User talk:TheBirdsShedTears/Archives/2021/July

About the Draft:2004 Connecticut State Senate election

So I see you declined the draft because it should be merged into an exisiting article 2004 United States Senate election in Connecticut. The thing is those are two different elections, even though they're in the same state. They shouldn't be merged. The draft article is at the State level and the 2004 United States Senate election in Connecticut is at the federal level. Dillon251992 (talk) 15:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Dillon251992, thanks for letting me know that they're two different elections. I just came across some articles here 2012 United States Senate election in Connecticut / 2012 Connecticut State Senate election and

2018 Connecticut State Senate election / 2018 United States Senate election in Connecticut. You may resubmit your draft. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

No problem. It can be confusing as they are identical. I should had put a Distinguish on it. I'm glad you were able to just accept the draft without the wait process even though you were ok with me resubmitting it. I thank you for that. Dillon251992 (talk) 20:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

About ALDO CARRASCOSO page

Hi,

I would like to ask for further clarifications regarding the secondary sources used in the page draft titled Aldo Carrascoso. Which particular references are not accepted? I've provided quite the references list from local and international media that have been covering his and his company's work. Would gladly accept any help possible. Thank you!

PioVG14, None of reliable sources talks about subject. If you think the added sources are independently about your submission, please link one here. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Saturday AM (magazine)

Fico Puricelli, I am currently working on old submissions that are awaiting review. Any unsourced material must not be added to submissions as it leads to submission decline, reject or delay in accepting. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:29, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for everything, and sorry if I wrote something out of the question. I still need a way to expand, but it will take a lot of time. Fico Puricelli (talk) 11:42, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

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Regarding shortcuts

Can you please tell me how to use shortcuts as referencing to wiki pages like WP:REFB Thank you (This is me Jarvis (talk) 06:46, 9 July 2021 (UTC))

This is me Jarvis, visit any Wikipedia project page and you see shortcuts on the right side of the page. For instance, if you try to link Wikipedia:Citation overkill, you may visit this page and find shortcuts on its right side. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

I think I have learnt the above mentioned query. So not to address that. But can you tell me how to use twinkle while recent changes patrolling Thank you. (This is me Jarvis (talk) 06:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC))

Please ask any question regarding twinkle at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 07:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft

Hi, you recently reviewed draft:Empower Work, I would like to thank you for what is basically an instant review. I have added one more source to the article, and I think it's enough sources to have atleast 2 reliable sources that provide significant coverage to the topic.

https://qz.com/work/1419478/empower-work-lets-anxious-employees-text-counselors-for-free/ Quartz

https://www.fastcompany.com/40499797/can-these-apps-help-you-when-your-hr-department-fails Fast Company

https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/10/hr-has-lost-the-trust-of-employees-here-is-who-has-it-now/ Tech Crunch

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/careers-finance/sns-volunteering-can-help-gain-skills-and-land-job-20200225-jh27f7zxtrewlm5j3sr67xq2nu-story.html Chicago Tribune

If you think it passes GNG, please be really nitpicky about the tone of the article, I'll appreciate any feedback you give me, thanks!

--Justiyaya 07:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm going to now analyze my sources:

Quartz: Mentioned founder's name 8 times mentioned organization name 6 times, basically the whole article is about it

Fast Company: Founder's name 2 times, organization name 3 times Whole article is basically about it, provides a criticism section (I should include that in the article)

Tech Crunch: 6 mentions for organization name, 8 mentions for founder name, section written about it (not the whole article) about 1/4-1/3

Chicago Tribune (newly added): 3 mentions for founder's name and another 3 for organization name. Article is basically interviews with NGOs and people who volunteered there, about half of the article covers the organization.

I believe that the article at least has 2-3 reliable sources that provide significant coverage, and maybe 4.

-- Justiyaya 15:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Justiyaya, if you believe added sources are sufficient to justify notability, you may resubmit it for AfC review. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Done, thanks! Justiyaya 16:31, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Reason for your rejection

Hi,

You rejected my draft article on the NACK-Oriented Reliable Multicast (NORM) protocol because "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources."

I modeled my submission on the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) article. In fact, I copied the TCP article and basically started rewriting everything to match the NORM protocol. With the exception of the Background section, all the information about the protocol comes from the IETF Request for Comment document, in this case RFC 5740. I also compared my NORM article to another transport layer protocol article, Stream Control Transmission Protocol, and think my article is much better supported.

Could you please tell me more precisely what you think is lacking? Because again——with the exception of the Background paragraph, which I took great pains to document——everything in there comes right from the RFC, just as TCP, UDP, and SCTP do.

Thanks. Rick Jones (talk) 18:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

RichardWJones, I have not rejected your submission. I have declined because;

"NORM architectural constructs", "NORM message structure", and "Protocol operation" sections are completely unreferenced. Please review WP:V for more information about implementing reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:25, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Either remove any unsourced material or cite with reliable entries. Once your submission is ready for mainspace, you may leave a note on my talk page. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the specifics. You do understand, though, that all of those sections are derived from the ur-document, RFC 5740, which was referenced in the very first or second sentence of the article, right? Rick Jones (talk) 18:40, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

What i mean is that the mentioned sections are not cited. Please add reference as you have added to "Background" section. Your submission is cited with 9 references (external links) but rest parts are not cited. For instance, let's say "COVID" have caused many deaths across various countries. But how can one verify this claim unless it is not cited with sources such as books, newspapers, journals etc?. To be more specific, Wikipedian articles must be well-sourced with inline citations like ([1]). Please read WP:IC and WP:CS.

TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:55, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

OK, all the sections that were not cited are now cited and I have resubmitted it. Rick Jones (talk) 19:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Would you please remove external link from the body text (RFC 5740 Section 4.1) and change them in (inline citations refNORM Common Message Header and Extensions /ref)? TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 19:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Done Rick Jones (talk) 19:52, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Stephen Hogan

Thanks for your rejection on the Stephen Hogan article. Have you even seen his movie Starship Troopers 3: Marauder before calling yourself a cinephile? There are way less notable persons here on Wikipedia who have a page. This is ridiculous. Supermann (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Supermann, he might be a prominent actor, but notability is demonstrated by WP:V and WP:RS. trivial mentions are not enough to satisfy notability. Please refer to WP:NPA for future reference. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:24, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

With five major newspaper saying he is an actor and so much filmography, which is incomplete, why do you keep saying it's not verifiable or reliably sourced. This just doesn't make sense. But obviously, he didn't have an Oscars if that's what you mean about being notable. If you compare him to the rest of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_male_film_actors, there are others that should be turned back to draft status by your standard. Please be fair. That's all I am asking. Thanks! Supermann (talk) 18:22, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

If you believe your submission is notable, you may resubmit it for AfC review. Please see WP:COI for future reference. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

If you think other articles should be moved to draftspace, you may take them to AfD. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't do lose-lose. I do win-win. It doesn't benefit readers at all by putting him in a draft status. It seems you have a myopic view, with all due respect. There is no conflict of interest whatsoever, btw. Supermann (talk) 22:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Lucinda nicholas

What does your comment mean by it should be redirected? Positiveilluminati (talk) 08:16, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

She has received media coverage for her role in Bigg Boss (Hindi season 11). She is not notable at all. See WP:NMODEL. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Sk Wasim Akram draft

Thanks for declining the draft. I was requested by someone to create an article on this person. I knew he wasn't notable enough, but I can't say no directly to someone and thus accepted it. Thanks for saving me.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  16:50, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

NPOV

Hello TheBirdsShedTears. You provided feedback on a page I had input on. Can you please provide feedback on the issue and if the amendments are satisfactory? Draft:Lil_Mussie

Biographygenius1, It lacks neutral point of view and reads like an advertisement. Also, this submission fails to pass WP:MUSICBIO. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:25, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Re: Afripedia

Dear User TheBirdsShedTears,

Thank you very much for reviewing the draft article I created, Afripedia.

You declined it on the basis of: "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources."

Would you be so kind to specify what resources are unreliable out of those I have listed?

It would be of great help if you specified what are the problematic resources so I can improve the article's quality.

Many thanks and kind regards,

YNovakovic (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

YNovakovic, I have left a comment on your submission. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks!

YNovakovic (talk) 14:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding M. R. Kamala draft wiki page

Draft page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:M._R._Kamala

Thank you for taking time to review the draft. Appreciate the time and effort. I think there is some confusion. Sahitya Akademi Award is different from Karnataka Sahitya Academy award. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnataka_Sahitya_Academy). This is also a prestigious award given for the Kannada language authors. Govt. of Karnataka confers the award.

To quote English source: https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/opinion/views/translating-lives-mr-kamala/articleshow/58565412.cms

"These books received several awards including the Karnataka Sahitya Academy book award, Translation Academy award, ..."

174.127.232.227 (talk) 03:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

174.127.232.227, please remove promotional wording as suggested by other reviewers. Once it is done, your submission will be reviewed per added sources. At present, it is not suitable for mainspace. Regards TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the response. Could you please quote promotional wording? That would really help.

174.127.232.227 (talk) 18:24, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

174.127.232.227, your draft claims that M. R. Kamala was awarded Karnataka Sahitya Academy Award, but unfortunately there are no such reliable sources that could verify the claim. If you have one, please update you AfC submission. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I think this news website is a reliable source. "These books received several awards including the Karnataka Sahitya Academy book award, Translation Academy award, ..." https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/opinion/views/translating-lives-mr-kamala/articleshow/58565412.cms This source is already present in the wiki.

I added an inline citation linking to this source at the place where I am mentioning Karnataka Sahitya Academy Award in AFC. I have resubmitted the article for review.

Appreciate your time and effort, thanks again!

2620:10D:C090:400:0:0:5:8AEA (talk) 20:22, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

For future assistance regarding your AfC submission, please ask questions at Teahouse. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 21:05, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Amol Laxman kagne

It's a funny thing that there are a total of 59 news articles and six movies are currently available for that person on the OTT platform... He is the producer of the National Award winning film and he is the lead actor in that film 😂😂😂😂 Waaaari (talk) 08:37, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

You guys really review pages on Wikipedia or entertain people Waaaari (talk) 08:40, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Waaaari, I have addressed all the issues on your submission. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

आप लोग सच में पेजेस रिव्यू करते हैं कि लोगों का मनोरंजन करते हैं आपने मुझे इस पेज के इतने सोर्स होते हुए भी यह पेज आपने ड्राफ्ट में डाल दिया है...

Kashmorwiki ऐसा ही आपका एक मेंबर था जो विकीपीडिया पेजेस डिलीट करता था या ड्राफ्ट में डालता था वही 6/7 अकाउंट यूज करता था... अब जल्द ही आपका नंबर आएगा ब्लॉक लिस्ट में

Waaaari (talk) 08:54, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

आपको विकिपीडिया पर ईमानदारी से Review करना चाहिए ना की किसी को टारगेट करके विकीपीडिया पेज डिलीट करना या ड्राफ्ट में डालना ऐसा काम नहीं करना चाहिए Waaaari (talk) 08:56, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Waaaari, report this to WP:ANI than making false claims. Please review WP:CIV for future reference. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:05, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

😂😂😂😂 Waaaari (talk) 09:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Solita

Thank you for reviewing Draft:Solita_(company). Your reason was like: "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies." I'm not sure what you mean by this. So is there some problems in the wording of the article? Or do you think the sources I've used are not good enough for Wikipedia? Cheers Jjanhone (talk) 16:27, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Jjanhone, Sorry for not explaining in detail, but here are some quick suggestions that may require attention.

X is "involved" (participate) in national projects in Finland "like" (such as) X3, a mobile application to track exposure to COVID-19

In March 2015, X established a new business unit, X2, which "specialised for example" in (which focuses on) service design and user experience design.

With "more than" (over) 500 employees

Your submission reads like an essay than presenting it in formal WP:TONE.

There are no forbidden words on Wikipedia, but articles must be written in proper tone.

It is not necessary to implement what I said, you can rewrite your submission according to Wikipedia guidelines and reliable sources.

Thanks a lot! As I'm not a native English speaker getting the tone of different words is difficult. So your concrete examples were very very helpful! I also asked help from the IRC channel and was adviced to reduce the amount of chapters. So let's see if the article is any better now, I resubmitted it again. :) Jjanhone (talk) 18:22, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Sefa article

Hi there, thank you for reviewing my article about Sefa! You pointed me to the WP:MUSICBIO. Criterion 12 is - Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. Sefa was featured on SLAM FM, a Dutch national radio station. He had a 30 minute performance and then had an interview on the radio afterwards. The source is in the article, and the fact that he played on the radio station is in the article as well.

For your convenience, here is the source: https://www.slam.nl/video/kijk-dit-is-frenchcore-drpeacock-sefa-in-het-avondcircus

Criterion 7 is - Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city. In this case, Sefa is without a doubt the most prominent artist in the "Euphoric frenchcore" genre as he pioneered it, and is responsible for getting the genre to major established festivals. He is featured as the representative of this style in a film which is on Netflix: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13517474/

Can you please let me know if this information is enough to establish notability? Thanks!

Hardcontributor, Please review 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, and 10th as well. Musicians must be part of some notable albums and singles. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 20:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

criteria for speedy deletion

Anmol Sheraz is leaving person and i also refer best quality links from his related work and fulfilled all requirement of Wikipedia leaving person policy. For your convenience, here is the source: https://www.hilal.gov.pk/her-article/detail/NDE1Nw==.html 2. https://www.hilal.gov.pk/her-article/detail/NDE1Nw==.html 3.https://www.hilal.gov.pk/her-author/anmol-sheraz/MTA0NA==.html ASP

Article: Hafiz Hanif

Hi there. Thank you for reviewing the article. I understand the reason behind it. I have now deleted parts of the article where it linked to paid services. Please reconsider the article for approval. Thank you. Najfeez (talk) 01:36, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Rejection of Draft:Zaid Ali

Hello @TheBirdsShedTears:, it's quite some time since I left message for you on my talk page. (Sorry, I forget to ping you there). I've concerns regarding AfC rejection of Draft:Zaid Ali. You declined this draft about Pakistani YouTuber/Vlogger on basis of Vandalism done by Zaid ali007 (born; September 8th, 1997) an indian Mechanical Engineer who studied from Babu Banarasi Das University Lucknow (as what he wrote in vandalism edit), which was eventually reverted by Sasquatch. I think there was a misunderstanding in that rejection, Thank you. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 06:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Abdulhaseebatd, I haven't rejected your submission, I have only declined it. If you believe it is sufficient to pass notability, you may resubmit it for AfC review. Regards TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:43, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Rejection of Draft:Bishwa Prakash Sharma

Hi there! Greetings.I've concerns regarding AfC rejection of Draft:Bishwa Prakash Sharma. Please refer to Google search what he is and what Nepali Congress is in reality! I have added reference. He is one of the top 5 notable youth leader of Nepal while Nepali Congress is the current governing party of Nepal, a national party. See article belonging to The Right Honourable PM of Nepal, Sher Bahadur Deuba. Sharama in recent past was President of NSU, the largest student wing of any party in Nepal. Nepali Congress has had national government for more than 10 times in past. It the largest democratic party in Nepal, not a regional/local party as you mentioned in reason for rejection! Please think or confirm before mentioning something you are unknown of. Again, I request you to rethink and verify well before rejecting any draft to be published. Apologies, if I have written wrong but I know you too would be guilt knowing this.110.44.121.41 (talk) 17:37, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

President of a youth wing with no notable campaigns is clearly not notable. Please refer to WP:COI and WP:NPOL for future reference. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Presidents of NSU whom Sharma succeeded are either Prime Minister of Nepal else Home Minister. Very few of them have been just a minister. You can find this yourself. I have added news of National dalies of Nepal. If Mr. Sharma us not notable, why is his name recurring in recent times in these news papers? Do you have any answer? See, even mayors of Nepal have Wikipedia article. For reference see articles made on Spokesperson of Governing parties of Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, etc. I again request you not to take much notability proof from me. Just see recurring news articles on Google from National Dalies of Nepal and his interviews in National TV channels of Nepal. And latest is of today. Just here:-[1] And please see the reactions of people, views in few hours of publishing. I again request you to see whose interviews are present in this series. All are the top notable leaders else present or former ministers/PMs. By the way which country do you belong to? Second point of WP:NPOL says:-Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. Still Sharma is National political figure.110.44.121.41 (talk) 18:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

If you find non-notable political spokesperson-related articles on Wikipedia (same as your draft), please find one a such article and I would appreciate you for this effort. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Also, significant coverage refers to reliable sources that independently discuss the subject in detail. See trivial mentions. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 19:03, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 13:41:33, 15 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Excellenc1

• Excellenc1 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:La France Audacieuse (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

In this draft, I have cited every sentence in all paragraphs. Why should I unnecessarily add more citations? Do I need to replace the citations? Excellenc1📞 13:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Some of its parts are cited with party's own website. Another source media-web.fr appears potentially unreliable. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:45, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Then what about this article on Independent Ecological Alliance? It has only two citations, where one is from the party's own site. If that can be an article, why not mine? Excellenc1📞 14:17, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't know anything about Independent Ecological Alliance's article. I am talking about you AfC submission. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:19, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I am giving the article as an example that the article has only two citations, which might look sufficient for its size but considering that one is from its party's site itself, it has only one citation. So in that comparison, in my draft, I have 8 citations: 7 independent sites and 1 party's own site. (Citation number 2 and 3 is of another organisation named France Audacieuse, not to be confused with the party's site) Isn't that ok? Excellenc1📞 14:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Also, why is media-web.fr said to be unreliable? Should I assume that it is not notable so it is not reliable? Excellenc1📞 14:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't know if it is accepted. However, you may resubmit it, and other AfC participants will review your draft. We have 2,093 pending submissions waiting for review. Please see WP:IDPRIMARY. You may ask for assistance at WP:AFCHD regarding this draft. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

As per your suggestion, I checked with WP:IDPRIMARY, media-web.fr is independent and self-published. Also I put a request on AfC Help Desk regarding the approval. Thank you for being here. Excellenc1📞 15:21, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

No non-free copyrighted content. Only free content used.

Hello TheBirdsShedTears:

Thank you for reviewing Family Enterprise USA.

All content used to create the page is free, there is no non-free copyrighted content.

If I've made a mistake in attributing of free content, could you direct me to a resource, or tell me how to do this correctly?

Thanks again, --Dukeofarc (talk) 17:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)Dukeofarc

Dukeofarc, If copied content is free under relevant license, we use CC-notice, for example Cc-by-4.0. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 19:13, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much for that reference TheBirdsShedTears, I have added a CC-notice. Could you check for me I've this is correct and I picked the right location on the page? --Dukeofarc (talk) 19:51, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

About Draft:Samir Sabri

Look now please 👀 , Thanks. -Alberto Farerro (talk) 09:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 04:55:12, 17 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by RameshR.18.3200

• RameshR.18.3200 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Kilaparti Ramakrishna (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I need a photo added to the Kilaparti Ramakrishna Wikipedia page. Also more information. Please make this as awesome as possible. Thx.

RameshR.18.3200 (talk) 04:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Jellyfish

Have you even reviewed Draft:Jellyfish Pictures? I have enough sources so far. Im doing my best to follow the rules. BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 18:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Clarification on rejection for Royal Ambarrukmo

Hello TheBirdsShedTears,

I understand that you have recently rejected my draft for Draft:Royal Ambarrukmo having tagged it as "not adequately supported by reliable sources".

I was wondering if I could get a further clarification on your decision?

I am asking this because the sources I have referred to included articles from National Newspapers, a journal article from a University Database, as well as articles from the local government and the Indonesian Ministry of Education, Culture, Research and Technology. Only one of the sources are considered primary (website of the hotel) and that was used to cite basic information. Several of the sources are in Indonesian, but they are translatable via translating engines like google translate. As an example, I have inputted the sources onto Google Translate, and they were translated successfully without much trouble.

I just would like to request further clarification, as it is in my honest belief that apart from one source, all the others are verifiable and independent of the organisation/hotel in question.

Many thanks

Okadiputera (talk) 11:03, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I have l left a comment with number of references. They are unclear as they have not mentioned subject's name. Sources that do not discuss subject are pointless. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, you're talking about Draft:Royal Ambarrukmo? It needs additional sources from newspapers, books, magazines, etc. than citing with closely associated sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:14, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi TheBirdsShedTears. Yes, I was talking about Draft:Royal Ambarrukmo. Thanks for your input, I'll find and add more sources of those kinds where appropriate, in addition to the existing newspaper sources I've added. Cheers. Okadiputera (talk) 12:52, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Neutral Baa

ty for reminding me of the importance of NPOV!

Gyofh (talk) 11:30, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:EC1 Science and Technology Center in Łódź

Hello, I put some new references from other sources than website of EC1. There are very few information of EC1 Science and Technology Center in english, so I put all I was able to find. What I need to do, to publish this draft in the proper way? Wikol86 (talk) 11:46, 18 July 2021 (UTC) This article is translation from polish wikipedia -> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrum_Nauki_i_Techniki_EC1_w_%C5%81odzi Wikol86 (talk) 15:41, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikol86, If you think your draft is ready, you may resubmit it and AfC reviewers will review your draft. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:45, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

AFC thought

Thank you for putting the comment at Draft:Zivojin Boskov about it being a direct translation of another site. If you see such content in the future, please feel free to a) decline the draft as cv, and b) nominate it for WP:G12 deletion (which is usually part of the package of declining). Primefac (talk) 14:08, 18 July 2021 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

Primefac, Thank you for letting me know about this package of declining. Actually, I wasn't sure how to deal with such AfC submissions, and I put a comment instead without taking any action such "decline" or nominating it for G12. Thanks TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:26, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Melbourne Cup

Hey there, on that races com au site, I guess it seems like a news site to me because they have offices ([2]) and journalistic staff ([3]). Then again they have a big link to "Betting Agencies Australia" on their page, probably not a good sign...what do you think? --Cerebellum (talk) 10:21, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Cerebellum, Thank you for taking the time to explain about this site more efficiently. It appears, Races com.au staff members are also writing for Muck Rack 1, 2, 3. I believe Races com.au is a reliable news portal. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 10:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Great, I'll accept the article :) --Cerebellum (talk) 10:55, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Cerebellum, ok ;) TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:07, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Abhijit Ashok Paul's article can be reconsidered

Abhijit Ashok Paul is a famous Indian director, And he has received National Awards among many films, Am I won the first place award in India, Then I don't understand why he is not going to keep Wikipedia, Please explain to me. And besides, he has a lot more national news that I didn't feel the need to give in the article. GBPrakashani (talk) 10:46, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

GBPrakashani, which awards? He has not been nominated for any national award than SRK's ghost story competition and Inlaks award, both of which are non-notable awards. Also, there is no significant coverage about him. Please read WP:FILMMAKER. He has not created notable films than Am I, which is not sufficient to establish notability. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:05, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry sir, its my mistake, i wanted to say National level award. He has got last year a national level award from NFDC & MINISTEY OF I&B. Film name is 'Am I' GBPrakashani (talk) 11:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC) Thanking You For Your valuable time and Fruitful Words.

He has created only one film. And Wikipedia guidelines says, The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.. If it is accepted, i am sure it will be taken to AfD. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 07:59:53, 21 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Rcalbertini

• Rcalbertini (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Dino Athanassiou (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi There, This is my first time writing a Wikipedia page and I was hoping to get more specifics of why the page is being declined and some pointers on how I can improve it and make a quality publishable material.

Appreciate the help.

Rcalbertini (talk) 07:59, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Rcalbertini (talk) 07:59, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Rcalbertini, Introducing promotional wording leads a draft decline. Terms such as "understanding of morality", "Dino was responsible for completing....", " truly supportive and inspirational" etc. must not be added. Read more on WP:NPOV and WP:TONE. Neutrality is one of the 5 pillars of Wikipedia. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:41, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 08:25:14, 21 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Blckbx173

• Blckbx173 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Blckbx173 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello TheBirdsShedTears,

I saw you reviewed my draft for the article of Moritz Löhner and declined it because of copy paste text. Is it because of the topic "SimRacing Esports Career"? I think that might be an issue as it's the same text as on another website that I wrote myself about him. Even if I wrote that text do I still need to write it different here although it's coming from the same person?

Cheers and thanks for any help!

Blckbx173 (talk) 08:25, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Blckbx173, even if you own website, you MUST not add copyrighted material to Wikipedia. This is a crucial part of Wikipedia which must be followed strictly. If you own website where you have taken copyrighted material, you first need to donate copyright material to Wikipedia. In case you site contents are published under free licence or has been published under public domain, you must indicate proper licensing by using relevant licensing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:51, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 07:17:58, 22 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Hollerme

• Hollerme (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Bizhan Tong (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I was hoping the reasons for rejection could be reconsidered, as the reason "the sources cited to be Filmography with reliable sources is needed to demonstrate notability" appear to be invalid when taking into account the vast majority of sources, which include South China Morning Post (one of the main national papers in Asia), Variety (the main film trade magazine in the US), Screen International (one of the biggest trade papers in the UK), InvestHK (the creative division of the Hong Kong government), China Press (a major paper in Asia), Hong Kong Trade Development Council (a government division in Hong Kong), and BrightTalk (again reputable). The use of longstanding reputable national and international newspapers, and government entities should fit the definition of "reliable sources".

Also the 2nd point "Also, multiple independent reliable sources are required to support claims such as how the director, producer "developed high concept stories"" is wrong because the entry does not discuss "how" high concept stories are developed. Instead the entry states that the subject formed a company "to develop high concept stories" which is information directly stated by the subject in interviews, and the company's mission statement.

Hollerme (talk) 07:17, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Hollerme, I have left a comment on your AfC submission. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 07:58, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Reasons for your rejection for Anil Pallala

Hello TheBirdsShedTears, I'd like to thank you for reviewing the Anil Pallala . There is a deletion tag on this page, I would like to know the reason because even after giving a reliable citation link to this article and improving the article. Whatever information I have updated to this article.

Please let me know the reason for the deletion, and I kindly request you to update it. Poojasrireddy (talk) 07:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Poojasrireddy, If you believe the gentleman has sufficient coverage in multiple reliable sources, you may object AfD deletion by posting your comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anil Pallala. Meanwhile, you may improve article by adding independent reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your immediate response, can you help me with this how-to comment for deletion. I don't know how to do that.Poojasrireddy (talk) 09:31, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Poojasrireddy, Go to deletion discussion page and click pencil icon next to "Anil Pallala". Scroll down to the bottom of the page and add your detailed comment. Everyone, including page creators can participate in AfD and you can too. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:37, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Rejection of draft

Hi. I see you have rejected the Draft:Federation of Resistance Societies of the Spanish Region with the stated reason that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by this, as none of the sources listed refer to Wikipedia, there are three books cited on the matter, with inline citations for two of them. Are three separate books on the matter not enough? Because I can provide more if not. Thanks. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Grnrchst, Thank you for your clarification. I undid my edit.

Draft:Erzhan Elshibayev

Hello, you left a comment on Draft:Erzhan Elshibayev about removing close rephrasing. Could you take another look to see if edits have addressed your concern? Thanks!

Draft:Rodolfo Comerio

Hi, I saw you reviewed my draft for the page of the company Rodolfo Comerio and declined it because of WP:BOMBARDMENT. The previous reviewer told me that it was necessary to add a source at the end of each sentence and that's what I did. The reviewer told me that I could also repeat the same source multiple times. The article already exists on Italian Wikipedia with the same sources but I don't have the possibility to make a translation directly. However it is important for us to have a page also in English so I would like to understand how can I improve my article to get it approved. Thank you very much!!

Alessia Stocco, CITKILL issue in "Recent developments and awards" section needs to be fixed. Adding sources like "calenders in 2016[25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35]", since 2017[40] [41] [42] [43] [44], companies[16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] etc. is clearly a NOTBOMB. 1-2 refs. are sufficient per claim. For instance, "Example was born in 19xx"[1]". Now loading this part with too many refs like "Example was born in 19xx"[1][2][3][4][4]' is redundant. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thank you very much I understand. I have corrected the article taking into account your advice. I have eliminated some sources to make the text less redundant. I hope it now meets Wikipedia's publication criteria. Thank you again for the suggestions. Alessia

Draft:Asom Barta

Hello, TheBirdsShedTears, we have an Indian local language(Assamese) weekly newspaper, which already got registered. The newspaper registered by RNI(Registrar of newspapers for India) and UDYAM. We have an website also. I created an article on wikipedia, which declined by you. Please tell me how to get approve this article.

Kalita bani, If this is the case of your website, you need to review WP:COI and please make sure you read how to disclose conflict of interest. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the Anil Pallala Deletion tag

I have discussed in the deletion session regarding the anil pallala article but it is not helping it. But still, I'm improving it.Poojasrireddy (talk) 05:03, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

White Muslims page rejected

i will look for more sources but there are two sources showing that it is considered a seperate category in surveys and census, so it's more than just a passing mention at this point.

Concerning Draft of Amir Ghavidel

Just wanted to thank you for your read. It is a fair comment that you made. I will make it neutral and use no peacock terms. Just a question: Does "Pioneer" count as a peacock term? Cause it is common knowledge in Iran that he is a pioneer filmmaker in Iranian modern cinema. A backstory: After the Iranian revolution, cinema was considered taboo and people burned movie theaters. Ghavidel and some others made movies that stopped these violent activites by convincing the public that cinema is not the problem. They saved the industry. Thanks again for your help. Ngm 7 (talk) 14:26, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Ngm 7, you need to fix tone. These phrases/words/terms shouldn't be used; "right hand to Khachikian", "influential screenwriter", "hot topics", "mindsets", "firmly believed", "talents" etc. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:43, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Will do! Thanks. Ngm 7 (talk) 19:20, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Question

Is there any problems with the Draft:Afizzionados. ItsJustdancefan (talk) 18:10, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

ItsJustdancefan, It is written like an advertisement. You must write in an encyclopaedic manner than introducing promotional tone such as "programming is available to watch anytime, anywhere". You may read other similar articles on Wikipedia to get an idea how to write encyclopaedic articles. Please see your first article guide for information about how to start writing articles on Wikipedia. Thank you and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:17, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

TheBirdsShedTears I rewrote the section on the Draft. ItsJustdancefan (talk) 18:35, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Saul Sugarman

This is resubmitted with the changes you requested. I believe the remaining sources are published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject.

Draft:Stefan_Markovski

Hi, I believe the article has cited major Macedonian news sources, like: https://macedoniatimes.news/stafan-markovski-stories-book-english/ https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/en/objavena-knigata-hiperbog-od-stefan-markovski/ https://mia.mk/stefan-markovski-s-poetry-published-in-international-anthology/?lang=en https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/en/objavena-knigata-potenczijalite-na-zhanrot-krimi-drama-preku-sczenarioto-za-igran-film-se-vikam-sloboda-od-stefan-markovski/ https://sitel.com.mk/knizhevni-nastapi-na-stefan-markovski-vo-shpanija https://makfax.com.mk/kultura/фауст-го-трча-плебејскиот-круг-од-с/ https://opserver.mk/kultura/eretichki-pisma-na-stefan-markovski-objaven-na-angliski-jazik/ https://www.novamakedonija.com.mk/zivot/kultura/стефан-марковски-на-книжевна-резиден/ https://www.novamakedonija.com.mk/tag/стефан-марковски/ There are hundreds of news articles on Markovski's literary works, many in Cyrillic, including ones in Bulgarian: http://evropaworld.eu/nosht-na-literaturata-sofiya-2019/ https://noshtnaliteraturata.com/book/eretichni-pisma-ili-namirajki-nebesata-koito-sijajat-v-cherveno/ https://www.geomedia.bg/zabavno/item/7529-нощ-на-литературата

Plicabelles, the first 9 sources added in submission are book databases, shopping sites, and blogs. You need to go through submission and replace unreliable sources with reliable sources. It is better to remove poorly sourced content in case reliable sources are not available. I am ok with slobodenpecat.mk, sitel.com.mk, opserver.mk, and novamakedonija.com.mk. Rest of other sources you listed here are unreliable. Also, IMDb, Amazon are not reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:27, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Also, these: https://kajgana.com/roman-na-gevgelichanecot-stefan-markovski-najprodavan-na-amazon https://www.vecer.press/фауст-го-трча-плебејскиот-круг-од-с/ https://www.vecer.press/поезија-од-стефан-марковски-објавена/ https://www.vecer.press/ана-витанова-рингачева-и-стефан-марко/ https://kanal5.com.mk/promocija-na-sivo-sjaat-vselenite-od-stefan-markovski/a277045 https://kanal5.com.mk/proglaseni-najuspeshnite-poeti-na-megjunarodniot-festival-literaturni-iskri/a235118 https://republika.mk/vesti/kultura/makedonski-avtori-na-nokj-na-literaturata-vo-sofija/ https://a1on.mk/culture/knizhevni-nastapi-na-stefan-markovski-vo-slovenija/ https://a1on.mk/culture/objavena-dramata-majstori-za-ogledala-od-stefan-markovski/ https://a1on.mk/culture/stefan-markovski-so-eretichki-pisma-gostin-na-8-evropska-nokj-na-literaturata-vo-sofija/ https://a1on.mk/?s=стефан+марковски https://libertas.mk/roman-na-gevgelichanecot-stefan-markovski-na-prodavan-na-platformata-amazon/ https://libertas.mk/poetski-izbor-metrichki-karvan-so-avtori-od-gevgeli-a-i-prilep/ https://www.mkd.mk/kultura/knizhevnost/poetskiot-izbor-vetena-zemja-od-markovski-megju-visoko-rangiranite-knigi-vo https://www.mkd.mk/kultura/knizhevnost/romanot-eretichki-pisma-na-stefan-markovski-objaven-na-angliski-jazik https://www.mkd.mk/kultura/knizhevnost/stefan-markovski-so-zbirkata-raskazi-faust-go-trcha-plebejskiot-krug-pobednik-na https://www.mkd.mk/poezija/objavena-knigata-hiperbog-od-stefan-markovski https://www.mkd.mk/kultura/knizhevnost/izbor-poezija-na-mladi-makedonski-avtori-objaven-vo-slovenija https://www.mkd.mk/search?query=стефан+марковски https://www.cooltura.mk/kulturni_nastani/poezija-od-stefan-markovski-objavena-na-kineski/ https://www.cooltura.mk/kulturni_nastani/poezijata-na-stefan-markovski-vo-amerikanskoto-spisanie-harbinger-asylum/ https://www.cooltura.mk/kulturni_nastani/objavena-knigata-potentsijalite-na-zhanrot-krimi-drama-preku-stsenarioto-za-igran-film-se-vikam-sloboda-od-stefan-markovski/ https://www.cooltura.mk/kulturni_nastani/poezijata-na-stefan-markovski-del-od-megunaroden-poetski-zbornik-vo-italija/ https://www.cooltura.mk/?s=стефан+марковски&submit= https://www.radiomof.mk/in-nomine-na-poetot-stefan-markovski-kje-bide-promovirana-vo-gevgelija/ https://koha.mk/mk/2019/10/21/објавена-драмата-мајстори-за-огледа/

There are also articles on the Macedonian Ministry of Culture's website, as well as other .gov websites: http://kultura.gov.mk/stefan-markovski-vo-megunarodnata-poetska-antologija-hibiskus/ http://kultura.gov.mk/македонските-писатели-отец-пимен-сте/ http://kultura.gov.mk/formirano-makedonsko-turski-pisatelsko-drustvo-na-prijatelstvo/

http://www.gevgelija.gov.mk/vesti/104-kultura/357-песни-од-стефан-марковски-објавени-во-мексико,-перу-и-шпанија http://www.gevgelija.gov.mk/e-opstina/603-стефан-марковски-на-“европска-ноќ-на-литературата“-во-софија http://www.gevgelija.gov.mk/e-opstina/502-стефан-марковски-на-англиски-јазик

Also, mia.mk is the country's official informative agency: https://mia.mk/roman-na-gevgelichanecot-stefan-markovski-na-prodavan-na-platformata-amazon/ https://mia.mk/eretichki-pisma-na-stefan-markovski-ob-aven-na-angliski-azik/ https://mia.mk/stefan-markovski-zastapen-vo-me-unarodnata-poetska-antologi-a-hibiskus/

It should be mentioned that many websites, including mia.mk are regularly deleting their old content.

Plicabelles, you can and should archive web sites that you use atthe Internet Archive. See Help:Using the Wayback Machine for instructions. DGG ( talk ) 21:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Alessando Grego

Thank you for your revision of Alessandro Grego page. I am very sorry that it did not met the necessary criteria and I will work on it for improvement. In your opinion, if the article is shortened and only a few well sourced elements are left, would it do? Thanks, Cormarer (talk) 05:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Cormarer, atleast 3 great sources are required to demonstrate notability. Any unsourced material must be either removed or cited with reliable entries. In case, sources are not available for specific content/parts of submission, you may remove it. Since your submission is about a musician, please try to add discography with reliable entries. A good lead section, career, and discography should be added. Notability is not determined by the length of article, but it is demonstrated by reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. Many of the references are articles on newspapers or on independent web sites (e.g. reviews of concerts). The composer and his work are mentioned by one of the most influential Italian astrophysicist (Margherita Hack) and this is referenced. Are these not acceptable? Thanks --Cormarer (talk) 21:16, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Draft: Tunnelmental

Many thanks for your feedback regarding the submission of Draft:Tunnelmental. Your Comment: last fm, vimeo.com, LinkedIn, SoundCloud, Amazon, Spotify, eBay, and Apple music are user-contributed sources, therefore, they are not valid sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:05, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

I have now edited the article and removed all references to last fm, vimeo.com, LinkedIn, SoundCloud, Amazon, Spotify, eBay, and Apple music, as well as earlier facebook links. I will therefore resubmit for further review and hopeful acceptance.

Smartiperson (talk) 11:43, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Draft of Haroon Kadwani (Actor)

Hi, can i please get clarity on the rejection of my article. I included all of the authentic and reliable sources. The personality is a well known Pakistani actor and have been performing in multiple tv drama serial, telefilms, ad commercials since a very early age.

Pakidramaguru, I have already explained on your AfC submission with "multiple lead roles are required to prove notability". We need sources with in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources to verify "well known personalities". For further information please see WP:NACTOR TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Reason for the rejection

Why? Sobai Naphlang (talk) 16:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Sobai Naphlang, please read comments that i have left on Draft:Shikdamakha. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:27, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Sobai Naphlang (talk) 01:10, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Jalaledin Moayerian

Hi there,

Thanks a lot for your time to review my article about Jalaledin Moayerian, the Iranian Makeup Artist.

As per your comment, I have been advised to provide third-party sources such as newspapers, books, magazines (with editorial insights) to prove notability. For your information the following Cite provided in my article was Editorial.[4]

May I ask your further advice.

Thanks --Aria Moayerian (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Aria Moayerian, since it is a biography of living person, you should support your draft with mainstream news sources. The link you provided here appears not to be written with editorial insights. We even don't know who wrote this article. Its author(s) are not known. Moreover, this site do not appear in Google news[5]. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:46, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply. The original source is in Persian language as below and the writer/publisher is سینما پرس - خبرگزاری سینمای ایران (Iranian Cinema Press). Please kindly let me know it would be accepted if the following Persian version to be provided as the required source for my article.[6]

Aria Moayerian (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Aria Moayerian, You can provide sources published in any language. If you believe it is ready, you may resubmit it. Thanks and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your useful help and advices. I resubmitted the article as per your advice and it would be appreciated if you could review it again. Best regards, --Aria Moayerian (talk) 19:51, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Reason for rejection

Hello! Thank you for reviewing my draft. I was just a little unsure as to why it was rejected. I had read the criteria you linked me to and everything seems to check all of the boxes. The writer is a notable Emmy nominated writer who has been written about in a handful of articles and has written on major charting albums. And guidance would be appreciated. Thanks so much! Wikiickieoo (talk) 01:35, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikiickieoo, Tova Litvin's name is not mentioned anywhere on the list. [7]. Sources, that do not mention subject's name is not a valid reference. Also, "Selected discography" and "TV and Film" sections are unsourced. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 04:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Reason for rejection of draft: Jeremy Schwartz

Thanks for your feedback. Sorry for the trivial questions, this is my first article. Article has sources such as BBC News Forbes The Independent The Guardian Evening Standard

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/123-profit-rise-makes-sainsbury-s-great-again-424381.html https://www.standard.co.uk/business/jeremy-schwartz-the-body-shop-boss-taking-on-anita-roddick-s-legacy-a3135386.html https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40215151 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/13/body-shop-boss-back-to-rainforest-jeremy-schwartz-anita-roddick https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2017/02/23/why-is-loreal-trying-to-sell-off-natural-beauty-brand-the-body-shop/?sh=1544fa051523 Schwartz Jeremy (talk) 09:43, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Schwartz Jeremy, it appears interviews or a casual conversation. Also, Forbes is not a reliable source, please see WP:FORBESCON. Sources, that discuss the subject in detail and independently would be helpful to satisfy WP:GNG. Thank you and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

There are a few more articles in the Financial Times but I can't see them without a subscription https://www.ft.com/search?q=Jeremy+Schwartz. If i add this source, can the article be published? Schwartz Jeremy (talk) 10:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Rejection for Kozlov Club draft

Hello!

Rejecting my drift, you said "Nearly a c-class draft cited with one single source which is also club's own website. You will need to add multiple reliable sources such as newspapers, books, magazines etc. to satisfy notability." Clear. Still, the draft speaks of Russian subject and is, in fact, almost the translation of existing Russian wikipedia page of a subject, provided with dozens of sources. All of them in original Russian. And I reckon there are almost no sources/references in English about the subject. What should i do in this case, to repeat/copy the same sources (in Russian for English page)? Or leave the subject withour English wikipedia page just because it's so happened nobody's writing about it in certain language?

Lnogradski, please provide multiple independent reliable sources to satisfy notability. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)Lnogradski, It doesn't matter if a source is in English or Russian or Esperanto. As long as it is a reputable source, it is OK. Bkissin (talk) 15:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Lnogradski (talk) 15:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC)thanks gentlemen, I am satisfied and will do my best.

You're the G.O.A.T

Thanks for approving my article, hope you're well!

Thought Aquarium (talk) 15:48, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Matter regarding a submission you just declined 27 July 2021

Hello TheBirdShedTears, regarding the article

you just decline about a notable musician in South Africa, I think you have to go in-depth to sources that were cited to reliable sources, you insisted that the page must meet the criteria for notable albums, which the sources provided verifies, i woiuld request you to be more neutral than just crushing review submissions. Thank YOU.

Zefu zungu

Zefu zungu, I am sorry to say that all sources are vanity press. It appears a non-notable musician. Thank you and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 01:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

• OkayTheBirdsShedTears thank you for your update, i will continue to put more effort to the articles i create and submit for review and more depth from experienced editer, you can also mentor me if you see it necessary, your input will alswas be welcomd Zefu zungu (03:33 AM 28 July 202) (CAT)

BioFoodLab Draft

I have to take serious issue with your reasoning for the rejection of this article and the comment you left regarding SIGCOV. The previous editor -- and the editors before him -- stated that the subject has SIGCOV. All their requests have been made and the previous editor said the article was ready for publication after his and the other editors' editing requests were met. Your comment leads me to believe that you did not check the references carefully. The references are -- with the exception of one single article -- about the company and not the founder. The stories do discuss the founder in detail, but that is because the company is clearly using the founder's background as part of its marketing and business development strategy. However, this "founder coverage" accounts for only a small percentage of any of these references. Please see the below descriptions of the links for reference:

1. The first link clarifies basic information about the company and its number of employees. 2. The CNN video is dedicated entirely to the company but also has information about the founder's background. 3. The Intellnews story is about the company and its trajectory, but also discusses the founder's background. 4. The Moscow Times article is dedicated entirely to the company. 5. The Vedomisti article is dedicated entirely to the company. 6. The VC.RU article is about the founder's experience building the company from a startup into a large company, and the company's trials and tribulations, and its growth, along the way. VC is a leading site in Russia dedicated to successful startups. 7. A report ranking the company. 8. The Kommersant story is a feature story about the company's trajectory from startup to successful corporation. 9. Yes, this piece is dedicated to the founder. 10. This entire TV show is dedicated to the company. 11. Russian State website mentioning the company. AND THESE ARE NEW: 12. A news story dedicated to the company. 13. A securities filing dedicated to the company. 14. A news story dedicated to the company.

I have added the last three articles as well about the company subsequent to your rejection.

As I mentioned to the previous editor, I am and have been a business and finance news editor for most of my adult life. I am able to differentiate between "company" and "founder" coverage. Additionally, as I noted previously, the company is the leader in Russia and the region producing healthy foods and snacks, plant-based products and now plant-based meat. It is one of the best-known brands in the country and, hence, is deserving of a Wikipedia page.

JohannesburgBlues (talk) 08:15, 28 July 2021 (UTC)JohannesburgBlues

JohannesburgBlues, If you believe I made a mistake and declined your AfC submission without looking into sources, you may express your concern at WP:AFCHD than making false claims towards SIGCOV for this revision. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

I am not making false claims. If I am making false claims, so are the previous editors. I think you did not read it at all. Thanks for your help. JohannesburgBlues (talk) 11:59, 28 July 2021 (UTC)JohannesburgBlues

JohannesburgBlues, Can you please link 3 sources here so that I can better understand what I missed? Pick 3 best reference as presented in this revision TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:06, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Sure.

Here is the TV show about the company. I am sending two links, because the first might not open in your location:

1 https://boss.friday.ru/videos/vipuski/boss4-6?order=direct AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zrii83JuBQ

2 CNN Coverage https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10155128115313067

3 Moscow Times Feature https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/12/russian-health-food-startup-soars-during-pandemic-a72008

4 Intellinews https://www.intellinews.com/former-model-s-biofood-bars-are-the-new-face-of-russia-s-health-food-industry-126803

The others as well.

I understand the confusion. Everyone talks about her background in the beginning of the stories (and many times in the headlines) because the journalists obviously think it is intriguing, but the coverage is actually about the company's success story.

JohannesburgBlues (talk) 12:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)JohannesburgBlues

JohannesburgBlues, Event or program between its members[8]

This video shows and talks about head of the company[9]

This is an interview alongside company introduction[10]

This one looks OK[11]

This coverage is focused on model[12]. Please read WP:IS. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

I see where you are coming from with the Intellinews piece. I just reread it.

Regarding the TV show, it is actually about the company, and what it takes to run the company. I speak Russian. Here is the official description of the episode at that link from Russian (Google Translation). In the episode, a novice entrepreneur takes the helm of BioFoodLab, and the CEO of BioFoodLab takes the helm of a similar company, which is just a startup.

===In the new episode of the show "Now I'm the Boss!" we will swap the leaders of companies specializing in healthy nutrition for 3 days. Elena Shifrina is the founder of BITE, a company that was a small startup 8 years ago, and now its turnover reaches 3 billion rubles a year. BITE is rightfully considered one of the world leaders in the production of healthy bars. In Bronnitsy near Moscow, Elena will head a small company "Snack No. 1" for 3 days and introduce world standards of work there: -will carry out a large-scale rebranding; - will make office renovation; - will agree with the capital retailer about the distribution of the company's products.

Her place at this time will be taken by Konstantin Romankov, a novice entrepreneur who will try to pump an already successful company. What will come of this? Find out in the new episode of the show "Now I'm the Boss!"===

The CNN link on Facebook does have an interview, but this CNN program is not about founders, it is about successful companies that take their products international. That is the specific remit of the program.

I agree on the Moscow Times one.

In any case, I appreciate you having a look at all this. Thanks!

JohannesburgBlues (talk) 12:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)JohannesburgBlues

JohannesburgBlues, I don't think they are independent sources except this. You will need to provide only 3 better sources like TheMoscowTimes. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:56, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

They are 100 percent independent. I don't think it is possible to pay off CNN :) or a TV channel such as the one listed. In any case, I did add a few more links after your review, and will try to add some more.

JohannesburgBlues (talk) 14:56, 28 July 2021 (UTC)JohannesburgBlues

JohannesburgBlues, If you believe it is ready, you may resubmit it. Also, your "100%" claim seems not valid. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:02, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Well, of course, no one can ever know. I just find it hard to believe that you can pay for coverage on CNN. :) JohannesburgBlues (talk) 15:11, 28 July 2021 (UTC)JohannesburgBlues

JohannesburgBlues, We should read WP:NCORP than presenting your opinions regarding a draft which is possibly an WP:UPE as well as WP:COI. Read the comments of reviewers as well and address them accordingly. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi. There is no conflict of interest or paid editing. I have addressed this question with a previous editor. I understand that there have been many issues in the past with companies having pages that are not deserving of them. This is not the case here and any solid business or finance editor with experience in the segment, or the region, can attest to that fact. We obviously don't agree on certain points here, but I appreciate your time. Thanks. JohannesburgBlues (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)JohannesburgBlues

Draft:The 8-Bit Guy

Can you take another look at the history section? I added the background because there wasn't anything to explain how he came about. The Vice article does talk about his other YouTuber ventures, so I cut out the names of those channels. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

AngusWOOF, I think now it looks better with encyclopaedic tone. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Dear TheBirdsShedTears thank you for reviewing the article S. V. C. Aiya. This was my first article and I am feeling quite encouraged to continue contributing with renewed vigor to the wiki knowledgebase. I noticed your profile. it is just so amazing! I hope to become like you some day! Peace.

Oria 6, Thank you for your kind response. Wikipedia knowledge-base needs expansion with notable entries, and I hope you will continue to edit constructively. Cheers and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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I have addressed the tag "When?" Placed on Draft:Danish Manzoor . Please approve the draft now. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 05:37, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

TheChunky, please remove possible close rephrasing [13]. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:56, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Sure but this is common text, He has been awarded with ‘Best Male Athlete’ of the tournament in the Tokey Memorial Open Taekwondo Championship (Kyorugi and Poomsae). These names of award and event can't be changed. Any suggestions please. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)}

Check now. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)}

The last part was "common text" but not "he has been award......" TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:10, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 21:31:49, 28 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by NataliaFrancesca

• NataliaFrancesca (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Talia Dean (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

HI TBST , i am really struggling to write this page, it has been rejected 10 times. Can you help at all ? I really like your page btw, you sound mysterious . I am a huge fan of Talia Dean and i want to create a wiki for her. I have tried and tried but it is unsuccessful

NataliaFrancesca (talk) 21:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

NataliaFrancesca, Your topic fails to satisfy WP:NSINGER, therefore, you need to provide 3 reliable sources with in-depth coverage about Talia Dean to satisfy WP:GNG. Thank you and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 03:39, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

HI Again TBST , I do not understand why my sources are unreliable ? I checked and NME and BBC are considered reliable sources. She is a famous lady in the UK it is very confusing, please assist

NataliaFrancesca, BBC is definitely a reliable source. But unfortunately, it talks about her health issues and very little about her career. TellyMix source is talking about her television music competition. Music competitions contribute very little to notability. NME source is saying "Talia Dean is lead singer of King’s Daughters" (I think a musical group).

PinkNews seems talking about her participation in X Factor competition show. A musician (see WP:MUSICBIO) is presumed notable "if they meet at least one of the following criteria":

1. Has received multiple independent coverage in reliable sources. (independent sources generally discuss the subject in detail without influence of other topics. See WP:IS).

2. Has won/nominated notable award(s).

3. Has made significant contribution to music.

Please read WP:MUSICBIO for detailed information.

However, due to lack of resources in some countries like (Burundi, Somalia, Central Africa, Niger etc.), media is not much active and as a result, notable topics receive very less media attention. Therefore, we accept or decline draft by determining the position of the topic. (please note this is not a Wikipedia guideline, but sometimes, we accept notable articles such as politicians, scientists etc. using our own knowledge. I have not accepted any such article till date). As you know, the UK is a developed country, and the media is extensively writing about different topics. A UK based famous personalities are likely to receives widespread media attention.

You will need to provide only WP:THREE sources with significant coverage in reliable sources such as newspapers, books, magazines etc. Thank you and happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you TBST, would they consider "My London" or "Surrey Live" as a reliable news source. It tells me Dailey express is a no ??

for example ?? https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/oxshott-musician-talia-dean-releases-19832396

Talia Dean has been number 1 in the charts twice this year. sorry to disturb you again

NataliaFrancesca, I seems My London as well as Surrey Live are reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 00:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Mara Karlin

Hello - I just wanted to ask about your recent denial of my new page on Mara Karlin. You suggested that I highlight her role in international affairs at the Pentagon. I am a little confused because I have that in the top section and explain how she is currently the acting assistant secretary of defense for international affairs. Joe Biden has nominated her for a new position in the Pentagon of equal stature.

I am confused why she is not considered notable. Every other nominated assistant secretary of defense has a wiki page. In fact, if you look at this [page], she's the only one listed without one. I am new to Wikipedia and tried to create a page for her there because she seemed like she would merit one based on the fact that everyone else who received a similar nomination has one. If there's something I'm missing, I would definitely appreciate your feedback.

Thanks! -- @Wghgljsj

Wghgljsj, You have not mentioned that she advises the Secretary of Defense on defense policies relating to the more than 145 countries in the Middle East etc. Also, you have not mentioned anything about her previous office or roles. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 03:09, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback! Still getting the hang of this. Just updated. --Wghgljsj (talk) 03:19, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Wghgljsj, Please don't copy paste. You need to write this in your own words. Thanks TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 03:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Removal of the term "trustworthy"

Thanks for your guidance! I have removed the term "trustworthy" which appears to be promotional https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dinesh_S._Katre Sahalekhak (talk) 06:41, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Removal of excessive citations

Thanks for your guidance! I have removed the excessive citations in the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dinesh_S._Katre Sahalekhak (talk) 06:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)