User talk:Zagalejo/Archive 12

Magic Johnson confusion

Thanks for the link about Magic's siblings. I added to the article because it is a direct quote from him and matches the number I got from another source, but I am still confused by the differences, even among nationally known publications. Here are some examples: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/bio/_/id/2334/magic-johnson his espn.com bio, says he is the 6th of 10 children. http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jun/05/sports/sp-magic05 article from the L.A. times, says he is the 4th of 9 children. http://www.biography.com/people/magic-johnson-9356150 says Magic had 9 brothers and sisters.

But I believe the answer to the confusion comes from this book: http://books.google.com/books?id=WY437HMnVx4C&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=Earvin+Johnson,+Sr.&source=bl&ots=ZMAxQrgbhD&sig=d5FIZdvCFVgLTfEeNLy38qXYhqk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=J6qfUdaVKoParAGr74G4DQ&ved=0CGEQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=Earvin%20Johnson%2C%20Sr.&f=false. Apparently there are step-children. I am going to add this reference, because it lists the names of the children and the family composition.[[D-free]] (talk) 18:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Magic Johnson

Thanks for helping with the siblings. I should have checked his autobiography first. Both books list the exact same children, so I agree they seem to be the best source regarding his siblings. I think there could be a little more information about how his parents and his older brothers, all of whom played basketball, helped to spark his interest in the game. I am going to research that, and maybe get to his MVP seasons and his first NBA game.[[D-free]] (talk) 22:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

"Life outside basketball" section

Hey man. Sorry for making that section into "Personal life" in LeBron James. I like "Life outside basketball" more too. Great idea.--Ktmartell (talk) 13:11, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Pending changes on Paul George

Noble effort to try pending changes, but should Paul George (basketball) be changed to semi-protected? It seems to still be highly edited, mostly unconstructively from unregistered users, and a lot of effort is spent reverting. WP:PCPP recommends "Pending changes protection should not be used on articles with a very high edit rate, even if they meet the aforementioned criteria. Instead semi-protection should be considered."—Bagumba (talk) 07:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I had been thinking about changing that. I've now applied semiprotection. Zagalejo^^^ 23:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Brandon Bass photo

My bad on that - should know better than trust the Flickr captions/titles blindly. Mosmof (talk) 05:31, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Service Award

Hey..

I saw that you edited the Jim Chones article right after me, and quite honestly I came upon your user page by mistake when I meant to click on to the new revision of the article.

While I was there I looked up your stats just to see how long you've been around this crazy wiki world, and figured I'd give you the proper service award. I've done the same for other editors (especially those I work closely with).

I apologize if I overstepped my bounds. (talk) Vjmlhds 04:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Mike Malone

Have the Kings officially announced that Mike Malone is their new head coach? I don't see anything on their site or NBA.com. ESPN lists it but I'm still not convinced. ESPN seem to be all over it but I'm just wondering why NBA.com have said anything. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:14, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, this seems official. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

No worries, just wanted to see what you thought. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:51, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Seikaly

He absolutely did play with Panathinaikos. He was in their youth club for many years and then with their senior club until he could not play in the Greek League because of his citizenship. This is absolutely true. I don't know about the age 3 or 9, but Greek sources had stated age 3. If you don't want it on there due to sources then that is fine, but please know that it is 100% true.Bluesangrel (talk) 22:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC) I just did a quick search on Google and found this - [1] I don't know the exact rules because of the different languages. But if you use Google translate you should be able to read it to at least know it is true. If these are not valid sources that is fine, but I just wanted to you to know this information is not made up.Bluesangrel (talk) 22:35, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Just Google this Ρόνι Σακαλής, that's the name in Greek alphabet.Bluesangrel (talk) 20:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

This is probably the biggest newspaper in the entire nation of Greece, and the biggest news website in Greece. This is a HUGE news website - [2] - That is the biggest and most trusted news source in Greece.Bluesangrel (talk) 22:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

The reason Panathinaikos was not listed in his infobox as one of his teams was because he didn't play a regular season game with them. That's why I did not add it there. But he did play with them in the preseason in 1982, which was why it was listed in the article itself. I figured that was the correct way to do that. Since there seems to be conflicting sources about how old he was when he moved to Greece, I think it's good to keep it as you have it written now then. Just to say he moved to Greece as a child, without specifying what age. Since different papers are saying different things.Bluesangrel (talk) 22:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Notability for basketball players

I was wondering about this. On the guidelines for notability for basketball players it says that notability is for NBA players, guys drafted in the first two rounds of the NBA draft, for players that played in the ABA or that play in Australia's league. Then it says for guys that played in the Olympics. What is confusing to me is that for European league, it says guys that played in Euroleague, Spanish League, or Italian League, or other similar leagues.

I am not sure why Italian league gets precedence now over leagues like Eurocup, or Greek league, or VTB United league. Since, Eurocup is the second most important European league, and since VTB league is the most important regional league (and now is also the Russian national league starting next year). The VTB league is also ranked higher than the Italian league in the basketball league rankings of Europe.

While the Greek league is now considered the 2nd best national league in Europe, and is ranked that way. So I am not sure why the Italian league is listed there, and none of those other leagues? Surely, this needs to be reworded? Because Eurocup, VTB league, and Greek league are all considered higher ranked and/or more important than Italian league in recent years. I would think then since there is consensus that players from Italian league would have notability, then so should those other European leagues. Or am I wrong? if this is based on historical precedent, then at least the Greek league should also be listed then, as it is one of the 3 historic European leagues along with the leagues in Italy and Spain. So if this is based on historical precedent, then the league in Greece should be listed there also. What are your thoughts on this?Bluesangrel (talk) 23:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Tiago Splitter

I apologize for vandalizing Tiago Splitter's page, it was only meant for laughs and no harm was intended. My edits are usually very productive and beneficial (such as my revamp of the Harvard basketball team page), and this edit was only an add on to a joke. All in all, I apologize, and it will not happen again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albino Geronimo (talk • contribs) 22:42, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Except that it will.[3] - SummerPhD (talk) 03:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Tiago

I see you've deleted the info about Tiago being a player of the Brazil Basketball team. Are you really not aware that Tiago currently plays for the Brazilian national basketball team? MarcosPassos (talk) 02:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Predrag Savovic's nationality

I've started a discussion about the matter. Arbor to SJ (talk) 18:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

JJ Redick

Would you consider semi-protecting J. J. Redick for a while? This YouTube thing hasn't stopped. DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, I tried. There are comments on the video that says keep adding it so yeah, I'm not going to win this. DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:46, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Protect Kyle Hines?

There has been pretty consistent vandalism/addition of factual errors to Kyle Hines - could you protect it so only registered users can edit for awhile? It is always IPs doing it. After some research, it looks like Hines had a dust up with fans of a rival Greek team - my guess is this stems from that. Rikster2 (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Scottie Pippen article

Why do you keep trying to erase this information? Pippen has been accused of assaulting a man by punching him and kicking him in the face. The police are investigating. It is all over the news. Yet you keep trying to delete the information. You should not let your bias as a Bulls fan interfere with your editing. You are way over the 3 reverts policy. The Man Hole (talk) 01:18, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Kris Humphries

Could the pending reviews on Kris Humphries be changed to semi-protection? It will get a lot of traffic now the Celtics-Nets trade rumour. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Gotta love this time of the year :P DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:10, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Holiday/Noel

This seems to be the only NBA.com release/report of the Holiday/Noel trade, and even that says "report". I thought the Pelicans or the 76ers themselves would release something but seeing as now its the 28th, teams cant trade therefore, it can't happen until July 10. What do you think? I've kept both Holiday and Noel's articles as 76ers and Pelicans respectively for now. DaHuzyBru (talk) 12:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it was a dumb deal as well. Maybe it won't end up happening. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:31, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

About Wikipedia

Make sure you read and understand the following page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About

From here on out, I will let you do the page edits and the research! You want to be the community right?

Oh, this page needs some edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT

I won't provide what they are, don't want any confusion. Enjoy!

Oh, this page needs edits as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneRepublic

Better get at it, I'm sure there are more pages that need your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvt1000r (talk • contribs) 19:15, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Seth Curry

Hello Z - An IP (24.247.41.0) vandalized Seth Curry's article, including removing his entire college career and stats. Can you help recover this? Thanks for your help. Rikster2 (talk) 18:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Nerlens Noel

Another request, but I think Noel needs another round of semi-protection. The previous one just expired and IP's have already been at it. DaHuzyBru (talk) 12:20, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, no worries. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 03:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Trade/free agent rumors

Can you protect Eric Bledsoe, J. J. Redick, Jared Dudley, Caron Butler and Kevin Martin? I've requested it but no admin have done them yet. Thanks.—Chris!_c/t 00:36, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

An IP kept on adding unofficial rumors to Andrew Bynum‎, Jrue Holiday and Jarrett Jack. Can you protect them? Thanks.—Chris!_c/t 02:52, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Kevin Martin

RE: "(strictly speaking, no one can *sign* anything until July 10. if you don't understand, ask me.)" -->No I understand how the league works. I believe my recent edits are objective and judicially speaking, are accurate.

Tony Allen

What should happen with the Tony Allen situation? Semi-protect, block the IP user for three reverts or just leave it? DaHuzyBru (talk) 07:01, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I see you've left Chris Paul as it is so should Allen be the same? DaHuzyBru (talk) 07:05, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, same. I've left the infobox, but yes, I've removed info from the body of the article. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

122.107.166.227

I don't think this guy is going to stop. I think he's going through every single NBA player article and changing the HS format. DaHuzyBru (talk) 06:07, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Javaris Crittenton

So you reverted the edit because you don't like the category? He's cited in an Atlanta Journal-Constitution article on his page as joining the Crips when he moved to L.A. Just curious as to your logic on this. Luchuslu (talk) 19:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, no problem. I won't lose sleep over it either way. Just to be safe I'll leave it off. Luchuslu (talk) 19:43, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Karl Malone

If they're significant, rewrite them into prose. Just a bullet list of random factoids is highly discouraged per WP:TRIVIA. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:28, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Josh Smith

Could you please put protection on that article? EPX2 (talk) 22:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciate it. EPX2 (talk) 03:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Chicago Bulls revert

Sorry about that. I must've use rollback accidentally.—Chris!_c/t 03:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Chris Kaman

So we should not include any information at all on reported signings until it's official? It's not as though the lead/infobox was changed. I was EC'd and didn't see that you had protected it until later. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Kirilenko

The Aldridge piece includes quotes from his agent, hence why I consider it to be evidence. It's along the lines of how we accepted Chris Paul's announcement that he was resigning despite the fact that the team hadn't yet officially announced that. EPX2 (talk) 14:24, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

go fix the dwight buycks page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banwait16 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

dwight buycks

the man announced it himself though twitter. of course its official. stop being stupid and undoing the accuracy posts which i have made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banwait16 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Dav Pilkey

Thank you, Zagalejo. I appreciate your help. I did send an email to info-en@wikimedia.org. I also appreciate your comment regarding correct information. I feel this is a huge problem these days. People do not thoroughly check their sources and feel just because it is in print, it is true. I feel the paragraph is irrelevant because Cynthia Rylant did not influence my career. It's unfortunate nowadays, if one dates someone from the same profession, it is considered, "news". How ridiculous. If she had an impact on my career whether negative or positive, it should definitely be included. She is someone I dated and I dated many other people who have had much more of a significant impact on my life. I think mentioning her in the article, leads people to believe our relationship was a lot more serious.58.92.253.234 (talk) 11:08, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.92.253.234 (talk)

Kostas Papanikolaou article

Hey, could you maybe watch the Kostas Papanikolaou article or set it to where IPs can edit for awhile? There has been a lot of changing the team and league he plays in recently on that article and none of the edits are valid. But numerous editors keep changing it. Thanks.Bluesangrel (talk) 23:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

ThanksBluesangrel (talk) 02:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Euroleague statistics

Leave them to me, you are deleting career averages section and make me much bigger job to update. I was busy so F4 team players (CSKA, Barca, Real and Olympiacos) wasn't updated. We clear? AirWolf (talk) 11:45, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Page protection request

Any way I could get you to protect Brock Gillespie so that only registered users can edit? There is a lot of incorrect info that keeps getting added (like that he played in the NBA, was a McDonald's All-American, etc) and valid info is being deleted (a stint in Finland, his birthplace, etc.) by a sreies of IP users who I assume is the same person using different devices. I spent time researching and fixing it once and have correct the egregious stuff, but if you can protect it from IPs editing I think it would be good. I can fix the article but I'm not interested if an IP is just going to come behind and re-wreck it. He's basically a minor basketball figure so the volume of edits on his article are kind of ridiculous. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Donald Sloan

This seems to be the only press release about Sloan being signed by the Pacers. You've been reverting this on his page and I agree with you because this was from July 3, 7 days before he could be officially signed. He does, however, feature on their roster and even has an assigned number. What do you think should happen with this? DaHuzyBru (talk) 01:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, I didn't know about about the "minimum salary deals". DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:14, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Ol Dirty Bastard & Pippen

It's a hidden track on the album, that's why it's not listed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luka1995 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I just noticed now, one of my friends told me about that FG% thing but I didn't bother to double check it Anyways, I got 2 questions regarding some quotes. I was watching the documentary film "Hardwood Heroes" in which Pippen is featured in and I heard some interesting quotes from his former team mates. My first question is should I add that in "Legacy" or "Player Profile"? and I don't really know what to put as reference for them, should I just make it like this:

Insert quote here bla bla bla - Steve Kerr, Hardwood Heroes(1998)

Also how is it possible to find who a certain photo is copywritten to? I found some photos of Pippen as a college player and as well as pictures from his NBA career to add to the page and as soon as I wanted to upload them I was asked to write down everything I knew from the photo, and seeing as how I just got it from a blog, I didn't know sh*t lol

Hey, I just added more info about the 1997 NBA finals on Scottie Pippen's page so I'd appreciate if you could review it and edit out all the mistakes in it. Also, do you know any sites that have photos which are free to use? Pippen's my favorite player all around and it's a damn shame that his page is so empty so I wanna add in a few things here and there to make it better, if what I did for the 1997 NBA finals is good I'll do the same for 96 and 98

Let me know, peace! My talk page

-Luka1995

Mavs

What do you make of this? Both Ellington and Ellis are listed on their official roster. Now, I know the Mavs are poor at press releases (or general news for that matter) so I'm not sure how to handle this. Chrishmt0423 was wondering the same thing. DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, InsideHoops does miss news as well. And you're right, both espn and nba.com transaction pages miss things all the time. I agree, they will officially sign him soon so we shall wait. Cheers Zag. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Josh Akognon and Bernard James

Do you know about their status? Reports are saying that both have been waived by the Mavs to create cap room for Monta Ellis. Yet I have trouble finding an official report for that.—Chris!_c/t 04:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what's going on. Reports are that Akognon has been claimed off waivers by Memphis, but there's no official confirmation of that. There was never a press release to say that Akognon had been waived in the first place. (Pretty much all the recent information about Akognon seems to come from Marc Stein.)

As for Bernard James, the latest reports are that he was waived, and then re-signed. [4] My guess is that Dallas was hoping to re-sign them both, which is why they never made any statement on the matter. But I'm not sure.

The most recent press release from the Mavs concerns the signing of Ricky Ledo: [5] Zagalejo^^^ 05:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

What about this? This says both have been "lost" via waived. This, however, also says that Wayne Ellington has been signed (and I saw this on July 10 which had Ellington there from the start so it's hard to tell how reliable this is). DaHuzyBru (talk) 06:45, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm. I don't know much about that page. I know the Free Agent Tracker page listed a lot of things before they were official. The link above says that Mike Miller is already on the Grizzlies, but I'm pretty sure the Grizzlies would have made an announcement about that. Zagalejo^^^ 02:44, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

No doubt. Ellington has been there since it was started so, again, it's hard to know. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:56, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

True. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:10, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Aaron Gray

Is Aaron Gray a free agent? He is listed on the FA tracker and is listed as a "FA" on the Raptors official roster. Reports, however, from last year stated that he signed a two-year contract: [6] [7]. What's your take? DaHuzyBru (talk) 13:02, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Didn't know about that. DaHuzyBru (talk) 00:16, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Request

Zag, can you please delete Template:Navabox? A newbie editor created it not knowing what he was doing and now it's stale and useless. Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 19:46, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

FAC: Trees (poem)

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Can you help me and another editor out with a question?

At the discussion here, Player nationality is set by what national team they play on?Bluesangrel (talk) 00:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I totally agree with what you said. We should start including two flags for cases like Simmons or Lojeski. It would definately be more accurate. The fact that Simmons took the Bulgarian citizenship doesn't mean he is Bulgarian for God's sake. I bet he doesn't speak a word of Bulgarian. Thank you for your intervention Zagalejo. Gtrbolivar (talk) 21:42, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Bramos or Calathes don't speak hardly a word of Greek and spent their wholes lives in USA. They are listed as Greeks though. Begic is Bosnian, not Slovenian, and listed in Olympiacos roster as a Slovene. We can find probably 50 other such examples. It's not only just about naturalized Americans playing for European national teams, it's about all the cases of dual nationality, which you are not including.Bluesangrel (talk) 23:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I replied at Gtrbolivar's talk page. Zagalejo^^^ 23:49, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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Edit on Charles Barkley

I noticed you deleted a photo of Charles Barkley with the Phoenix Suns. People would want to know how he looked like in a uniform. Whoever deleted the photo of him in a 76ers uniform is a scum because there are a good number of photos to use for this page. And you just removed a good one. Fine, how about leave the Barkley wiki page blank with no photos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marino13 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

User:Okolona1999

Could you check out this user's picture adding? I don't know much about what images are allowed or not, or if they are copyrighted etc. DaHuzyBru (talk) 03:59, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Eh, true. Cheers Zag. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:20, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

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Jarrett Jack

My source for the number is the Wikipedia template for the Cleveland Cavaliers Roster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miamiheat631 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Francisco Garcia

What do you think of Francisco Garcia? Nothing has been officially announced by the Rockets but this seems to be an "official announcement", however, I'm not quite sure. DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Page deletion

Also, could you have a look at Dante Chu and Dion Prewster and possibly removing them? A new user has created them with no to little info about them. They have both been tagged with PROD as well. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks (in regards to both queries). DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:08, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank You

Hey, I just want to say thank you for not being a jerk with some of the comments you left me. I have recently dealt with some really mean guys and every time you leave me a comment, you are just generally nice. Thank You very much.Miamiheat631 (talk) 01:41, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

A

I used the 'What links here' link left to the page. Then I added the category to every player that had a link to Shoeters Den Bosch. --Harryhurry (talk) 09:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Guy Williams (basketball)

I know it is skimming the line, but what do you think needs to be changed in the wording on the Guy Williams article? I would like to have some real content in the article, not just a stats summary like so many of the basketball articles seem to be.Hoops gza (talk) 04:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Dudley Moore

Hi there, I see you recently did a revert and other "corrections" to my "Dudley Moore" contributions. As a native and sports fan it is most assuredly "Dudley" and in fact no coach would ever last in the Pittsburgh area that referred to himself as something that sounds like doodey.

I have seen the 2,000 reprints of the AP article written by an early version of Jayson Blair misspelling the man's name. I am curious what yearbook or media guide you have seen, since none are listed as references on the man's wikiarticle.

If you wish for me to add references I will be happy to, it will be the funniest article on wikipedia for sure, in his time, what sounds like "doodey" wasn't his name. ^{Market St.⧏} _{⧐ Diamond Way} 11:59, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Toure Murry

Is this official? Sportando seems to be a pretty reliable source, especially with european basketball news. The Knicks didn't release anything on their news site so I'm not sure. DaHuzyBru (talk) 13:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks. Was thinking that too. DaHuzyBru (talk) 07:25, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Sidney Green

I do not believe that it is undue weight to list his nickname at least somewhere in the article with the proper citation. Perhaps it could be moved to somewhere else within the article. By the way, it sounds like you have electronic access to that Boston Globe article, just wondering, how do you have access to that article? I have access to pretty good newspapers resources, but I had to microfilm that article.Hoops gza (talk) 17:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! I have a CPL card. Which link did you use for the Boston Globe? That paper comes in handy quite often.Hoops gza (talk) 01:10, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I still don't see that article showing up in a search of the article title through that feature.Hoops gza (talk) 01:21, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see now. It wasn't in the article title. Thanks for the help!Hoops gza (talk) 04:24, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Miličic

The reason it's relevant (currently) is due to Rodman's antics in NK. Every newspaper, website, magazine is running "Crazy NBA player" "The craziest NBA team", etc. That's how I stumbled on the article (to find out more information after seeing him on such a list). I disagree mentioning it is the equivalent of "tabloid gossip". It has been widely reported in major news sources and books. I think a reasonable compromise might be to mention it in the article and where the source of the story came from (that it was an "player diary" and all other articles source that one report).

The reason I wanted to know more about the incident is because it seems so unlikely. It just wouldn't happen (it's not like his team is just going to hand him a wad of $50 bills in several suitcases every month is it? If it had happened you'd expect there to be financial irregularity inspections in the news at the same time too). So, when I didn't find the information I wanted, I did some digging and traced it back to that one article, thinking other people might visit the page looking for the same information I added the single sentence. Like I say, it's topical (sort of) because of other events.

I do agree that articles shouldn't be tabloid "shock stories", but pointing out where the rumour/anecdote/truth/untruth came from is (I think) useful information. Particularly as we've now narrowed it down to a single source which somewhat negates the validity of the thousands of hits you get if you type his name and add "bank".

I don't see it as vital information. If you insist on it not being there, so be it. I just thought that the edited version was more in line with your reason for removing it in the first place (specifically mentioning it was questionable and adding it was an anecdote attributed to one player).

Edit: BTW, you mention "I admitted people called it into question" - I was talking about you! :)

Bullblade (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

September 2013

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Can you please put the protection until the end of Eurobasket 2013 for page Serbia national basketball team? We again have the problem of deleting sources that say Serbia is not a successor state of pre-1992 Yugoslavia. In this case one unregistered user with just IP address makes me a problem. It is popular now as many fans during Eurobasket read and edit those pages, and Serbia is special because of history and Serb's mentality lets say hehe. AirWolf (talk) 12:26, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

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Can you please put the protection until the end of Eurobasket 2013 for page Serbia national basketball team? We again have the problem of deleting sources that say Serbia is not a successor state of pre-1992 Yugoslavia. In this case one unregistered user with just IP address makes me a problem. It is popular now as many fans during Eurobasket read and edit those pages, and Serbia is special because of history and Serb's mentality lets say hehe. AirWolf (talk) 12:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Ibaka/France

The evidence is flimsy. I saw it in an old digital edition of SLAM mag' I was reading and added it. Upon seeing your comment I searched online for another reference (thinking something must be documented) and funnily enough the only source I could find was the same article: http://www.slamonline.com/online/blogs/the-links/2011/05/power-serge/

I asked him on twitter! Ha! I don't expect he'll reply. If not I'll remove the line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bullblade (talk • contribs) 22:34, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

2012–13 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Because of your active involvement in Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juwan Howard/archive5, I thought you might be interested in commenting at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2012–13 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team/archive1.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:21, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Hilton Armstrong

Hilton Sr worked out with the Chaparrals but never played for them, so my mistake on that one. 50.138.199.209 (talk) 02:37, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 September 15

Perhaps you should expand your nomination to include the subcats of Category:American criminals by ethnic or national origin? (I'd leave the mobsters chain intact due to the notable ethnic component of many "mobs", though.)

Interesting article activity

At Mark Sanford (basketball). A user has only edited that article, adds info without sources, undoes formatting, and most significantly has added a ton of misleading (and in some cases patently false) info. Any recourse here? Rikster2 (talk) 03:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Personally I don't think stubbing it is a bad idea. Just spot checking, there are a lot of unverifiable pieces of info in there and some that is flat out false. For example, no such thing as being "ranked 22nd nationally by Parade All-America in the class of 1994" - there are about 40 Parade AAs every year so #22 would be on the team. Not sure what is going on with this article, but it has problems. Rikster2 (talk) 05:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Chicago bball players

I'll think about it, perhaps I'll remove the outliers and keep it to just Chicago.Hoops gza (talk) 04:53, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Tony Parker

Thanks for correcting Tony Parker to TP. I dedicate to you a song by Tony Parker "Premier Love" from the TP album. It features also the beautiful vocals of Rickwel. Here is the video and quite autobiographical actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcZJhSWz70 Enjoy and thanks. werldwayd (talk) 05:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Desmond Mason's page

Hi! I am working with Desmond Mason now to help spread the word about his art career now that he is no longer playing in the NBA. I read your notes on the edits made to my entries and appreciate the feedback. Can you tell me how we can add more detail and possibly images of his art now that that is his primary vocation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Mason

http://dmasonart.com/

Thanks, Laney586 (talk) 15:04, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Laney586 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laney586 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

In response: Thanks for the info. Here are some references outside of Desmond's website, http://dmasonart.com/. Please let me know if you need anything else & I will check with him regarding the images.

youtube.com/watch?v=eAMCajy1Q1o
okcfriday.com/a-different-desmond-mason-returns-to-okc-p5554-92.htm
edmondsun.com/local/x541282298/Mason-releases-first-edition-prints-art-book
distinctlyoklahoma.com/sports/desmondmason/
prweb.com/releases/2013/7/prweb10952264.htm
alliedartsokc.com/_blog/Allied_Arts_Blog/post/Desmond_Mason_Art_Show/
e2.ma/message/l5hug/19jj2g
newsok.com/article/3831421
amazon.com/This-City-Life-Desmond-Mason/dp/0713103442/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1380639482&sr=8-3&keywords=desmond+mason+art
sbnation.com/2013/2/3/3947168/desmond-mason-artwork-super-bowl-auction-new-orleans
dallas.culturemap.com/news/society/05-31-13-desmond-mason-art-exhibit-stay-zaza-art-house-capital-for-kids/

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Kirilenko

Unluckily, I haven't found any sources in the internet proving it. Some time ago I had a magazine about Russian/USSR national basketball team current and past roster. There was a lot of toughs about how it is and how it was formed from occupied nations. All I found in the internet is some kind book about Izhevsk people: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/izhevsk-books-llc/1022889954, which have chapter about Andrei Kirilenko. Too bad it's impossible to read it due to unknown reason... Hmm... Let's keep it like that for now. I'll try to find that magazine or any other sources in the future. Pofka (Talk) 21:24, 26 September 2013 (GMT +2)

National Basketball Association

Vandalism is still persistent. Perhaps the page needs greater protection? --George Ho (talk) 19:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Input Requested - NBA Head Coaches/templates

There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association#NBA Coaches/Franchise template to try to achieve some consensus around how NBA franchise head coaches are displayed in templates. As an experienced WP:NBA editor, your opinion is requested. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 19:59, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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Calvin Natt

The article began "Calvin Natt, aka 'The Dreaded Pit,' wrestled the bear, and the bear, New Jersey's Buck Williams, lost." Anyhow, the source you have found seems more reliable and a more commonplace nickname.Hoops gza (talk) 02:55, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

I've also found him being called "The Pit".Hoops gza (talk) 16:44, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Haddadi/Flynn

All good, Zag. Don't really know a whole lot about the CBA but I'm sure some official stuff will come out soon about them. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:22, 4 October 2013 (UTC)