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Have tried to expand it and source most of the info about it, but still feel that I might be missing something or be biased somehow. I would especially like someone to check out the citations: there are a ton and some differ only minorly, someone should probably follow them up and ensure that I haven't miscited some of the Constitutions' parts. Thanx. 68.39.174.238 21:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC) (PS. You might want to also PING my talk page if you respond to this to ensure I get your review and reply as quickly as possible)[reply]

Further note: I'd especially appreciate people checking out the "Important cases" section to ensure I've adequately and correctly covered the main points of the case(s) (IE. What is stated there isn't wildly out of sync with what the sources cited state). Thanx again. 68.39.174.238 04:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Two things: if possible, images should be provided and 2 the lead should be expanded, preferably to 2 paragraphs, in order to summarize the article. I'll see if I have more time to work on this article; the referencing looks really good, and is a potential featured article. Thanks AndyZ t 21:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hmm, I added the pics of the justices, however I'm interested to know what other images you think would be appropriate? I've added Brearley since he was important in the early history of the Court and his pic was aready here, but who/what else? And more importantly, where do I get it from? I've looked around on Google and Image Google (Untill I got into some pretty scary fringe stuff), but absolutely cannot find a pic of any part of the building the meet in. Any ideas? As to the intro, I think I've expanded it. Any better? Thanx again! 68.39.174.238 02:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I presume the court has a seal. Also, this article should mention New Jersey v. T.L.O., 469 U.S. 325 (1985) [1] - very famous case in which the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the NJ Supreme Court to find that students at school had a lower expectation of privacy when searched. BD2412 T 03:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmmmm.... couldn't find a seal for the court itself, but NJ attorney's tend to have this on their websites. BD2412 T 03:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yea... I just found out that I'd totally overlooked the Mount Laurel Doctrine and have been spending time getting that added in. Thanx for the info on TLO, I'll add that in next. I also noticed those seals and will add one to the section about the regulation of the practice of law if you (or someone) uploads it.
      • Note: Despite its awful coloring [2] seems to be the best resolution one. Correction: [3] is pretty good if we can claim fairuse. Why does this State's highest judicial power so secretive about the details of its operation and history? Other states have wealthes of information on their Supreme Coorts >:(! 68.39.174.238 04:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:NJSupCtSeal.gif

I may work the color a bit and re-upload it tomorrow night. For now, off to bed. Ok, looks kinda crappy, but keep it small and it should do ok for now... BD2412 T 04:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • OK, added with an explanation of the "Certified Attorney".

Also, some new general questions come to mind: What should be the lead pic? Personally I prefer the pics of the Justices, however I think there's a justification for the Seal as well. Also, I've numbered the citations for the last two Constitutions as (year)-#, in the original order, however now in the articel they're slighly out of order. Should I change them so they're all in order from 1 to x when reading the articel source? Thanx again 68.39.174.238 05:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to keep bugging people, but now something else came up: In the lead I have that the changes in the Constitutions shows a change from "Law Lords" to the current system of judicial appointment. Is the way it's phrased there now legit, or is it over the "NOR" line? 68.39.174.238 05:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Seal Deal - here is the deal with the seal - it's really just a lithograph of the seal of the State of New Jersey circled by the words, "New Jersey Supreme Court". [4][5] However, "New Jersey's state seal was designed by Pierre Eugene du Simitiere and presented in May of 1777" - ergo, public domain. The designer has surely been dead more than 70 years, so the only question is, has the court been using this seal since before 1923? BD2412 T 01:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the problem, "before 1923" the Supreme Court was the crappy 1844 constitution's: A non-supreme and likely totally different one that definately didn't have authority over the practise of Law in the State. 68.39.174.238 03:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Aha! That doesn't matter, if the same design was in use for the seal. BD2412 T 04:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the current one says "Certified Attorney" because the SC is responsible for certifying such people, and I think that the previous (1844) one DIDN'T exercise such a function and so wouldn't commission, create, publish or use a seal with those words/that extra circle design on it, hence, it'd definately be a post 1947 creation. 68.39.174.238 04:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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