User talk:Thief12/Archive 7

2011

This is the archive of my conversations that occurred from January to December 2011.

Invitation to join WikiProject United States

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Flatfoot 56

Hey. When adding reviews make sure they are good reviews. cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 23:29, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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Gabrielle Giffords

Do you have a reliable source indicating she has died? If not we can't include that information. Prodego ^talk 05:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I read it first in a Spanish source (not this one, but is another anyway) and now it's even on Yahoo. Thief12 (talk) 06:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Several hours ago, many reliable sources were reporting she had died, and retracted their statements. Your first link is dead, and the second was last updated 10 hours ago, so I assume both of those sources are actually incorrect. Prodego ^talk 06:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

It's okay then. Since I saw several sources reporting it, I thought about making the edit. Thief12 (talk) 06:23, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Greetings

Hello. The article about the Centro del Sur mall is being nominated for deletion. You may wish to participate in the discussion taking place HERE. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Music Barnstar

		The Music Barnstar
		For all of your efforts to improve music-related articles, I hereby award you the Music Barnstar. Your efforts are appreciated! Royalbroil 03:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I would appreciate your opinion

Since I don't know what position you would take I don't think this is trolling. I think that the lede of Contemporary Christian music needs to be reviewed. In particular the list of artists should be updated. I have started a conversation at Talk:Contemporary Christian music#Change to the bands in the lede (February 2011). Please contribute if you find the time. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Leo Fernández III

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Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Julissa albums

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Proposed deletion of Gustavo Laureano

The article Gustavo Laureano has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Visited through WP:URBLP and searched for reliable sources. However, I have found non (also no other sources that offer any content besides identifying Laureano as a member of the band). There is therefore no way to check or add material to this article other than what is covered at the band article itself. I checked WP:MUSICBIO and believe the best option would be to make this page a redirect to the band page: WP:La Secta AllStar.

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Charts for Jars of Clay's version of "I'll Fly Away"

I don't know if you have access to any charts from 2005 that may show the Jars of Clay's "I'll Fly Away", but if you do, please add a source. If you have info on other charting versions, please add those as well. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

According to the Billboard website, that song never charted. I'll keep an eye on other charts, though. Thief12 (talk) 22:16, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I saw that. The song was apparently released as a single to radio and one station charted it (it was their No. 1 for 2005) but I can't find anything else. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:01, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Oleander (album)

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Re: Bleacher

Hey, no problem.This just a bs site, people posting articles there (like Gerald Wallace is better than Dirk Nowitzki here, just look at the comments from the writer down there) and those things. So there are no facts or anything important in it so a bad to site to reference. Even you and I can come up and post an article there, so don´t use it in the future. ;-) Kante4 (talk) 18:07, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Oleander (album) for deletion

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Deng

No worries. I hope you didn't take my comments personally. That new reference is perfect. Zagalejo^^^ 03:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Resolved Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

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Resolved Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I want BarlowGirl members back on lists of players

I still don't think it was right to erase the individual members' articles; much more could have been added by fans like myself. Some of us are trying to make them relevant and famous, and this makes them seem like THEY DON'T EXIST. As a BG fan and bassist, how do you think I feel if I don't see Alyssa Barlow in the "List of Bass Guitarists"? Uninspired!!

Could we at least keep them in the lists (Bass, Guitar - Becca, Drums - Lauren) while still redirecting to the BG page? It's important to have them there. It raises our morals as fans to see the gals recognized.

This is not an attack. I can edit and maintain the pages if necessary, and become a Wiki registered user.

Please pass this on to Walter.

Thief12, thanks for reading, from your fellow Boricua, Ramon Matos barlowrocker@yahoo.com66.176.37.38 (talk) 00:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Since you don't have an account, I don't know if you'll ever read this. But I'll try and answer your concerns:

• First, there's a policy in Wikipedia (WP:MUSICBIO) to determine the notability of artists and musicians, and none of the Barlow girls fills the criteria. It doesn't matter how good they are, or how notable they are as a band, but if none of them have made a significant career OUTSIDE of the band (for example, John Schlitt from Petra or Steven Tyler from Aerosmith, to name just two different examples) an article for each of the sisters is bound to get merged or even deleted sooner or later.
• Second, you - and everyone else - are entitled AND encouraged to expand and/or create any worthy article within Wikipedia, as long as it fills the necessary policies of the site for new articles. If you feel you can expand the articles of the Barlow girls beyond of what they do in their band, then you're encouraged to do it. When I proposed the merger, I gave a whole week for any edit, change, or expansion to be done in the articles, but nothing happened. As per the policies, I proceeded with the merger. But that doesn't mean you can't create the articles again IF you think the articles would comply with the notability guidelines mentioned above.
• Third, artists aren't made "relevant and famous" by appearing on Wikipedia. I doubt the Barlow girls need an article for each of them to increase their popularity. As you can see here, Wikipedia is not a way to promote artists, nor you should put them down by saying that if they don't have individual articles, it is as if "they don't exist". Instead, be proud of your favorite band, and focus on improving the BarlowGirl article to highlight the greatness of these talented girls.
• Fourth, I don't think I took their names from any list of bassists or musicians, so feel free to add them. But make sure that their names link to the BarlowGirl articles where anyone that doesn't know who they are can read about the band.
• Fifth, you can contact Walter Görlitz in his own page. Feel free to visit his talk page and write any message there. I don't know him and I don't keep in touch with him.
• Sixth, you are encouraged by Wikipedia to become a registered user. If you feel you can contribute to the encyclopedia in an encyclopaedic manner, then you're welcome to register and contribute your knowledge about artists, music, or anything else.

I hope to see you collaborate soon around here! Take care and feel free to write me if you have any other questions. Paz! Thief12 (talk) 01:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hello, I was hoping you can add some references to this article? Its in the current batch of articles we are tackling at Wikipedia:Unreferenced BLP Rescue, and I fear it will be deleted otherwise. Cheers.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 14:16, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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Expedition Impossible Article

Hi there, I have added the details for episode 8. My English is not perfect so it would be good if you can go through my writing and tidy them up a bit. :) Also, the word kasbah is capitalized on the show's official website. Do you think we should capitalize it too on the wiki page? 07 Matthew (talk) 06:45, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

It was practically perfect. I just gave it a slight fix here and there. About the word "kasbah", I don't know because kasbah is just a common name for fortresses/citadels, and there are so many seen in the show that I'm not sure if it deserves capitalizing unless the full name of the kasbah is given. Thief12 (talk) 20:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Two episodes left. I hope there'll be season 2. :) 07 Matthew (talk) 21:36, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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November 2011

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In your recent edit to List of Grey's Anatomy characters, you added links to an article which did not add content or meaning, or repeated the same link several times throughout the article. Please see Wikipedia's guideline on links to avoid overlinking. Thank you. TRLIJC19 (talk) 16:37, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

But the link worked. I added the link to Pediatric surgery because it had a red link. Since the other characters had similar links to Cardiothoracic Surgery, Neurosurgery, Plastic surgery, and whatnot, I thought that a link to Pediatric surgery would be appropriate. Thief12 (talk) 04:39, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes, sorry! My bad I must have misread it. I've reverted it back to how you had it. Happy editing! TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:47, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

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Chief of Staff

The position of the Governor of Puerto Rico's Chief of Staff has been called in Spanish different ways under different governors or, as you comment, even under one same Governor---Hernández Colón---but in English it has always been referred to as Chief of Staff. The current official name of "Secretario de la Gobernación" is actually somewhat misleading because the title of "Secretary" or "Secretario" is normally reserved for someone who heads a major agency known as a "department" created by the Constitution or by statute and subject to legislative advice and consent, but has been used so as to elevate its ranking to a level at least equal to that of other "Secretaries" (while, de facto, the Chief of Staff has more power, constitutionally the Secretary of State is the highest ranking de jure---in fact, he's currently serving as Acting Governor this weekend while the Governor is off the island---but probably consults any major decision with the Governor or the Chief of Staff). I think we are safe and accurate in using the title of Chief of Staff as translation to "Secretario de la Gobernación". Pr4ever (talk) 04:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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Larry Seilhamer

There was already an article for that person :Larry Seilhamer Rodriguez. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 02:15, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

My bad. Since it wasn't linked to the Senate of Puerto Rico article, I supposed there wasn't one and created it. I should've checked better. What do you think would be the best procedure in this case? Which one should be the one to merge with? Thief12 (talk) 03:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I already did a redirect. Read here for more info. Thief12 (talk) 06:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

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Hope you have a great time tonight and all of next year!!! RE: LSR, don't worry about anything, I always thought you did everything in good faith. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 13:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)