Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Buffalo Bills head coaches

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 12:05, 2 July 2008 [1].

List of Buffalo Bills head coaches[edit]

This list is based off of List of New York Jets head coaches (a featured list) and List of San Francisco 49ers head coaches (a featured list candidate). Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 21:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support This looks good to me. Gary King (talk) 06:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak Oppose~~ The first paragraph needs a lot of work and some citations. I understand that teams play eight home games. Many would be confused on whether they are now playing all their games in Toronto. It is not even clear to me whether they will play a home game in Toronto every year going forward. You may want to mention that they formerly played at the War Memorial Stadium (Buffalo) (aka The Rockpile) although I am not sure if other coach lists make mention of current and former stadia.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:36, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know how that text got garbled. I guess I wasn't thinking straight when I made this edit. Eh, screw it. I'll just remove the entire stadium bit. It's not even included in any of the other head coach lists. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 16:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - O.K. Can you find at least one citation for the first paragraph to satisfy my need to see at least one in each paragraph.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I added a ref for the last sentence of the first paragraph. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 20:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support My minor problems above have been resolved.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Seems to meet all criteria. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 21:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)

"Games Coached ->coached" and "Loses -> Losses" in the key.
- Done. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Regular Season ->season.
- Done. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any reason why present is in italics?
- To bring to the reader's attention that Dick Jauron is the current head coach. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think that's obvious from the word "present" and from the fact he's last on the list and from the fact you have a dedicated paragraph in the lead stating such. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Alright, fixed. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - I've gotta find something to talk about... ;-) The Rambling Man (talk) 19:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ref [24] needs date.

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Done. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The opening sentence doesn't engage the reader as it's simply a repetition of the article title
- Rewritten. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Move the note links in the Term column to the reference column

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- That's just going to confuse the reader. The notes are positioned to help the reader understand certain coaching circumstances. Moving them to the references column will just make things complicated. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please recast the opening sentence so that it does not mostly or fully repeat the title of the article. Please note the standard set by Criterion 2 of the featured list criteria, which states that the lead should have "an engaging lead section", and the Bold title and Establish context sections in the styleguide for lead sections. The opening is just where we need to capture readers' attention by contexualising the list, not irritating them with straight repetition of what they've just read.
- Rewritten. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why upper-case L for loss, in the Key? TONY (talk) 09:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No particular reason. Don't see why it can't be capitalized. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please ensure the GC, W, L and T columns are all of the same width (for both Season and Playoffs), it looks awful. Why colour the table, if there is already a *? indopug (talk) 11:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added widths. I don't see what the problem was before. The table normally would just have colors, but per WP:ACCESSIBILITY, I've included an asterisk to denote HoF status. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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