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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Ucucha 16:09, 28 March 2012 [1].

We Found Love (music video)[edit]

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Nominator(s): Aaron • You Da One 17:24, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because... I have worked on the article extensively and it is very stable. I believe it is a very good article. It has been copyedited by a few editors as well. Aaron • You Da One 17:24, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some initial Comments on first glance, it looks like some more copyediting may be needed to get up to 1a quality.
  • I'm not sure the bold in the first sentence is needed: (WP:BOLDTITLE}.
  • "After physical violence and having enough" Having enough of what?
  • You might think about linking to Youth pastor instead of Pastor.
  • You have a mention of Rhianna stripping before you summarize the plot of the video, maybe put it after.
    Now, because this happened before. Aaron • You Da One
  • "She filmed scenes, wearing A bikini with the pattern of the American flag" I presume the capital was an accident, or is that a type of Bikini?
  • "but photographers or fans being could not see." Looks like a typo here.
  • "Extras for the shoot were not told what was expected of them until last minute" looks like you're missing a word here.
  • "When posed with this question," What question?
  • "while brief scenes of Rihanna and her boyfriend prepare to have sex." This sounds like the scenes are preparing to have sex :)
    Lol. Aaron • You Da One
  • "After having enough and finding him passed out on the floor of his apartment" Having enough of what? The drugs?
    Well, everything. Lol. Aaron • You Da One
  • "Chris Coplan of Consequence of Sound praised the production of the video, noting that its cinematic feel and that it shows" I think you can remove one "that".
  • "Coplan compared the video in its entirety to the film Blue Valentine due to its sexualized content" You could probably tighten this up by removing "in its entirety". See Tony's exercises.
  • "Vena, alike Coplan, also noted that the song has a cinematic feel, calling it a "mini-movie", and similar Ramirez..." This sentence should probably be rephrased a bit, or maybe broken up into two.
  • "Dobbins noted that the list of illicit and frowned upon activities may once again aggravate parents and committees because of the explicit nature of the video" I don't think the list she made will bother them, it's more the things from the video that are listed.
    I don't get your point? I don't mean a handwritten list, I mean the list of things that they do. Aaron • You Da One
  • "Also writing for New York magazine is Charlotte Cowles, who commented that" You switch between present and past tense here, try top avoid that.
  • "Jamie Lewis of the International Business Times noted that the video is likely to cause controversy amongst different groups of the public due to the "multitude of illicit and illegal acts",[20] and condoned the activities that the singer appeared to be partaking in" It sounds like you're saying Lewis condoned the activities? Also, "different groups of the public" reads a bit awkwardly.
    Yes that is what he is saying. Aaron • You Da One
  • "The Rape Crisis Centre in the UK—an anti-rape organization which helps victims of rape" Could you try to avoid saying "rape" three times in a row like that?
  • "The video was also scrutinized Brandon Ward" looks like you left out a word.
  • "Ward analyzed as to why the video is immorally unjust and how it does not conform with Christian beliefs and morals" That reads a bit awkwardly.
  • "Ulster Cancer Foundation, an anti-smoking campaign organization, dismissed Rihanna for smoking in the music video" What do you mean that they "dismissed" her? Was she a member of their group?
    I don't know, it wasn't me who added these words lol.
  • "critics commented on the resemblance between Rihanna's ex-boyfriend Chris Brown and the her featured love interest in the video" Should probably remove a word here.
  • "it displayed Spears drowning in a bathtub as a result of a successful drug overdose." Forgot the capital here. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:07, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Done all. Thanks. Aaron • You Da One 16:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • While I respect the effort that Calvin/Aaron has put into this, I must suggest withdrawal and a detailed copyedit/peer review, as well. I applaud the nominator for being responsive to our comments, but I see at least four errors introduced in this edit alone--so I think this probably isn't the right time for an FAC and Oppose the current nomination.
  • "having enough of the relationshipf,"
  • "photographers nor fans where allowed to watch"
  • "Ward wrote how he though the video is immorally unjust"
  • "an anti-smoking campaign organization, condonned Rihanna for smoking in the music video". Mark Arsten (talk) 18:49, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Other problems include:

  • This back-to-front sentence "A monologue given by fashion model Agyness Deyn begins the video."
  • A strange comma usage "for Rihanna's portrayal of having sex while under the influence of illegal drugs, not being a role model to young girls"
    It's not if you had of continued the read the sentence, you will see that there is a third point I made. Aaron • You Da One
  • A fused participle "ahead of Rihanna embarking"
  • A missing word "Pictures of Rihanna leaked onto the internet the same day"
    ? Aaron • You Da One
  • Redundancy "The shoot location was moved to a closed set in Titanic Quarter, Belfast, on September 28, 2011, where the filming continued, but photographers or fans being could not see"
    Shortened. Aaron • You Da One
  • More redundancy "in order to keep the content of the video as secret as possible"
    I don't see how this is redundant, as it is a reason as to why they were not told. Aaron • You Da One
    The "in order" part is. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:36, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is this a restrictive or non-restrictive clause "Matsoukas jokingly stated that the scene which displays O'Shaughnessy drawing a tattoo"
    ? Aaron • You Da One
    Either add commas around this clause--"which displays O'Shaughnessy drawing a tattoo"--or replace "which" with "that". In this context, "that" would be appropriate. Simple guide. This was discussed in the "S&M" FAC. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:36, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think delivered' is meant here "The video begins with a monologue given about love and heartbreak"
    No, that sounds worse. Aaron • You Da One
  • I think this should be unconscious, "she is also seen passed out on the street"
  • Again here "After having enough and finding him passed out on the floor of his apartment, Rihanna leaves him." And enough of what?
    Everything. Aaron • You Da One
  • Missing word "Critics were divided on opinions of the video"
  • False contrast "from accolades to criticism"
  • Not English "the her featured love interest in the video"
    What do you mean "Not english" ? Aaron • You Da One

Oppose and I suggest withdrawal and a thorough copyedit from top to bottom. Graham Colm (talk) 21:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • The nominators rushed attempts to improve the prose are just introducing more problems – "condoned" means "to approve of" btw, and its spelled incorrectly – and errors that have been explained several times in the nominator's other FACs are present. The nominator's inability to spot rhetorical questions, which are commonly used devices in FACs, is frustrating to say the least. These poorly prepared nominations are sapping our reviewers' strength. FAC is not the place to get articles fixed. Graham Colm (talk) 19:01, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Close it then and go see someone about your attitude. You are extremely rude. Aaron • You Da One 19:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Calvin999. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose due to concerns raised above, sorry. I did a copy edit to this article quite a while ago, but it was a simple one. A more serious and thorough copy edit is needed for the prose to be polished to perfection. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:36, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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