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Composer links

Hi. Thanks for adding to WP, but please don't link the composer names at Classic 100 Symphony (ABC). The ad-hoc links look untidy (we're not going to link all of them), and they don't sort well. Links to the composers are easily made by going to the work that is linked on each page. Thanks.  HWV258  05:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I know that one wouldn't link to all occurences of a composer, but the web page navigation I'm used to, a right-click and open a link in a new tab while one keeps reading the original article is a natural flow for me, and it is a convenience to be able to link directly to the composer rather than have to go through intermediate links. Splouge (talk) 05:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

But you are not considering the use by the average reader. It is very likely that they will want to find out something about an individual work (and extremely unlikely that they will want to find out something concerning an individual composer). People who have found their way to this page, are likely to be familiar with the individual composers, and they can right-click to get to the composer's page in just the way you describe (via the work's page). This is a page of works (not composers). You are merely approaching this issue theoretically, and we are desperately trying to get away from over-linking on WP. You have also not addressed the issue that linking the first occurrence of a composer is meaningless when the table gets sorted away from the default (and sorting is a feature of this page). Could you please stop linking until we have had time to discuss this (and for others to comment)? Thanks.  HWV258  05:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

ok, I'll back out the changes Splouge (talk) 05:52, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mean for you to do that. Perhaps your idea is good and other people will also like them. Perhaps leave them for a while and see what other people think?  HWV258  05:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Should something be put in the discussion page for the Classic 100 page about the pros and cons of the kind of linking that I was doing, or any alternative means of linking? Splouge (talk) 06:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure.  HWV258  06:22, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Classic 100 Symphony (ABC)

Thanks for your diligent work in updating the Classic 100 Symphony (ABC) article. I'm sure that keeping it updated in real-time during the countdown must have been well-received by the many listeners/viewers. Cheers.  HWV258  12:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

No worries, it's going to be an early night tonight. Splouge (talk) 12:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Sean O'Boyle (composer)

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It was deleted as a copyvio - text from Sean O'Boyle's site added by User:Seanoboyle. I've restored it and reverted to the last version before this happened. I'd advise adding a bit more to it - it's very brief and doesn't show any importance. And there's no refs.... One of the eager beavers might spot it. My fault for not looking closely at the history. Peridon (talk) 20:35, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

His wife stays deleted - no earlier version. That's probably what threw me - I deleted her first and assumed they'd been created together. Peridon (talk) 20:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kiyoshi Yoshida

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Speedy deletion nomination of Masaki Kurihara

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Speedy deletion nomination of Kousuke Yamashita

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Speedy deletion nomination of Sean O'Boyle (composer)

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A tag has been placed on Sean O'Boyle (composer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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If an article is flagged for speedy deletion, please give the previous authors time to respond and pointers to something that is specific to the kind of article (in this case composers or musicians) rather than creative people in general. This composer has had work commercially released and critically acclaimed. Splouge (talk) 19:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Makoto Yoshimori (composer)

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A tag has been placed on Makoto Yoshimori (composer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Keita Haga

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A tag has been placed on Keita Haga requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject of the article is important or significant: that is, why an article about it should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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See the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Rorshacma (talk) 17:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Takefumi Haketa (composer)

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See the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Rorshacma (talk) 17:49, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kunihiko Ryo

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See the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Rorshacma (talk) 17:53, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Yukari Hashimoto

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See the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Rorshacma (talk) 17:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

RE Speedy Deletions Kunihiko Ryo and Yukari Hashimoto

The main problem with the articles as they were is that they did not establish notability. Simply stating that they were composers without any reference to what notable things they have done is not enough to establish why there should be an article about them. In addition, references supporting notability of a subject should be properly cited in the article, and not just added as external links. Here are some useful links explaining Wikipedia's policies on notability and biographies.Rorshacma (talk) 19:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

What I am looking at would be something specific for living composers who are already mentioned in several existing articles in Wikipedia.

Splouge (talk) 19:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

If they are already mentioned in other articles in reference to work they have been involved with, you should definitely specifically state what work they have done in the composer's article, and provide proper links to the articles on which works they have been involved in. For example, if the article for Series X states that Composer Y was involved in its production, the article for Composer Y should state that they worked on Series X, with links back to that article. You'll note that the articles you created that already did this were in fact, not deleted. You should also make sure that any article that mentions the composer links back to the composer's article, to prevent the newly created article from being Orphaned. Rorshacma (talk) 19:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm doing this now, but it does force a particular kind of workflow. I was wanting to create several missing composer pages then fill in the details over coming days, and what I found was that speedy deletion could mean less than an hour after being marked for speedy deletion and less than 24 hours after initial page creation. Splouge (talk) 19:49, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, yes. When you want to create a new article, you should definitely at least fill in enough details to establish notability before leaving it to come back to and expand later. While its discouraged to mark a page for deletion immediately after it is created, if it is left unattended for several hours, it will usually be marked if it has not established notability yet. And, as you noted, once it is marked, it can be deleted very quickly depending on how fast an admin gets to it. Sorry for the trouble you experienced with this, and good luck with your article creation. Rorshacma (talk) 20:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

So what's the procedure for restoring these two deleted articles (assuming I have time right then to add enough notability criteria)? It looks like I'll be several hours just providing back-links to the works by composers whose stub articles that I've created and haven't yet been deleted... Splouge (talk) 20:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

There is a procedure for requesting the undeletion of pages here: Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. However, since the articles of yours that were deleted were in such incomplete form at the time of their deletion, it is unlikely the admins will restore them through that. Your best bet is to just recreate the articles from scratch, same as when you created them the first time. As long as you establish notability for each one before moving on, there should not be any problems with them remaining as valid articles, despite having been tagged for Speedy Deletion previously. Rorshacma (talk) 20:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Kiyoshi Yoshida for deletion

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Kiyoshi Yoshida and other composers

I read your remarks on Talk:Kiyoshi Yoshida on how you are creating stubs and then adding references. Those stubs are sure to attract unwanted attention, as you already know by all the AfD notices above. You would do better to create the stubs as draft articles on your talk page, then add references to them, and only move them to mainspace when you have a viable article with references. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:37, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. As happened with a couple of the composers, there were details that I did not know and was glad to have filled in by others, so it's a case of maybe checking the rest of Wikipedia for the references to the composer, cleaning those up (e.g. an article on an anime series may omit who composed the music entirely) and then being ready to add an article with references in one hit. Splouge (talk) 05:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, what you are describing is just good Wikipedia editor practice. Do you know how to create a talk page article? If so, create your next article right here, and move it to mainspace only when it is in good shape. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

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Your contributions would be welcomed at http://manga.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page If anything gets deleted on Wikipedia, don't worry, it can easily be transferred over there. Dream Focus 13:01, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, what I'm trying to fill in are details like who composed and performed music used in anime, tying it all together so one can for example pick an anime series that had music you liked, then follow on to related music by the same composers and performers. One particular case would be to identify all composers of music performed in [Animelo Summer Live]. Splouge (talk) 13:19, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

• I imported the full histories of these articles.

   Kiyoshi Yoshida 19 revisions
   Masaki Kurihara 12 revisions
   Kousuke Yamashita 33 revisions
   Makoto Yoshimori (composer) 16 revisions
   Keita Haga 8 revisions
   Junpei Fujita 25 revisions
   Hijiri Anze 15 revisions
   Ken muramatsu 8 revisions
   Takeshi Senoo 11 revisions

If any had something deleted from them, you can just check the history and restore the version you like. Dream Focus 19:23, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Ken Muramatsu for deletion

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Proposed deletion of Masaki Kurihara

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Proposed deletion of Takefumi Haketa

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Proposed deletion of Hijiri Anze

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Does not meet WP:GNG. Sources used are database entries which do not demonstrate notability. Article has been mostly unchanged since it was created in 2011, and I found no good sources per WP:BEFORE.

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Nomination of Masaki Kurihara for deletion

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