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Battle of Kleidion[edit]

I would like someone to check the article for structural, grammatical, punctuation and other mistakes. Also as you can see many of the sources are Bulgarian and/or in Bulgarian language and I need an opinion whether they should be written in Cyrillic as they are in original or I should write them with Latin letters. My purpose is to nominate it for FA or GA so any comments and suggestions for further improvement would be welcome or whether that aim is possible at all. --Gligan (talk) 13:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wandalstouring[edit]

Is it possible to find some sources in English perhaps, so it is easier to check for national POV issues (the article doesn't read like there is a problem, but as Lenin said, controll is better than trust). Wandalstouring (talk) 14:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will try to search for sources in English in the Internet. --Gligan (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can check Sir Steven Runciman here [1] Lantonov (talk) 14:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you know German, so the following may also be useful:

  • Jireček, K. J. (1876). Geschichte der Bulgaren (in German). Nachdr. d. Ausg. Prag 1876, Hildesheim, New York : Olms 1977. ISBN 3-487-06408-1., pp. 195-200 (pp. 195-197, 200 can be seen inside the link) Lantonov (talk) 15:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And this [2] is in French. Lantonov (talk) 15:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another book in English exactly about this battle (which I haven't access to, however) is:

I have added the sources found by Lantonov, one found by me and two more footnotes from English historians. --Gligan (talk) 16:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good job. The article is far better than the new sources :). What else needs to be done is writing the date when each onlinesource was retrieved behind it. Wandalstouring (talk) 11:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is done. --Gligan (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I think you missed some. When you are done, submit it for A class review. Cheers Wandalstouring (talk) 16:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yannismarou[edit]

  • "place on July 29, 1014", "29 July ". Inconsistencies with the dates. Further MoS issues: "The next phase of the war began in 1000, when Basil". Do not wikilink single years per MoS.
  • "In the ensuing battle the Byzantines were completely defeated". Shouldn't be better like that: "In the ensuing battle the Byzantines were completely defeated".
  • "Skylitzes records that Basil completely routed the Bulgarian army and, according to John Skylitzes's account of the battle, took 15,000 prisoners". I don't like the repetitive and a bit "clumsy" IMO phrasing.
  • "According to Skylitzes, Samuil died of a heart attack as he saw his forces march past on July 31, although other sources indicate that Samuil lived until 6 October." Yes, but you cite only Skylitzes. The other sources?
  • It is peculiar the way in which you present your sources without using the WP templates for this purpose. Nevertheless, it seems consistent.
  • I would like the photo of the infobox to be a bit more informative. Where is the picture from?--Yannismarou (talk) 16:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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