html, home page of official United States website" N.b. "html" is required to get the URL to work (for the u.s. version). also, this editor couldn't seem to decode quickly the format style to get other countries, but at least this gets a user into a regular website and not a limited mobile version. the canadian version is already in the "eternal links" section.

thanks.--98.113.187.11 (talk) 14:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I honestly don't see the linked site as being a mobile-only site. It seems to be the same full-fledged website for the company. Angryapathy (talk) 14:16, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Only the main website should be linked.  Not done at 22:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC) by  Btilm 

edit request - october 22, 2009

{{editsemiprotected}} Add that Suriname has a McDonald's! It has one and the article shows that it doesn't have on currently! Source is a picture on Google Earth.

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 Done

Bloomberg reporting MCDs has closed in Iceland.

Does that mean it would be better to change it to 118 countries???

McDonald’s Closes in Iceland After Krona Collapse (Update1)

CaribDigita (talk) 02:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

add information related to McDonald's coffee drinks

After this sentence: McDonald's primarily sells hamburgers, cheeseburgers, chicken products, french fries, breakfast items, soft drinks, milkshakes, and desserts. In response to obesity trends in western nations and in the face of criticism over the healthiness of its products, the company has modified its menu to include such healthier alternatives as salads, wraps and fruit.

I think this should be added: In the summer of 2009, McDonald’s began selling specialty coffee drinks such as mochas and lattes nationally. The chain now competes with Starbucks, Dunkin’ Donuts and other coffee purveyors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigrow (talk • contribs) 05:23, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

McDonald's and PaRappa the Rapper 2?

Now I may sound crazy, but according to the article on Beard Burger Master from PaRappa the Rapper 2, "In a promotional demo of the game made for McDonald's, his restaurant is depicted as a McDonald's restaurant." I wonder if this is true. --Angeldeb82 (talk) 19:22, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Are we going to help McDonalds greenwash this article by changing the logo to green? F (talk) 12:30, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Um. No. Perhaps you want to explain yourself better? -Verdatum (talk) 07:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Now I see. From your edit log, you're talking about this news item. It's not a change of it's official logo; just a few branches. So it might be appropriate to discuss at Golden Arches, but not really needed here. As far as claims of greenwashing, that appears to fail Wikipedia's Neutrality policy. -Verdatum (talk) 07:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit request

{{editsemiprotected}} The following paragraph should be added to the bottom of the “Environmental record” section within “Controversies”:

McDonald's scored 30/100 on ClimateCounts.org's [1] Climate Counts Company Scorecard Report [2], which “provides people with an objective, balanced way to gauge which of the world’s most well-known consumer companies are seriously committed to reversing climate change.” This is an increase of 3 points from 2008 [1]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.87.171.201 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 9 December 2009

Not done: Welcome and thanks for contributing. That does more to advertise the group than it does to improve the article, don't you think? Celestra (talk) 05:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Time for a logo change, corporate is using this new logo, so don't revert

the new "backgroundless" logo ha be in use for almost five years now Here is a press release form 2008 depicting the new logo i am mentioning i have made countless efforts to change the logo between then and now and it has not Ben changed, i am making one last attempt to upload a vector version of this logo, this is becoming so irritating it makes me almost want to quit editing the Wikipedia as i feel my contributions are not appreciate as i receive no responce form anyone other than the orphaned media bots. Please leave the logo. Thanks

CompTIA

A+

Koman90 (Talk),
A CompTIA A+ Certified IT Technitian
You need to do this properly, your repeated attempts are incorrect as the image you are trying to use is a tag line not a logo. Every time you have done this it has been deleted. You need to open a discussion and move from there. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 01:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I Took the time to correct this problem by re-creating the logo from an image search, vectorized it and re-uploading it as File:Mcdonalds-90s-logo.svg as it is a historic logo for the McDonald's corporation. I also placed in the article stating it was the logo used until the "late 1990s to early 2000s". I will flag with more caution in the future after this lesson so that this mess will not occur again. I also send my greatest personal apologies to Jeremy for reacting so poorly to his comments. Thank You
CompTIA

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Koman90 (Talk),
A CompTIA A+ Certified IT Technitian 
03:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Gallery

The gallery should have a picture of:

1) The flagship Uk restaurant which is unlike any other restaurant appearance wise (http://www.besthousedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/McDonald’s-UK-Restaurant-Interior-Designs-by-SHH-560x442.jpg)

2) A new European concept drive-thru (http://www.hauser-kaibling.at/static/cms/skigebiet/mcdonalds/26.11.09_mcdonalds_haus.jpg) (http://eurokulture.missouri.edu/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/mcdonalds-dissen.jpg) (http://eurokulture.missouri.edu/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/mcdonalds-koeln.jpg)

3) The new McDonald's Sign at Piccadilly (http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/static/img/ourworld/ourworld-piccadilly.jpg) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisloader (talk • contribs) 22:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

If you have free licensed images of those, feel free to upload them to Wikipedia. M.Gray (talk) 17:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Gallery

You have to repair some pictures in the gallery. Especially pictures of McDonald's in Bratislva, Riga and Meknes. It can not be open. --Adam Štef (talk) 18:09, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

They were deleted as copyright violations; I've now removed the broken links. If you think they should be replaced, there is a gallery on Wikimedia Commons that includes several images not in this article, or if you have any suitable images you could upload one, but in my opinion (although I'm not sure if other editors agree) the article already has too many. snigbrook (talk) 18:30, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Friedman quote

Thomas Friedman once said that no country with a McDonald's had gone to war with another.[2] However, the "Golden Arches Theory of Conflict Prevention" is not strictly true. Exceptions are the 1989 United States invasion of Panama, NATO's bombing of Serbia in 1999, the 2006 Lebanon War, and the 2008 South Ossetia War.

Firstly, that's not a proper source. Probably it's just the link that's wrong (i.e. shouldn't be there), but we still deserve at least a chapter or page number. (No secret sources on Wikipedia! I'm so witty.)

More importantly, when did he say that? I've heard it a few years ago, so I doubt a war in 2008 is a proper exception, because the observation would've happened before then!

—Felix the Cassowary 13:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Update figures on customers served daily

New figures are now out for 2009, it is now 60 Million, not the 47 Million suggested in the article. Figures as shown in this BBC News article [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Averagejoe999 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Wizards8507, 2 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

This article states that McDonald's headquarters is "McDonald's Plaza." This is incorrect. I am an employee of McDonald's and I know for a fact that the McDonald's World Headquarters is at 2915 Jorie Blvd in Oak Brook, IL. The Plaza building is about a mile away and is home of the company's UNITED STATES operations.

The World Headquarters for McDonald’s Corporation, known as the Campus Office building, or COB, is a four story building of 704,000 sq ft. Located in Oak Brook, Illinois, COB was designed by architect Dick Lohan and is one of three buildings on a beautiful 80+ acre wooded office campus site. There are two picturesque lakes, 2.5 miles of trails and over 3000 mature trees.

When COB was built in 1988, its design and features were well ahead of its time. It is these design components, combined with subsequent retrofits and upgrades to building mechanical, control, underground parking and lighting systems, that allowed COB to earn the Energy Star Award with a score of 92, an impressive score for a 20 year-old building. In 2001, McDonald’s upgraded the Honeywell building control system and recommissioned the VAV (variable air volume) boxes which control the flow of air throughout the building. To aid in energy efficiency during the spring and fall seasons, an economizer cycle is utilized. The economizer cycle provides free cooling by using outside air to cool the inside of the building. To also aid in the reduction of energy used to control the climate of the building, variable frequency drives, or VFDs, are used on supply fans. This enables fans to ramp up and down to match the heating and cooling demand. Finally, the chillers at COB utilize a chilled water reset control that optimizes chiller efficiency.

Efficiency and energy savings have also been realized in the lighting choices at COB. The upgraded GE Total Lighting Control system controls multi-zone lighting schedules and enables 50% lighting on "McEnergy" (energy alert) days. The building utilizes high efficiency “green tip” fluorescent fixtures and CFL recessed lighting in office space, meeting rooms, and common areas. Conference rooms, restrooms, and storage rooms contain lighting control motion sensors to automatically turn off lights during normal working hours when these spaces are not occupied. The after hours lighting can be activated by employees on an hourly basis. There is currently a pilot in place to test LED lighting applications. COB also has an open office plan which allows access to more natural light and breathtaking views of the campus grounds.


Wizards8507 (talk) 19:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —fetch·comms 21:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

request to fix typo Jan. 24, 2010

The phrase "a clown shaped man having a puffed out costume legs" should be "a clown-shaped man having puffed out costume legs" (or similar). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.219.221.185 (talk) 07:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Done, thanks! —UncleDouggie (talk) 10:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Soup

It should be mentioned that in Portugal you can buy soup at McDonald's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.136.152.161 (talk) 00:23, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Source? —UncleDouggie (talk) 10:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Contemporary_art

I think this link shoudl be added, As I think if we need a link telling us what a PLAYGROUND is then we need a link explaining what CONTEMPORARY ART is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.231.182.113 (talk) 21:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

This is "The encyclopedia that anyone can edit", why not be bold and add the link yourself? --CliffC (talk) 01:51, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Maybe because the page has been semi-protected for 2 years and they were following instructions to post here? I added the link. —UncleDouggie (talk) 10:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

French Fry Lawsuit

This excerpt "after it was revealed that for flavoring purposes a small amount of beef extract was being added to the vegetable oil used to cook the french fries." from the History of McDonalds page should be appended to this excerpt "In 2002, vegetarian groups, largely Hindu and Buddhist, successfully sued McDonald's for misrepresenting their French fries as vegetarian.[27]" on this page to avoid confusion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiiztec (talk • contribs) 15:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Already done. —UncleDouggie (talk) 12:03, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Fbrody, 3 July 2010: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s

{{editsemiprotected}} The information on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s regarding the customers served is obsolete. The source for the number 47 million is (11) ^ a b http://www.mcdonalds.ca/en/aboutus/faq.aspx, retrieved May 8, 2008 and not as stated in the first paragraph (4) ^ "www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.aec4920fe8094fdd0baaeab2ed126bf1.741&show_article=1". http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.aec4920fe8094fdd0baaeab2ed126bf1.741&show_article=1..

The number 47 Million customers served appears twice in the entry.

The correct number is 60 Million customers daily in 2009. Source: McDonalds Annual Report 2009; Published Feb 26,2010 http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/etc/medialib/aboutMcDonalds/investor_relations0.Par.6540.File.dat/McD_2009_AR_Final_032910.pdf retrieved July 3, 2010.

Quoting: "Second, our increasingly relevant menu options, com- bined with clear competitive advantages in convenience and value, enabled us to serve 60 million customers per day last year. This is up 2 million from the prior year and a remarkable 14 million more per day compared to 2002." (op. cit. P.1)

Please correct

Thank you

F Brody

Florian Brody (talk) 05:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

We can't add a claim like that based upon the website of the company itself. In the interests of neutrality, instead of this self-published source, could you please try and provide an independent reliable source to verify the fact - for example, a newspaper article. If you can provide one, please use another {{editsemiprotected}}. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  07:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
It's already been update to 58 million based on another source. There's no need to be continuously updating this number. —UncleDouggie (talk) 11:49, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

The map that shows international restaurants is incorrect - Romania appears in a dark blue shade which means the first restaurant was opened after 2000. However, the first McDonald's restaurant was opened on 16th of june 1995 as it is even stated on the Romania website. Cristian Malița (talk) 18:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Appears to have already been done. —UncleDouggie (talk) 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Toys

Is it widely reported that McDonald's is the worlds largest distributor of toys. On one hand this is believable as they are the largest user of virtually everything they consume (burgers, chicken, potatos, eggs, etc.) On the other hand I can not find a reputable source for that claim. If we could find number of happy meals sold, then it is reasonable to assume that $1 to $1.5 of the sales price is due to the toy, and compare that to toy sales at Walmart and Toys-r-Us.

I found a source and added the information. —UncleDouggie (talk) 11:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Expansion

Derdak+Pederson(2004) contains corporate ownership information and history that is not yet in this article. Uncle G (talk) 18:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

MK

Please somebody put inside language link - mk:Мекдоналдс Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.157.4.172 (talk) 09:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Image Text

Under the McDonald's logo in the sidebar, there is a line of text:|200px|alt=Burger King Whopper combo]]. I can't find this text when I edit the page. Can anyone else find and remove it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Celebith (talk • contribs) 08:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. I reverted a recent bad edit to the 'McDonald's' template used in the infobox. --CliffC (talk) 15:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

McDonalds (UK) Drive Thru

The article states that "Merry Hill Shopping Centre" is the location of the first Drive Thru in the UK, this is not correct. The first McDrive in the UK is located at Fallowfield, Greater Manchester. They were both opened in 1986 but Fallowfield is recognised by McDonald's as the first (both in its internal staff magazine "MDUK" and also by store number (Fallowfield = UK Store# 206 / Dudley - Merry Hill = UK Store# 221).

History of UK McDonalds on Caterersearch also states Fallowfield as being first - see http://www.caterersearch.com/Companies/33902/mcdonalds-restaurants-ltd.html

Datajammer (talk) 23:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC) Anthony Lloyd

I changed it to reflect your request. The link you gave, however, is a dead link. Bulldog73 (talk) 01:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, it's not a dead link. Bulldog73 (talk) 02:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Stuff to archive

WhisperToMe (talk) 08:28, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Where should this be archived? Bulldog73 (talk) 02:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

MacDonald not First anymore

The article states that MacDonald is the largest fast food operator. According to latest news Subway took the first position about the number of restaurants worldwide according to this article. But Macdonald is still the leader on the number of sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BTCcoolermaster (talk • contribs) 04:32, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

infobox way too wide

On my screen, the infobox (main one in the intro) takes up like 80% of the frame. Does anyone else see this and/or know how to fix it? --74.138.214.5 (talk) 04:24, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Today it's fixed. Thanks! --74.138.214.5 (talk) 02:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Quorn Burgers?

I remember a few years ago the McDonald's menu had a vegetarian Quorn burger but I was too young to remember when exactly. What happened to it, why was it taken off the menu? Maybe thought this could be put in to the article, just an idea, perhaps someone could expand it? StuffBadK (talk) 08:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Documentaries issue...

Was concerned to see that while Supersize Me is mentioned, despite it's lack of objectivity or substantiation to it's claims (which incidentally and unfortunately places it squarely within the defined criteria of propaganda) there is no mention of Fathead...? This makes no sense to me, as Fathead provides an objective study with clear substantiation of iots findings as opposed to Supersize Me, which is an overtly agenda-motivated and unsubtantiated study (Spurlock himself has admitted to this...)

Anyway I'm not looking to open discussion on the issues here, just wondering why Fathead is obscured from mention...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.150.117.215 (talk) 12:31, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WarrenOutsky (talk • contribs) 22:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Request to change "midget"

The article uses the word "midget" in a caption under Controversies. This word is demeaning and unnecessary. Please remove it.

It was posted that way last October 29, by David Shankbone, who presumably took the picture. I've changed it from "midget" to "small". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Comment Not even sure that we need any qualifier there; is it of any relevance to the section? OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
You may be right. I think Shankbone was trying to make a point of some kind. Go to that picture's page and see the link to Midget Strippers or some such goofy thing. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that; I'm thinking that while it would be relevant to describe the details of that protest in the PETA article, just seems kind of extraneous here. Not a big deal either way, just that "small" seems kind of awkward then easter-eggs to Midget. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
I removed the reference, and now it just says "a PETA protester". The fact of them being midgets seems to have no relevance. If someone can show why it's relevant, that could be another matter. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Any reliable source about Super size being continued?

Here in Las Cruces, NM you can still (in 2011) get your McDonald's meal super sized and I was wondering if there were any reliable sources regarding the option still being available. Also are there any reliable sources regarding the equivalent in other chains (king size for Burger King and Whatasize for Whataburger)?--BruceGrubb (talk) 12:16, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Not that I have seen either. WarrenOutsky (talk) 17:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Sources

WhisperToMe (talk) 06:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

McRib

I think there should be something about the MCRib in this article. Although they do not sell it all the time, it's the best thing they have. I am happy to do research on this and find sources if anyone else agrees here. WarrenOutsky (talk) 19:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Since nobody agrees I am going to be adding some content around this. Thanks. WarrenOutsky (talk) 20:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

1955 Burger

I don't know how widespread the sales are, but in Sweden they are currently selling a "1955 Burger". To quote from the ad (info all currently available at http://www.mcdonalds.se [4] :

"1955 is a really good burger with grilled onions, crisp lettuce and a tasty BBQ sauce, served in bread with sesame seeds. Naturally, made of 100% beef, nothing else. A burger with a taste of the good old days! Together with the hamburger in 1955, you can enjoy tasty and crispy French fries with barbecue spice Shaker Fries." Henry9201 (talk) 10:14, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. Did they sell it in the US under a different name?108.23.147.17 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:57, 26 September 2011 (UTC).

Discrepancy in Number of Employees

In the Facts and Figures sub-section of the Corporate overview section, it mentions McDonald's employing over 1.5 million people, whereas the infobox at the top of the page lists 400,000. Can someone look into this inconsistency and correct it?

Cheers, Zadora13 (talk) 08:19, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

I looked it up. I think the 1.5 million number is far closer to accurate. Do you want me to change the box? WarrenOutsky (talk) 18:00, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Ok. I will go ahead and make the change then. WarrenOutsky (talk) 22:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

This is weird. Cannot figure out how to change. Anyone else want to? WarrenOutsky (talk) 22:27, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

It is an info box that has been linked from Template:Infobox McDonald's. Before you make the change, remember that the number of employees is for McDonald's Corporation and not its franchises. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 07:04, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Good point, thanks. we should leave it alone.Warren (talk) 00:17, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.22.185.218, 24 August 2011

In the "History" section please correct White Castle to White Castle

92.22.185.218 (talk) 21:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Done Topher385 (talk) 22:13, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.165.101 (talk) 10:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Golden Arches

where is the biggest golden arches in the world what dimension where are they — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.78.2 (talk) 10:02, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

No idea. Not sure that fits in the article though. Warren (talk) 17:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Merging McDonald's and McHappy Day

I've proposed merging McDonald's and McHappy Day. The article for McHappy Day is small enough to fit in this article. I believe that the article can just be a section. Also, there is no need of an article that small if there is a page that it can merged to. JC Talk to me My contributions 02:48, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Company origins

The claim that "the company began in 1940 as a barbecue restaurant" strikes me as inaccurate - the 'company' (that is, McDonald's Corporation) was not founded until 1955, hence the company did not 'begin' until this time. Before then it was just a small business. Also, does anybody have a citation for the claim that McDonald's began as a 'barbecue restaurant'?

For the sake of accuracy the second sentence should therefore revert to "Headquartered in the United States, the corporation was founded by businessman Ray Kroc in 1955 after he purchased the rights to a small hamburger chain operated by the eponymous Richard and Maurice McDonald."

Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amnesiac86 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

It depends on how you define it. The corporation began in 1955, and the official website mentions the McDonald brothers, of course, but does not go into detail about their own operation. Their own history strikes me as "background". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:12, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

McWorld

It is a social organization for kids and provided by McDonald's- accessible from the Happy Meal site. Anyway, it should be included! Also, can the creator of this resourceful article please add a link to the McWorld page; I can't access it as it is encrypted!!!!! Farfaraway269269 (talk) 22:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Sources

WhisperToMe (talk) 02:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Corporate overview

The 58 million should be changed to 68 million

Jshan 08 (talk) 03:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)jshan_08

I am happy to make the edit, do you have a source?

Thank u Warren (talk) 16:13, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Warren, the source for the 68 million figure is already listed (source 3). Also the figure of 1.5million employees is contradictory, and I cannot find this number in the given reference. I would edit, but have been editing without account, so unable to for now. Thanks.

Motorwaylander (talk) 18:19, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

As of this edit, the link used in source 3 is dead. The header paragraph of the article and the corporate overview both cite the same dead source with different values (58 vs. 68 million) - Yougottaeat 22:53, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Oh, want me to fix? Warren (talk) 04:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

McDonald's health issues

I am just putting this on here to suggest that the article more directly address the health issues related to McDonald's products. The article seems to dance around the topic and the health issues appear to be treated as other people's "assertions". McDonald's is very detrimental to your health and this has been established numerous times. I think a section specifically about the health effects needs to be created, as there is for sodas, alcohol, tobacco, etc., and this needs to address the facts related to this. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morane12 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

McDonald's is not bad for your health.The place we work at when we don't get a education at least that's what my teachers say but it does make a very good part time job Too much salt, fat, and carbs for your level of physical activity is bad for your health. They are bad for you no matter where you get them. McDonald's is no worse a vendor of crap than anyone else. Do you really want to restate the same nutritional information in every single article for any place that serves or sells any kind of food or drink?

People need to take responsibility to learn about nutrition instead of listening to biased and ill-informed sources that are more interested in getting "eyeballs" than educating people. Advertising has convinced millions of people that you can't eat healthy at McDonald's (or Jack in the Box, Carl's, etc.) and that somehow, the carb- and sodium-laden sandwiches at Subway will make you thin and healthy. Not to mention that MCD's even gave in to the media- and ignorance-induced hysteria by eliminating large cups (even of ultra-low-sodium and -carb diet soda and iced tea) while still offering milkshakes, coffee drinks, and sodas with hundreds to thousands of times the fat and carbs. Even our gummint decided people couldn't handle the concept of carbohydrates and so left out this critical piece of the puzzle when forcing the silly publication of nutritional information on menus, making it look like there is no difference between a 240-calorie chicken breast (~0 carbs) and 240 calories of red potatoes (54 carbs).—[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:22, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any specific medical information with sources? Why not start with a section then? Warren (talk) 21:51, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

"McDonald's is very detrimental to your health" — According to who? Like User:WarrenOutsky said, if you have the medical information with sources, add the info. But you can't just add a section because of what you hear or because of your stance toward the company. --Major optics (talk) 13:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Anyone ever find anything legitimate on the claim? My suspicion is that there are issues with the food, because it is so fattening. However, I just read some stories where Doctors are making general statements about sponsorship by McDonald's in the Olympics. Not sure if this is ok to add? Warren (talk) 18:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Any thoughts on this, anyone? I know with the Olympics coming up it may become relevant story again. Warren (talk) 21:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
After this long it is probably tabled. I will update if i see anything Warren (talk) 18:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Why do you want to single out McDonald's? Are they mis-representing something (like Subway is)? Why do you think they are any worse than any other server of the same kind of food, including your favorite local restaurant, or, for that matter, people's own kitchens? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, AlanM1. Warren (talk) 00:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion: Merge out the stub article "Golden Arches"

The article Golden Arches is a stub, and I don't think it has any real future as an independent article. I suggest someone (with more interest in the matter than I have) merge it out of existence - I think parts might be a good addition, as a separate section, to this article, and/or to the History of McDonald's, to the extent there is not duplication. In any case, the stub is a bit of an orphan, and would be more useful if part of the main article and/or history article.

That stub is now more mergeable because I removed the article text related to international conflict, adding it to Democratic peace theory#"Golden Arches Theory of Conflict Prevention". I did this because this article had two completely different subjects. The first half (now simply the remaining text) was about architecture/design/branding. The second half was about international conflict. The two had nothing to do with each other except that Thomas Friedman used the phrase "Golden Arches" as a shorthand for "MacDonald's restaurants". -- John Broughton (♫♫) 03:36, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it a "stub", but it does seem reasonable to merge it pretty much intact into History of McDonald's. Retaining it as a redirect, of course. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:37, 13 October 2012 (UTC)


Cultural References

Anyone else feel like this section should be deleted? Someone saying McDonald's in a song doesn't seem important enough to have in the article. The section only has 2 references and there are considerably more than that, so deletion seems like the best option. 98.250.176.66 (talk) 20:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Straw in Beer?

That picture of the (c)McBeer(tm)(R) in Germany surely doesn't have a straw protruding from the plastic cup?

I wasn't convinced McD's was really evil until I saw this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.253.126.76 (talk) 00:57, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Let's keep this discussion related to the article. Warren (talk) 19:02, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted to say, that not every McDonald's in Germany sells beer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.75.205.229 (talk) 20:01, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

"Combo"/combination meals

Jonathan Kay suggests here [3] that McDonald's did not really do combo meals (where a sandwich, fries and a drink are sold together under the term "meal") before the 1980s. These days, it is rare for someone NOT to order a meal at McDonald's. Does anyone know exactly when this switch in emphasis from individual menu items to meals occurred? It definitely warrants inclusion in the article. Farrtj (talk) 19:40, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

No clue, but I agree we should include that. This site says it was 1979. I am not sure we can use that source though. Warren (talk) 18:35, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

I feel like it was the mid 90s when that changed. I can research more.

Mr. IP editor - Come on now, that's not what this page is for. Warren (talk) 19:19, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

On November 2012, McDonald's announced that their global revenue sales had dropped by 1.8% for the first time in ten years. Other franchise companies such as Burger King and Wendies are being a real threat to the company, as they make the global competition more intense. Although McDonald's is one of the number one leading fast food store, there are many companies that are climbing their way up the global market. McDonald's plans on changing their menus such as lowering the price or in the case of stores in Asia, adjusting the taste of the food to meet the local people's preferences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtwzz1206 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok now your just being weird. Warren (talk) 20:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

McDonald's in Bolivia

Terraflorin (talk) 05:50, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Add new paragraph under "Legal cases" for Tecoma case.

In July 2013, McDonald's served an injunction against eight local residents who were protesting the construction of a new McDonald's 24-hour restaurant in Tecoma, Australia, a small town in the foothills of the Dandenong Ranges in outer Melbourne. The injuction seeks to prevent the eight from trespassing and stopping trucks from accessing the site. McDonald's is also seeking damages for delays in construction, loss of sales, and employment of security guards. The store was originally rejected by the local Yarra Ranges Shire Council, but was later approved by the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal after McDonald's challenged.[5] --Rkelly1brd (talk) 08:39, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't see why this should be added. There are always complaints about McDonalds - or indeed any large corporation - opening a store/restaurant or whatever somewhere. This is undue weight and publicity to what is essentially a small local catfight between both the activists and McDonalds themselves. It scores way below the other legal cases outlined in that section. I'm with TatRattis on this one, and would remove it - although I wouldn't go as far as to call it "vandalism". Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Agreeing with Chaheel on this. There are so many and this doesn't seem noteworthy. Warren (talk) 18:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Strike?

Can we include something about the fast food strikes? Bumblebritches57 (talk) 18:09, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Are they relevant to McDonald's specifically or the industry as a whole? —C.Fred (talk) 18:30, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Both, obviously there's an undercurrent around the whole industry, but McDonalds is seen as the face of the industry to the media. Bumblebritches57 (talk) 20:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I think we should add something about the recent strikes. As this happened all over the country, its not just a local squabble. It gained major media attention, so by adding this to the article, it brings things up to date. also, theres not much on the working conditions for employees besides the link on the zero hour contract. The strikes bring to light that the conditions are less than suitable. RedPJs (talk) 19:29, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

McD used Pink Slime until 2011

Philip Brasher. "Questions, perception prompt burger chains to ditch product", ArgusLeader, December 24, 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.39.99.66 (talk) 17:03, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Is that really true???? Warren (talk) 01:21, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
See [4] 76.10.128.192 (talk) 12:10, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

It is true. Should we add a picture of the pink slime to the article? This picture specifically was linked with McDonald's. http://mommacuisine.com/2012/02/06/mcdonalds-pink-slime/ RedPJs (talk) 19:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC) Another thought, the fact that Mcdonald's stopped using pink slime should be in the second paragraph of Arguements in Defence because it ties in with how the company is trying to become more health conscience. RedPJs (talk) 19:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Photos

This article is overloaded with photos. I suggest we create a gallery to host the various images of stores around the world. This should help reduce the clutter. Thoughts? Rklawton (talk) 02:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Word change

Change chicken to chicken nuggets, due to the fact that Nugget avian better represents McDonald's than actual chicken. Jovian atmosphere (talk) 05:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: that is original research, and dubious. --Stfg (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants

The content in the Mcdonald's page on the Liebeck v. McDonald's is inaccurate and unfair, the page Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants and the video here are enough proof.

For starters the clause "several million dollars" is untrue since the judge reduced it to $640,000, which was appealed and settled for even less than that. MTayel (talk) 01:56, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2014

yy 206.193.210.67 (talk) 17:16, 8 January 2014 (UTC)yyuyuyyuyuyu

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Nonsense

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2013

Under Employment Practices

On December 26, 2013, amid growing criticism from the media for offering advice that was out of touch with its workers’ pay, McDonald's shut down its McResource website. One of its most embarrassing "tips", CNBC reported last week that the McResource website discouraged eating fast food as part of its tips for healthy living. Despite shutting down the website, McDonald's said it plans to continue an internal telephone help line which employees can access its work-life help resources. [6]

Lesliegb2007 (talk) 22:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: Although this page is semi-protected, your user rights currently allow you to edit it yourself. CarnivorousBunnytalk • contribs 23:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
To be fair, he did not become autoconfirmed until after the 26th. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:20, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2014

I would like to fix the link to "Fast Food, Poverty Wages: The Public Cost of Low-wage jobs in the Fast Food Industry", a good link is: http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/publiccosts/fast_food_poverty_wages.pdf Hawkegg (talk) 18:46, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Done Change made. Actually, it was as simple as removing a slash and period from the end of the URL within the link. —C.Fred (talk) 18:57, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2014

For the international section, McDonald's Canada now serves poutine 216.104.106.161 (talk) 23:00, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor Sing 07:26, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2014

Bernadino is misspelled. 99.47.245.214 (talk) 17:50, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

 Not done San Bernardino, California is totally correct - Arjayay (talk) 18:31, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2014

McDonald's is not anymore the world largest food chain, that's Subway. It also should be mirrored to others languages of Wikipedia. Elkomic (talk) 07:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Does it say that it's the largest? All i can see is

"largest chain of hamburger fast food restaurants" Cannolis (talk) 09:48, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

"drive-through service"

:Most standalone McDonald's restaurants offer both counter service and drive-through service...

This statement needs to be regionalised. Certainly it is untrue in the UK, where drive-through facilities are relatively uncommon. 86.160.86.83 (talk) 13:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, you may wish to ignore this. According to an article,[5] there are 760 drive-throughs in Britain, versus 1200 "restaurants" in total, give or take [6]. So, it seems I was wrong. 86.160.86.83 (talk) 14:35, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2014

i will help people learn about mcdonald'sin new ways Iamnothotdog (talk) 02:12, 16 September 2014 (UTC)love my body

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 02:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
  1. ^ http://www.justmeans.com/usercontent/companydocs/docs/company_docs_1260225635.pdf
  2. ^ "The Lexus and the Olive Tree". thomaslfriedman.com. Accessed June 4, 2007.
  3. ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8475860.stm
  4. ^ http://mcdonalds.se
  5. ^ http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mcdonalds-uses-fear-tactic-say-tecoma-eight-20130722-2qerx.html
  6. ^ AP (26 December 2013). "McDonald's Closes Employee Website Amid Criticism". Daily Digest. Retrieved 26 December 2013.
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