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Welcome[edit]

Hello, Young Pioneer, and welcome to Wikipedia! I am Deepu Joseph. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Hello[edit]

Reference - I have made the page as a redirect. Thank you. --Bhadani 16:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Malayalam naming conventions[edit]

Hello! I am not aware of any separate naming conventions followed on Wikipedia for Malayalam. The Indic naming conventions are generally followed by most India realted articles. The page contains info that might interest you. Take a look. Cheers! -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Language[edit]

Perhaps it was intended to be Kodava ? See the list of Indian languages here. It does exist but is a minor language. Tintin (talk) 09:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*Scratches head* Okay. I'll confess my ignorance and concede the point :) Tintin (talk) 09:41, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coimbatore tamil spelling[edit]

Hi, I saw your question only today as I don't come to Wikipedia often these days. IMO, and going by the spelling used in Tamil Wiki, கோயம்புத்தூர் is the correct spelling. puttuur is a common suffix for many towns in Tamil Nadu and it means "new town". pattuur means "ten town" which is less likely to be the correct one. I think that pattuur is a spelling corruption caused due to anglicisation of the Tamil word. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 14:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Baburnama[edit]

I originally posted this on the Talk:Babur page, hope it helps.

"History has conspired to rob Babur not only of his fame as a Central Asian sovereign over the kingdom of Kabul for much longer than he was in the subcontinent, but also of his primary identity as a Timurid [ie. a Turco-Mongol dynast from the settled regions of Turkestan - Sikandarji] by labelling him and his successors as 'Mughals' - that is, Moghuls, or Mongols - an appellation that would not have pleased him in the least. In India the dynasty always called itself Gurkani, after Temür's title Gurkân, the Persianised form of the Mongolian kürügän, 'son-in-law', a title he assumed after his marriage to a Genghisid princess. Nonetheless, Europeans, recognising that there was some connection between Babur's house and the Mongols but ignorant of the precise relationship, dubbed the dynasty with some variant of the misnomer Moghul (Mogol, Mogul, Maghol etc.) and made the name synonymous with greatness." Wheeler M. Thackston The Babur-nama (New York) 2002 pxivi

Thackston uses the term 'Turco-Mongolian' throughout to describe Babur's ethnicity, insofar as that is relevant. He certainly spoke and wrote in Turkish. The term 'Moghul' properly refers to the ruling dynasty of Moghulistan or Jatah (roughly speaking northern Chinese Turkestan, or Dzungaria), which was ruled by descendants of Genghis Khan's son Chagatai and is hence sometimes known as the Chagatai Khanate. Its history is somewhat obscure, but the principal source is Mirza Muhammad Haidar Dughlat's Ta'rikh-e Rashidi. The author of this work was Babur's cousin, and on pxliii of Thackston's introduction to the Babur-nama he quotes from p97 of the Elias & Denison-Ross translation, which illuminates at once the unity of culture amongst the Turco-Persian Timurid elite, and the meaning given by contemporaries to the name 'Moghul'

"I heard that Yunus Khan [one of the sons of the lord of Moghulistan] was a Moghul, and I concluded that he was a beardless man, with the ways and manners of any other Turk of the desert. But when I saw him, I found he was a person of elegant deportment, with a full beard and a Tajik face, and such a refined speech and manner, is seldom to be found even in a Tajik."

A distinction thus has to be made between notional ethnicity, (turco-mongol) and culture & language (turco-persian). Sikandarji 11:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Otherwise you could look at Mohibbul Hasan's Babur (Delhi) 1985, John F Richards The Mughal Empire (Cambridge) 1993 and have a look at the bibliographies. The two most important contemporary sources apart from the Baburnama itself are Khwandamir's Habibu's Siyar, of which an English translation was published a few years ago by Thackston at Harvard, and Mirza Muhammad Haidar Dughlat's Ta'rikh-e Rashidi, of which there is a new translation by Thackston in the same series, and an older, more easily available one by N. Elias & E. Denison Ross, originally published in the 1890s. Sikandarji 20:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help! Regards--Young Pioneer 13:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have done a major upgrade to the article, in case you wish to port it to German WP. cheers --IslesCapeTalk 12:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uttar Pradesh article on de Wikipedia[edit]

Hello, yes you are right, I have used google translate for this job, but as a beginner(for German Language) it seemed correct to me; any ways i'll take care of your advice for future edits, thanx for your attention. Sayed Mohd Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 06:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okeedokee, if you need help with translations, you can always ask me! Regards--Young Pioneer (talk) 14:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Germany Invitation[edit]

Hello, Young Pioneer! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.


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