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June 6, 2024[edit]

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  • Parachromis managuensis → Jaguar cichlid – (Discuss) – So, the last time a name change for this article has been discussed was back in 2007 (see "article title" up above). This article used to be named "Managuense cichlid," but was later changed to the Latin name and current title, Parachromis managuensis, on the basis that it was the least ambiguous epithet for the species. Which is true. Latin names are almost always less ambiguous than vernacular names, but they're almost never as concise or recognizable - for the same reason we have articles named Great white shark and Largemouth bass rather than Carcharodon carcharias and Micropterus salmoides, I'm going to propose that this article be renamed to Jaguar cichlid. For the WP:CRITERIA of recognizability and naturalness, I present the Google Search results for the names listed in the article's lede (in order from most hits to least): * "jaguar cichlid": ~93,700 results * "parachromis managuensis": ~40,900 results * "jaguar guapote": ~9,680 results * "managuense cichlid": ~8,720 results * "guapote tigre": ~8,640 results * "aztec cichlid": ~4,090 results * "managua cichlid": ~1,470 results * "spotted guapote": ~812 results "Jaguar cichlid" is more than twice as prevalent on the web as the Latin name. It's nearly a full order of magnitude more prevalent than the next most popular vernacular name, "jaguar guapote" - and if that's where we draw the line, then names like "managuense cichlid" and "guapote tigre" aren't even in the running. This is supported by Google Trends, which shows that on average, "jaguar cichlid" is searched for 47 times more than "parachromis managuensis" and "managuense cichlid" worldwide. We should name the article accordingly. Simple as. Kodiak Blackjack (talk) • (contribs) 00:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 22:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hit-Girl & Kick-Ass → Kick-Ass (comic book) – (Discuss) – Series is most commonly known as "Kick-Ass". Even the original "Hit-Girl" miniseries was collected under a "Kick-Ass" title. Mark Millar's official web site mentions "Kick-Ass", but not "Hit-Girl". 2002:620D:3AF:0:F89C:267A:F5A2:2C10 (talk) 22:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Karan Bhushan Singh (politician) → Karan Bhushan Singh – (Discuss) – Seems to be the WP:PRITOP over the existing redirect. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sudhakar Singh (politician) → ? – (Discuss) – Sudhakar Singh is also a politician, so this disambiguation doesn't work. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Italian mafia operations in Atlantic City → Organized crime in Atlantic City – (Discuss) – The organized crime committed in Atlantic City has not always been perpetrated solely by Italians, and other ethnic crime groups are indeed mentioned in the article. I believe the proposed title provides a clearer description of the contents of the article. Shaolin Punk (talk) 21:44, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Love (1991 film) → Love (1991 Indian film) – (Discuss) – Dab from Love (1991 Soviet film) * Pppery * it has begun... 18:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • NewLabour Party (New Zealand) → NewLabour Party – (Discuss) – This was requested ~7 years ago and no consensus was reached. I think it's been enough time to request a new move. WP:SMALLDETAILS was practically created for this type of situation: The general approach is that whatever readers might type in the search box, they are guided as swiftly as possible to the topic they might reasonably be expected to be looking for, by such disambiguation techniques as hatnotes and/or disambiguation pages. When such navigation aids are in place, small details are often sufficient to distinguish topics, e.g. MAVEN vs. Maven; Airplane! vs. Airplane; Sea-Monkeys vs. SeaMonkey; The Wörld Is Yours vs. other topics listed at The World Is Yours. The lack of a space between 'New' and 'Labour' seems more than sufficient enough to distinguish this page from other similar titles. Loytra (talk) 15:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 17:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Highland Council → Highland Council – (Discuss) – Per WP:THE, and to be WP:CONSISTENT with the articles on other Scottish council areas, and other jurisdictions of all sorts generally.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  15:32, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mind control (disambiguation) → Mind control – (Discuss) – Mind control does not necessarily refer to brainwashing, which is specifically referring to a concept of semi-permanent mental manipulation. It can also fall under the banner of hypnosis, a temporary form of mind control, whether in reality or using fictional powers to do so and Manipulation (psychology), secretly messing with someone's mind. It can even include Brain–computer interface, controlling a computer with one's mind. Therefore, there is no clear primary topic for this term and it should not be a primary redirect. (As an addendum; the target page has history, so if the move goes through, it should probably be moved to something that still redirects to brainwashing) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – (Discuss) – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[3] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.

References

  1. ^ Metcalfe, Alex (2022). "Italy, Islam in premodern". In Fleet, Kate; Krämer, Gudrun; Matringe, Denis; Nawas, John; Rowson, Everett (eds.). Encyclopaedia of Islam, Three. Brill. ISBN 9789004161658.
  2. ^ Rizzitano, U. (1978). "Kalbids". In van Donzel, E.; Lewis, B.; Pellat, Ch. & Bosworth, C. E. (eds.). The Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition. Volume IV: Iran–Kha. Leiden: E. J. Brill. p. 496. OCLC 758278456.
  3. ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deadstar (talk) 08:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 3, 2024[edit]

June 2, 2024[edit]

References

  1. ^ Wintle, Bonnie C.; Fraser, Hannah; Wills, Ben C.; Nicholson, Ann E.; Fidler, Fiona (2019-04-17). "Verbal probabilities: Very likely to be somewhat more confusing than numbers". PLOS ONE. 14 (4): e0213522. Bibcode:2019PLoSO..1413522W. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0213522. ISSN 1932-6203. PMC 6469752. PMID 30995242.
  2. ^ van Tiel, Bob; Sauerland, Uli; Franke, Michael; Nicholson, Ann E.; Fidler, Fiona (2022). "Meaning and Use in the Expression of Estimative Probability". Open Mind. 6 (4): 250–263. doi:10.1162/opmi_a_00066. ISSN 2470-2986. PMC 9987346. PMID 36891036.
Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Iṣṭa-devatā (Hinduism) → Ishtadevata – (Discuss) – As WP:ONEOTHER, the Sanskrit term Ishtadevata (IAST: Iṣṭa-devatā) is primarily used in Hinduism vis-a-vis Buddhism where Yidam (from Tibetan) is the popular term (ishtadevata is a ceremonial Sanskrit term). The following generic religion encyclopedias define the term in the Hindu context * An_Introductory_Dictionary_of_Theology p. 651 [18] * Encyclopedia of Love in World Religions:Page 301 - Yudit Kornberg Greenberg · 2007 * Encyclopedia of Spirits and Ghosts in World Mythology - Page 44 (under Devata entry) Theresa Bane · 2016 * The Encyclopedia of Yoga and Tantra - Page 352 Georg Feuerstein · 2022 Encyclopedia of Hinduism - Page 203 - Constance Jones, James D. Ryan · 2006: "Ishta devata (desired divinity) is an important concept in theistic Hinduism." - illustrates its importance in Hinduism Redtigerxyz Talk 14:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Proton (technology company) → Proton AG – (Discuss) – Full company name. Simpler and more concise (WP:CONCISE). Allowed per WP:NCCORP. Strugglehouse (talk) 15:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit! 14:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 1, 2024[edit]

References

  1. ^ Cormen, Thomas H.; Leiserson, Charles E.; Rivest, Ronald L.; Stein, Clifford (2009) [1990]. Introduction to Algorithms (3rd ed.). MIT Press and McGraw-Hill. ISBN 0-262-03384-4.
  2. ^ Alexandrescu, Andrei (2010). The D Programming Language. Upper Saddle River, New Jersey: Addison-Wesley Professional. ISBN 0-321-63536-1. Bentley, Jon (2000). Programming pearls (2nd ed.). Addison-Wesley. ISBN 978-0-201-65788-3.
  3. ^ Knuth, Donald (1998). Sorting and searching. The Art of Computer Programming. Vol. 3 (2nd ed.). Reading, MA: Addison-Wesley Professional. ISBN 978-0-201-89685-5.
IntGrah (talk) 20:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Elapsed listings[edit]

The 7-day listing period has elapsed. Items below may be closed if there's a consensus, or if discussion has run its course and consensus could not be achieved.
  • 1918 Irish general election → 1918 United Kingdom general election in Ireland – (Discuss) – This article is about the portion of the 1918 UK general election which was held in Ireland, similar to December 1910 United Kingdom general election in Ireland. It was not an election to the Dáil Éireann like 1922 Irish general election, as the Dáil Éireann did not exist at the time of the election, but was formed in the aftermath of the election. So the current article title is incorrect. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 23:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Love Stories → Love Stories (film) – (Discuss) – Not particularly notable, averages single-digit daily pageviews. See dabpage at Love Story. 162 etc. (talk) 16:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Anti-Normanism → Normanism – (Discuss) – The article starts with "Anti-Normanism is an opposition to Normanism, the mainstream narrative..." I find it weird that the mainstream theory of Normanism is but a section inside the fringe theory. The article must be moved and reshuffled upside down. - Altenmann >talk 19:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wanna Be (GloRilla and Megan Thee Stallion song) → Wanna Be – (Discuss) – Per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Wanna Be currently redirects to Wannabe (disambiguation). These topics are all titled "Wannabe", with two exceptions: this song, and Wanna Be (single album), which receives essentially no traffic.[32] Wannabe is not known in any reliable sources as "Wanna Be." The two-word spelling is sufficient disambiguation; move song to primary topic, with hatnotes to the single album and dabpage. 162 etc. (talk) 21:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Invertebrate iridescent virus 31 → Iridovirus armadillidium1 – (Discuss) – Renamed by ICTV in 2023. https://ictv.global/taxonomy/taxondetails?taxnode_id=202306334&taxon_name=Iridovirus%20armadillidium1 Grey Clownfish (talk) 09:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sloboda → Sloboda (settlement) – (Discuss) – This word means "freedom" in the original Slavic languages, and while there is a significant usage in Russian and Ukrainian history as well as some usage in modern-day Russian administrative divisions, described at this presumed primary topic, its usage and long-term significance does not actually overshadow the ambiguity over the other uses of the word for the average English reader. In preparation for this move, I went through the list of ~200 incoming links to preemptively disambiguate them. The usage is typically clerical, to explain the strange term, which is most commonly placed in italics. This indicates that the fact that the explanation was directly at "sloboda" was a very easy way to get the etymological explanation. However, that's a possible description of editor behavior, which is not necessarily the reader behavior (WP:RF). It should also be noted that Russian toponymy lists are quite weird from the perspective of a navigation purpose for set indices, with an apparent habit of linking these kinds of terms contrary to what MOS:DABONE would advise. It's not that I'm opposed to having a link somewhere in such a set index to explain the term, but the volume of this skews the statistics. After going through the list, I was left with 19 links (~10%) where I couldn't identify a clear connection to this particular subject. Mostly they seemed to be generic references to the Slavic word for "freedom". This also extended to Russian topics. Some were references to specific places named Sloboda, not the concept. I had also disambiguated numerous others by linking Foobar Svoboda instead of keeping a largely useless partial link (sadly I didn't keep a count of these to be able to note the percentage). A search in Google Books for me does not identify this meaning to be primary - I get more references to people named this way. Likewise for Google Scholar. I don't have reason to believe that this would differ for the average English reader. WikiNav for Sloboda and meta:Research:Wikipedia clickstream archive indicate that the hatnote is consistently one of the most commonly clicked links on the page - even in months where we see a larger readership, it's still among the most commonly clicked links (for example in March '24, with 162 clickstreams to 9 identified destinations, the hatnote was #3 with 17). This is typically indicative of a navigation issue. Another editor reverted the initial preparatory move, thinking this broke links (it did not) and saying this changes a 'long established' status quo - I don't see an actual rationale there. Just because this grew organically as is - doesn't mean it's not subject to evaluation and adjustment. In addition, similar terms like svoboda and swoboda are not short-circuiting here and are indeed disambiguated, so this change would seem to make things more consistent. Joy (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Genocide of Indigenous peoples → Genocide of indigenous peoples – (Discuss) – "Indigenous" is only a proper name when adopted as conventional for a particular ethnic group, and when applied to the specific groups who have done so. As a general, global adjective it is not and cannot be a proper name (any more than the opposite, "colonial"), so should not be capitalized. See in particular the lead paragraph of MOS:CAPS: WP does not capitalize that which is not capitalized consistently across nearly all independent reliable sources, and "indigenous peoples" is not so capitalized (indeed, it is overwhelmingly lowercase [33][34], except in highly retrictive contexts that refer to specific populations who have adopted the term self-referentially as a name in English). This same situation is true of all such terms such as "native" and "aboriginal". "Aboriginal" is capitalized in reference to autochthonous Australians, and "Native" is capitalized in "Native Americans" in reference to the autochthonous peoples of what is now the US and sometimes (in mostly US usage) all of the Americas. But "native" is not capitalized (by the preponderance of modern reliable sources) in reference to Australians, nor "aboriginal" in reference to Americans, and neither is capitalized in "the native (aboriginal) peoples and languages of Siberia and Central Asia before the Soviet Union", etc. PS: There may be other over-capitalized articles of this sort, but perhaps take them one at a time, since some might pertain more narrowly to groups that have taken on "Indigenous" as a self-referential name/label.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC); revised 06:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes → 2022 аttack of Azerbaijan on Armenia – (Discuss) – I have not seen a single reliable source saying that Armenia attacked Azerbaijan. But multiple reliable sources say the opposite. Various sources describe the events as an “invasion”, “offensive”, “attack”, or “assault.” There is consensus that Azerbaijan was the one who initiated the hostilities. Some talk about “Azerbaijan’s Invasion of Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Offensive on Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Attack on Armenia”, but they all agree on one thing: Azerbaijan was the initiator of the clash, and it was Azerbaijan who attacked. Therefore, the title “Attack of Azerbaijan on Armenia” perfectly reflects the vast majority of reliable sources and is the least ambiguous. I will provide the overwhelming evidence below: * Human Rights Watch:  :“The killings took place during fighting between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces that broke out in mid-September, when Azerbaijan made incursions into Armenia...” * Genocide Watch:  :“Azerbaijani military attacks on Armenian territory show Azerbaijani disregard for Armenian sovereignty.” * Freedom House:  :“Freedom House Condemns Azerbaijani Attacks on Armenia”  :“The Azerbaijani armed forces must immediately cease their deadly attacks on Armenian territory” * Axel Gehring, Ph.D., political scientist and expert in the field of foreign and security policy and researcher at the Institute for Critical Social Analysis of the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation in Berlin:  :“On September 13, regular Azerbaijani troops launched a large-scale attack on Armenian territory. This attack took tensions between the countries to a new level.” * Laurence Broers is a specialist in conflicts in the Transcaucasus, founder of the scientific journal Caucasus Survey:  :"Azerbaijan's recent attack seeks to enforce terms in negotiations with Armenia" “ The recent large-scale cross-border attacks inside Armenia by Azerbaijan...” * Maximilian Hess, Research Fellow for Central Asia at the Foreign Policy Institute, in Foreign Policy magazine:  :“Azerbaijani forces who marched into Armenia continue to occupy part of its territory, in particular heights around the town of Jermuk.” * David L. Phillips, conflict analyst in The National Interest:  :“The United States criticized Azerbaijan's recent attacks on Armenia proper” * European Parliament Resolution:  :“Strongly condemns the latest military aggression by Azerbaijan on September 12, 2022 on the sovereign territory of Armenia”  :“calls on the Azerbaijani authorities, therefore, to immediately withdraw from all parts of the territory of Armenia “ * Wojciech Gorecki, senior researcher at the Department of Turkey, Caucasus and Central Asia:  :“in September 2022 Azerbaijan attacked targets located on Armenian territory.” * The Guardian:  : “This week, with attention focused across the Black Sea in Ukraine, fighting on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia killed about 100 troops after Azerbaijan shelled a number of towns in Armenia, with both sides accusing each other of “provocations”.” * Der Spiegel:  : “Peace negotiations mediated by the European Union have been at an impasse since Baku also attacked territory in the Republic of Armenia in September 2022.” * TIME:  : “...democratic nation that was recently invaded by its authoritarian neighbor”  : “...but also Armenia, which has been suffering from Azerbaijan's invasion for almost three weeks now.” * BBC:  : “I don’t think anyone doubts that Azerbaijan started this operation on the territory of Armenia. Even Azerbaijani commentators admit this. Armenia is currently weak, has little interest in disrupting the status quo.” * Eurasianet  :"Azerbaijan launches large-scale attacks on Armenia"  :“Azerbaijan launched a large-scale attack on targets in Armenia, an unprecedented expansion of the long-running conflict into Armenian territory.” * Michael Rubin, senior researcher at AIP:  :“Last week, Azerbaijan attacked Armenia proper. (Last week Azerbaijan attacked Armenia directly)” * Paul Stronski is a senior fellow in the Carnegie Russia and Eurasia Programs, specializing in Russia and the South Caucasus:  : “..the fact that Russia is preoccupied, certainly led to what looks like an Azerbaijani offensive at this time”  : “And what we even saw just in the last few days is actually attacks inside and shelling inside cities inside Armenia, not just along the border." * Kapil Komireddy, political columnist for The Telegraph:  : “But so little about Azerbaijan's attack, which goes beyond the disputed territory of Karabakh and targets Armenia proper.” *Seth Franzman, Middle East analyst for The Jerusalem Post , contributor to Defense News, The National Interest and Digest of Middle East Studies:  :“Attacks on Armenia represent dangerous escalation” *Carnegie Europe:  :“Nearly 300 soldiers died in a large-scale Azerbaijani incursion into the territory of Armenia on September 13-14.” Vanezi (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bhavana (actress) → Bhavana (actress, born 1986) – (Discuss) – WP:PDAB versus Bhavana (Kannada actress) not justified. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit! 11:43, 9 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heptanese school (painting) → Ionian school (painting) – (Discuss) – The term Ionian seems to be more than 10X more common than Heptanese for these topics. Dicklyon (talk) 03:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 03:11, 13 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Volodarsk, Ukraine → Vedmezhe – (Discuss) – Due to the modern name of the settlement, since 2016. See: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/1351-19#Text Yuriy Kvach (talk) 09:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Majority favorite criterion → majority criterion – (Discuss) – To stay consistent with the names at Wikipedia, I recommend that this page should be moved to "majority criterion" or "majority winner criterion". There are already the Condorcet winner criterion, the Condorcet loser criterion, and the majority loser criterion. Who uses the term "majority favorite criterion" anyway? Markus Schulze 18:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Inconfidência Mineira → Minas Gerais Conspiracy – (Discuss) – English name, or some variation of it. Torimem (talk) 20:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 03:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Israel–Hamas war → Gaza War (2023–present) – (Discuss) – The previous discussion has concluded that WP:COMMONNAME does not stand as other names are also in common use. In such case, WP:COMMONNAME states that When there is no single, obvious name that is demonstrably the most frequently used for the topic by these sources, editors should reach a consensus as to which title is best by considering these criteria directly. I believe the proposed title is better in consistency; previous wars involving Gaza, Gaza War (2008–2009) and 2014 Gaza War, use Gaza War in the title, so this article should also follow suit. NasssaNser 03:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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