Talk:Da Hong Pao

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Oolong[edit]

Da Hong Pao ABSOLUTELY is an oolong tea. Oolong teas are partially oxidized (10% - 80% +/-) It is NOT fermented - it is oxidized (and black teas, or "red teas" in Chinese (Hong Cha) are not fully oxidized either but they are highly oxidized and the manufacturing is done in a manner to encourage this. Oolongs are oxidized by bruising the edges of the tea leaves. They also may be (and Da Hong Pao is) highly roasted (traditionally over charcoal) or not (as with modern styled Tie Guanyin.) As to the name, if one understands the name in the context of history, the best rendition likely is "Scarlet Robe." "Big Red Robe" is a modern rendition of the characters that does not account for historical context and usage. 99.60.150.101 (talk) 06:29, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Price of this tea[edit]

According to this article and this historical exchange rate tool, 20g of the original leaves were sold for nearly $22000 2002-US dollars, putting the price at over $1M per kilogram. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimworm (talk • contribs) 09:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

English Name for this tea[edit]

I believe the more commonly used English name for Da Hong Pao is "Red Cloak Tea" whereas "Large Red Robe" is simply a direct translation from Mandarin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.223.195 (talk) 05:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And "Large red Robe" is not a good translation from classical Chinese. "Da hong" is crimson. In fact the Yellowbridge dictionary has crimson as a translation today too. Colin McLarty (talk) 02:59, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oolong[edit]

Some online tea shops have marketed Da Hong Pao as an oolong--it is unclear whether their varieties are not fully fermented as traditional Da Hong Pao tea is or they have errors on their sites.[3]

As far as I know, da hong pao IS an oolong. The source cited is a store marketing it as an oolong. Does anyone claim otherwise? (Note that just because the name contains "hong" does not mean it's hongcha. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.140.244 (talk) 02:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Da hong pao is an oolong tea. It is one of the "si da ming cong", indeed. I never tasted the "original" production (several thousand dollars for few grams) but I often drink the "cloned" ones, which are manufactered to be as similar to the original as possible. It is a yancha (rock tea) oolong, so it is somehow eavily oxidized with respect to the now widespread high-mountain oolongs from Taiwan, however it is not a black (=red, in chinese) tea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.25.129.18 (talk) 11:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gift to Nixon[edit]

Does anyone know if this story is true? "When President Nixon visited China in 1972, he was given 50g as a gift. His anger brewing, it was explained to him that this was half of China’s reserves at the time and was worth, in today’s money, about $250,000." http://en.foodie.fm/blog/2011/9/8/5-foods-you-should-try-if-you-win-the-lottery.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.6.32 (talk) 23:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Extensive efforts to find any documentation failed, as described at http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?p=219327 Colin McLarty (talk) 19:46, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistencies[edit]

As it stands, the article says there were four original bushes and six of them still exist, which is obviously nonsensical. Needs editing. Liuzhou (talk) 06:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Evaluation[edit]

This article is too brief and needs more details. One of the sources in the citation is from a website, which is not a reliable source. It needs more reliable sources to rich its content. LinearBicycle (talk) 03:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]