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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 21:24, 27 December 2008 [1].

List of Metallica band members[edit]

I believe this list is ready to be featured. Nergaal (talk) 01:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

To tell the FLC reviewers for this nomination, the list only includes 9 entries. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: It actually has 10. Nergaal (talk) 09:09, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now it does. Laugh out loud. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 09:13, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind. I thought I saw nine for some reason... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 09:14, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Rockk3r
  • By the beginning of he next year Cliff Burton had replaced Ron, and soon after, Mustane was kicked out due to his alcohol abuse and was replaced in April by Kirk Hammett. The band formed of Ulrich, Hetfield, Burton, and Hammett released three albums, Kill 'Em All (1983), Ride the Lightning (1984), and Master of Puppets (1986), the latter also being their first gold certified album by the RIAA.
The band formed of Ulrich, Hetfield, Burton, and Hammett (redundant!) released three albums
This is a list of band members, not of albums, and their certicications.
  • In September 1986 Cliff Burton died in a car accident, and in his memory, the remaining three members decided to continue and hired Jason Newsted as bass guitarist
"and in his memory" - where did you find that? they just kept the band working.
  • Under the new format, the band continued to be highly successful, releasing Ride the Lightning (1988), Metallica (1991), Load (1996) and ReLoad (1997) and being certified 15x platinum by the RIAA.
"releasing Ride the Lightning", wasn't that one already released?
"and being certified 15x platinum by the RIAA.", that was the album Metallica. When you read this sentence it looks like Load was the one theat recieved the certification.
The list makes more reference to the albums than the members.

Take a look at other featured band members lists. The lead still needs lots of work. This should be withdrawn, fixed up, and the re-submited. Rockk3r Spit it Out!

Please take a look again. Nergaal (talk) 09:09, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

The list's been imrpoved, but still some more work.

  • There're 5 paragraphs, could you put # 3 and 4 together?
  • "Ulrich was rushed to hospital with a unknown illness, and was unable to perform." - with an unknown...
  • " went on to release three albums and received its first gold certification by the Recording Industry Association of America." - is it really that imprtant that they recieved a gold certif by the RIAA. If so, the the black album would be more important. I don't finbd that sentence substancial enough.
  • " For the next show, Ulrich was replaced by Slayer drummer Dave Lombardo," - Why "For the nexst show", what was the previous show? It also sounds like those members were hired as permanet members, and they just helped out on the show.
    • Tried to make it sound better now. How is it? Nergaal (talk) 21:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jason's "Release contributions: The $5.98 E.P.: Garage Days Re-Revisited (1987), …And Justice for All (1988), Metallica (1991), Live Shit: Binge & Purge (1993), Load (1996), ReLoad (1997), Garage Inc. (1998), S&M (1999)" - change it to: "Release contributions: all Metallica releases from The $5.98 E.P.: Garage Days Re-Revisited (1987) to S&M (1999). Makes it shorter and tells tehe same information.
  • I know it's true, but is there any citation to reference Bob Rock's contribution to St. Anger?
  • "Band members decided to kick Mustaine out of the band " - "Mustaine was kicked out of the band..."
  • Not necessary, but could you upload a picture of Newsted? Flickr is a good site to find free images.
    • Actually there doesn't seem to be any free good ones [2]. Nergaal (talk) 21:46, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "By March 1982, when Metallica played its first live show, Ron McGovney had been recruited to play bass guitar." It's unnecesary. Read it now and tell me it doesn't sound better?
Thats's all for now...  Rockk3r Spit it Out! 20:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - all my comments have been resolved. From my point of view, this list is ready. Good job!  Rockk3r Spit it Out! 03:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from SRX

Oppose - not a quick fail, but in this list's nature, it has few items to comply with WP:WIAFL.SRX 21:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

10 is too few? Nergaal (talk) 09:09, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I also thought I saw nine.
  • Early that year, Ulrich posted an advertisement in a Los Angeles newspaper which lead to James Hetfield being recruited to sing and play rhythm guitar. - led not lead
  • After a second advertisement Dave Mustaine was hired as a lead guitarist. By March 1982, when Metallica played its first live show, Ron McGovney had been recruited to play bass guitar. - comma after advertisement
  • In the fall of 1982, Ulrich and Hetfield attended a show which featured bassist Cliff Burton and the two were "blown away" by Burton's use of a wah-wah pedal and asked him to join Metallica. - comma before each and
  • Exodus guitarist Kirk Hammett flew in to replace Mustaine the same afternoon and Metallica played its first show with Hammett in April 1983. that not the and comma before and
  • Under this format, the band went on to release three albums and receive its first gold certification by the RIAA. - received not receive
  • In September 1986 Cliff Burton died in a car accident, which left Metallica's future in doubt. - comma after 1986, in addition, is the exact date not available?
  • However, Hetfield returned to play in December the same year. - its not grammatically correct to start a sentence with however, how about Hetfield, however, ...
  • Merge either the third and fourth paragraphs or the fourth and fifth, as they are short in length--SRX 15:27, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Comments fixed. Nergaal (talk) 20:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - all problems fixed to comply with WP:WIAFL.--SRX 20:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:27, 21 December 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • Why the infobox? It doesn't have any information that isn't already said in the lead.
  • "Ulrich posted an advertisement in a Los Angeles newspaper which lead to James Hetfield being recruited to sing and play rhythm guitar."-->Ulrich posted an advertisement in a Los Angeles newspaper, leading to James Hetfield's being recruited to sing and play rhythm guitar.
  • "After a second advertisement" Comma after this phrase.
  • "In the fall of 1982, Ulrich and Hetfield attended a show which featured bassist Cliff Burton and the two were "blown away" by Burton's use of a wah-wah pedal and asked him to join Metallica."-->In the fall of 1982, Ulrich and Hetfield attended a show that featured bassist Cliff Burton; the two were "blown away" by Burton's use of a wah-wah pedal and asked him to join Metallica. Also, where is the source for that quotation?
  • "Although Burton initially declined the offer, by the end of the year he accepted on the condition the band move to San Francisco."-->Although Burton initially declined the offer, by the end of the year he accepted the invitation on the condition that the band move to San Francisco.
  • "Band members decided to kick Mustaine out of the band due to drug and alcohol abuse, and violent behavior."-->Band members decided to kick Mustaine out of the band due to drug and alcohol abuse, as well as violent behavior.
  • "by the RIAA." Spell out RIAA on its first appearance.
  • "Newsted later joined tha" typo.
  • "as the band's future was in doubt." Second time this phrase has been used, use something more descriptive.
  • "The band went on to release an album without an official bassist—although the bass guitar was played by the band's producer Bob Rock." Which album?
  • "mysterious "-->unknown. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments fixed. The infobox is present in all the other band members FLs. Nergaal (talk) 20:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Nergaal (talk) 22:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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