Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Jamiroquai/archive2

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Sarastro1 via FACBot (talk) 23:59, 20 January 2019 [1].

Jamiroquai[edit]

Nominator(s): 100cellsman (talk) 11:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again! After a helpful peer review, I've come back here with this article ready for nomination. It is again about the British jazz-funk band Jamiroquai who broke two world records for the best selling funk album and the fastest airplane concert. They drive sports cars and sing about making the world a better place, their "Virtual Insanity" music video defies gravity, AND they got an LED hat. That's pretty damn awesome. Really though, here's hoping that this article will better represent the group. 100cellsman (talk) 11:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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File:Journey_to_Arnhemland_Jamiroquai.ogg needs a more complete FUR. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:43, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Both fixed. 100cellsman (talk) 10:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Would still like to see more details around purpose of use. Why for example is it insufficient for us simply to note the use of didgeridoo in text? This section needs to be essentially an argument that having a non-free file is essential to reader understanding. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I added more context about its purpose of use. Not entirely sure if I can think of a better argument, so if you're still uncertain, I can just remove it. 100cellsman (talk) 14:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think there could be an argument made for inclusion of this file; I don't think the current FUR makes it. There is some guidance at WP:NFC which might help in strengthening the rationale. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:23, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ceoil[edit]

1.a - this is not well written. From the lead only

This prob more suited to the talk page, but are they not more Acid Jazz than jazz-funk? Apart from anything, there is a strong disco influence.
which landed them a record deal - landed doesn't seem encyclopedic in tone
There are 13 instances of the word "also". Around ten are redundant.
Jamiroquai favoured live instrumentation and stage performances - what does this actually mean. Over what you dont say.
occasionally reference Kay's views towards environmentalism - reflect rather than reference.
With the band selling more than 26 million albums worldwide, Jamiroquai's 1996 album Travelling Without Moving, holds the Guinness World Record for the best-selling funk album in history - What? Why "with"; the latter claim does not follow from the first.
etc

Ceoil (talk) 16:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly done. I never thought about what their general music terminology was. For some time, the article previously called them a "funk and jazz band" or a "funk and acid jazz" band. The disco sound came two albums later when they released Travelling Without Moving. When I was doing research, I recall them being termed as a "Nu-funk" band a couple times. As for the airplane record in the lead, I can't think of where else put it without it seeming out of place with a certain section. Should I kick it out? 100cellsman (talk) 18:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To add, they also debuted under the record label in fact called, "Acid Jazz". Maybe that could be kept to preserve that moment in their career. 100cellsman (talk) 18:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well there would be no Acid Jazz label without Jamiroquai; the genre was a *deeply* uncool basket case, viewed not dissimilar to Smooth jazz until I think "Spaceboy". Nu-funk sound like a non existent journalist invention. Thank you for your thoughtful reply, let me read through a bit more. And yes would kick. Ceoil (talk) 22:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So I made that airplane mention... fly away from the lead now. Ahahaha. 100cellsman (talk) 22:32, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You kicked that ---t over to the jams :) Ceoil (talk) 23:28, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural note: This FAC was nominated early. The previous FAC was archived on 13 January, and as there is a two-week waiting period before an article should be renominated, this should FAC should not have been opened until the 27 January. It really should be a procedural close. If there is substantial work to be done, I'm inclined to archive this now. Ceoil, do you think this is close, or would it be better to do the work away from FAC? Sarastro (talk) 23:42, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gah, I did not think of this first. But archive if you must. 100cellsman (talk) 23:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sarastro, I think the page would benefit from further pre-FAC work, ie my sense is that its not close. No offence 100cellsman. Ceoil (talk) 23:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks Ceoil, and I think it would really help the article if you had a chance to look at it. I will archive this now. Sarastro (talk) 23:59, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Sarastro (talk) 23:59, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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