Talk:Kauai Plantation Railway

Kauai Plantation Railway has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: November 16, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Kauai Plantation Railway appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that when construction began on the Kauai Plantation Railway (pictured), "nobody in the crew knew how to build a train track"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kauai Plantation Railway.

United States Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Hawaii Low‑importance

	Hawaii portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hawaii, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Hawaii on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HawaiiWikipedia:WikiProject HawaiiTemplate:WikiProject HawaiiHawaii articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Trains Low‑importance

Trains Portal

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Trains, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to rail transport on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. See also: WikiProject Trains to do list and the Trains Portal.TrainsWikipedia:WikiProject TrainsTemplate:WikiProject Trainsrail transport articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:58, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

A Kauai Plantation Railway train

... that when construction started on the Kauai Plantation Railway, "Nobody in the crew knew how to build a train track"? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ted Decker

Created by Trainsandotherthings (talk). Self-nominated at 19:14, 27 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Starting review. Updates to follow shortly. Ktin (talk) 19:41, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria - recently expanded 5x. Meets length expectations for DYK. No issues with tone. Article has no issues with Copyvio per Earwig. My suspicion is that the newspaper clippings are not searchable via Earwig. Prelim manual comparison does not seem to show any issues. QPQ done. Picture seems to be rightly released. Seems alright at the resolution. Perhaps a closer view might be good, but, this is alright. Overall - nice small article and good to go. Makes me want to go back on a holiday to Kauai. Ktin (talk) 19:51, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ktin:, and thanks for the quick review. If there's a photo you feel would be better within the Commons cat for the railway [2], let me know and we can change the image. I've never been to Hawaii, but writing this article certainly made me want to visit. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:30, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Trainsandotherthings: I like this one. If you like that as well, we could go with that? Alternately I am good to go with your original image. Ktin (talk) 18:44, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I like that one as well, I remember using it on GE 25-ton switcher. Let's go with that one. I've added it to the article and the DYK template. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:49, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Super! My tick already exists on this nomination. So, we should be good. Nice work! Ktin (talk) 18:51, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Terminology[edit]

Is it correct to call this a "heritage railroad" when it was built a few years ago (and not a century or so)? --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A heritage railway or heritage railroad (US usage) is a railway operated as living history to re-create or preserve railway scenes of the past. Please do your research before showing up to critique others' work; I'm getting tired of you trying to poke holes in everything I bring to DYK. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kauai Plantation Railway/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 01:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
· · ·

This is a relatively short article. As such, I don't have many issues with this article. Just a couple of things:

Does this heritage railway have a station stop or something? Perhaps a mention of that would suffice, plus an image of the stop.
There is a station, but I can't find any real coverage of it. You can actually see part of it in the photo in the infobox. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps more details like tourist numbers? Reception of the heritage railway?
I didn't find anything on passenger numbers, but I did find a bit of information that it was received positively by local residents, and I've added this to the article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wish the lead could be fluffed up more, but given this is a short article, the lead seems fine.
I've expanded the lead. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Any other notable incidents during its operations?
I searched for anything on accidents, but I didn't find anything. Seems they've been running a safe railroad. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's all for now.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, @ZKang123: I think I've responded to everything know. Let me know if you have any further comments. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No other outstanding problems I can find for this article. Issues raised are satisfactorily explained or addressed.--ZKang123 (talk) 00:18, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]