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Hello, @Spiderone I Have disclosed my employer on my user page and added it on the talk page of District FM and Sandra Idubor can the speed deletion tags be removed while I work to improve those article in the future? Thank you for all your help.Innocentuzoma (talk) 14:34, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Innocentuzoma - the discussion will last for a week, which is more than enough time to find sources. I am still not convinced that either of them are notable so have no intention of withdrawing the deletion request. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Spiderone - How many days i got left?Innocentuzoma (talk) 14:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Innocentuzoma 5 days Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
what happens then? 😕 Innocentuzoma (talk) 15:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Innocentuzoma an admin will decide, based on the strength of the arguments presented, whether the topic is sufficient to remain or whether it should be deleted Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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An article i wrote has been approved but it's still in my sandbox after i've moved it. How do i make it appear in the digital space?
- You article has been moved to mainspace: The Block Party Series (Mainland Block Party). Giraffer (talk·contribs) 09:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Concerning deletion of page Affliction Networks
Hi, it seems you were right about the page lacking valid references.. The page has been updated to contain independent valid resources.. I urge you to please re-read the article and re-consider your vote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoggingOnto (talk • contribs) 16:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'll have a look and respond on the deletion discussion page. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Query
Hi mate, do you know if it's allowed for an AfD nominator to close his own discussion, as has happened with a couple of cricket articles recently. I posted about one on the nominators talk page but have just seen that he's done a few more. I think the outcomes are alright, but it just seems a bit of a conflict of interests. Regards. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 20:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Rugbyfan22 - it's generally inappropriate as it goes against WP:NACD; Do not close discussions in which you have offered an opinion, or for a page in which you have a vested interest (i.e. a page that you have edited heavily). Exception: closing your own withdrawn nomination as a speedy keep, when all other viewpoints were for keep as well. So I think it was correct to query it. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- His rationale for closing them was that there were alternatives to deletion, but on the couple I've looked at it was sort of 50/50 for delete/redirect. I've questioned again and will see what he replies, but when you post hundreds of cricket related discussions on players with a few games but debatable coverage, and then close them yourself it seems like a massive conflict of interests. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 21:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Rugbyfan22 - I agree it shouldn't be done. I wouldn't even close my own AfD if there were 12 delete votes and nothing else. If I have a COI, I can't get involved in that. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- I decided to take it to the Administrators notice board after seeing him did a few more, with some with time to go on their discussions and it looks to have been sorted. Thanks for your advice though. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Rugbyfan22 - I agree it shouldn't be done. I wouldn't even close my own AfD if there were 12 delete votes and nothing else. If I have a COI, I can't get involved in that. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- His rationale for closing them was that there were alternatives to deletion, but on the couple I've looked at it was sort of 50/50 for delete/redirect. I've questioned again and will see what he replies, but when you post hundreds of cricket related discussions on players with a few games but debatable coverage, and then close them yourself it seems like a massive conflict of interests. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 21:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Dumbarton F.C. Seasons 1999-2000 and 2006-07
I have removed the deletion notices from the above mentioned pages. You indicate that the notice to delete is due to not being notable. However if being one of the founding members of the Scottish Football Association, competing in the inaugural Scottish Cup and winning the first two Scottish Leagues is not notable enough to contniue with Dumbarton F.C.'s history then I doubt if any page on football clubs will pass that muster.(Talk to Spider)]] 17:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Aitkegs Hi, have you got anything to show that the seasons required pass WP:GNG on their own merits? The fact that they are founding members of the Scottish FA has no merit to individual season notability. Would you be able to prove that such coverage exists? Seasons at semi-pro level are not inherently notable. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC) Season 1999-2000 was the final season to be played at Dumbarton's home ground Boghead - noteable for the fact that at the time it was the longest serving home ground for any football club in the UK - 126 years. No particular issues in 2006-07 but while I understand the 'rules' it does seem a bit like missing out an article on a battle during a war just because noone was killed. History should where possible be complete.(Talk to Spider)]] 09:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Aitkegs I agree that that's a good reason for 1999-00 to deserve an article. I'll have a look another time as there are currently quite a few Scottish seasons up for deletion already. I am aware that Dumbarton have a strong history and were once one of the more dominant Scottish teams but this doesn't automatically make every season notable by default. There were pushes in the last two years or so to only have such articles if WP:GNG is clearly met or if the season is in a top professional league where such coverage is almost guaranteed. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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Macro Recordings deletion review
Hi Spiderone, thanks for joining the discussion at Macro Rec deletion review. I wonder how you see "clear consensus" when between those who actually advance any arguments, there are 3 for delete / redirect and 2 for keep? If you think that's consensus, hmmm, but "clear"? Did you notice that there've been several press features added as sources, and 2 of the delete votes will not be arsed to even look at them, while one claims those sources are based on "interviews" (while there are several which are not...). I'm beginning to get the impression that there is a bias towards the opinions of frequent editors. Just as the fact that some users limit the range of topics they will engage in is treated as suspect. The way such processes go I see no way whatsoever to salvage an article or get a balanced discussion instead of having 2-3 people decide something notable must go. Would you care to reconsider your vote? Thanks!
- I disagree with a 'no consensus' close. One of the keep votes was from a blatant WP:SOCK so should be ignored entirely. None of the keep arguments adequately addressed the concerns surrounding WP:NCORP; in particularly WP:CORPDEPTH. The admin closure was based on consensus from the participants and both 'delete' or 'redirect' would have been acceptable. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the work you do
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- TimothyBlue thanks! Funnily enough, the abuse seems to make me even more determined to fight vandalism and to keep Wikipedia as spam-free as possible. Even though we're a small fraction of the Wikipedia community, the work we do is important so let's keep at it. :) Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yup !!!! Celestina007 (talk) 22:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- TimothyBlue thanks! Funnily enough, the abuse seems to make me even more determined to fight vandalism and to keep Wikipedia as spam-free as possible. Even though we're a small fraction of the Wikipedia community, the work we do is important so let's keep at it. :) Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Contesting deletion suggestion
Hello Spiderone, whilst I appreciate your obvious dedication to removing irrelevant or spam articles on Wikipedia, I must register my huge disappointment in the fact that you have flagged my article Kelvedon Hatch F.C. for deletion. I have put a lot of work into completing this article, fully referenced it and find it to be relevant as it is a well known football club within Essex. Upon the accusation of copyright by a user editing the page (I got information from the official club site) I did not argue and instead have typed out a completely new history section, making sure to not use any sentences so as to not be accused of copyright claims again. Not once have I ever been flagged for copyright, let alone flagged for deletion, and I am hugely disappointed and upset that I have been so by you. Can you please explain to me why you have done this, and perhaps remove the claim as I am a fellow Wikipedian just like you and have just spent a considerable amount of my day writing up that article for everyone that is interested to enjoy. I look forward to your response Luke780 (talk) 22:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Luke780 Hi there, the reason that I have put it up for deletion discussion (this is a community discussion and I have no final say in whether the article actually gets deleted or not) is because I do not believe that it meets WP:FOOTYN or WP:GNG. The former requires the club to have played in a national cup (e.g. FA Cup or FA Vase) or step 6 (level 10) or above, which is not the case with this club. The latter, GNG, requires the club to have been the subject of significant coverage from reliable sources independent of the subject. As per my comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelvedon Hatch F.C., I don't believe that this is the case with this club. Please note that the club's own website, Essex FA and EOFL are all not independent and do not count towards notability. It would also exclude any social media coverage for the club. If you can prove that this club has gained significant attention from reliable, independent sources, please share them in the deletion discussion. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Season articles
Do you think 1958–59 Liverpool F.C. season passes GNG? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- The Rambling Man - in its current form, it's not established. I'd be willing to bet that, given how well Liverpool's history is covered in general, there would be enough offline sources with which the article could be brought to an acceptable level. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- But only routine NOTNEWS coverage. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:52, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I would see no harm in a redirect to History of Liverpool F.C. (1892–1959) but I'm sure that there are some that would disagree because of WP:NSEASONS Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, thanks for that, exactly what I hoped you'd say. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:17, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I would see no harm in a redirect to History of Liverpool F.C. (1892–1959) but I'm sure that there are some that would disagree because of WP:NSEASONS Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- But only routine NOTNEWS coverage. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:52, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Susanne Koelbl
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Would you be so kind to teach me how to build an infobox Template Innocentuzoma (talk) 04:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Sorry, I didn't know how to write you a message. The article isn't about me but about my brother (we have a similar first name) Rakanqat (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2021 (UTC) |
- Please read WP:COI, Rakanqat - you are strongly discouraged from writing about relatives as that is a conflict of interest. If your brother is notable, somebody else will write about him eventually. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:11, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Asking for opinion
Hi, you are an experienced AfDler - I took a controversy article to AfD and I have overseen that it is a recreation of a previously merged article (with a more than clear consensus, Talk:Mya_Thwe_Thwe_Khaing, CSD G4 case IMHO). What is your opinion, Delete or Keep? Articles for deletion/Mya Thwe Thwe Khine CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi CommanderWaterford, G4 wouldn't apply here as the original article was merged and not deleted, so your AfD is treated as its first deletion discussion. In terms of whether it should be deleted or kept, I'm not very knowledgeable on notability on topics of this type but I would say that there's way too much content and reliable sourcing to just outright delete. The two valid options are keep and merge, in my view. The article has grown quite large so merge may also be no longer appropriate if the target is already a very large article. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:26, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Spiderone, thanks for your explanation - so we discuss one week wether to merge a subject or not, we merge it in a very unpleasant kind of procedure and afterwards we discuss once again if an article of the exactly same topic needs to be deleted or not ?! CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:30, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- CommanderWaterford I'd be interested to see if the users that participated in the previous merge discussion would still support a merge this month. It is strange that the consensus has so significantly changed in such a short space of time. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Spiderone, well IMO those kind of articles are all WP:ACTIVIST however bad these fates are but indeed that's an interesting question. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- CommanderWaterford you may want to consider notifying the participants in the previous discussion of this new discussion. As long as you do it in a way that doesn't breach WP:CANVAS, of course. In my view, it would be best to notify people that were against the merge as well as those that supported it to ensure balance. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Spiderone, well IMO those kind of articles are all WP:ACTIVIST however bad these fates are but indeed that's an interesting question. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- CommanderWaterford I'd be interested to see if the users that participated in the previous merge discussion would still support a merge this month. It is strange that the consensus has so significantly changed in such a short space of time. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Spiderone, thanks for your explanation - so we discuss one week wether to merge a subject or not, we merge it in a very unpleasant kind of procedure and afterwards we discuss once again if an article of the exactly same topic needs to be deleted or not ?! CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:30, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for opening the AFD
Really man! Thanks! The disruption was getting real messy. Celestina007 (talk) 23:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007 - no problem. Just got sick of the socking, really. Hopefully, if speedy fails, it will still get a WP:SNOW early close. I'm surprised Drunknmunky is still trading, to be honest. I haven't seen anyone wearing their clothes since about 2009... Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 23:27, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- As you pointed out in your rationale, I’m 100% certain the socking has an underlying COI/UPE attached to it, but a part of me believed for a second there that they intentionally socked repeatedly so I’d snap on them real hard. Very correct, I haven’t seen anyone wear that brand since like forever. Celestina007 (talk) 23:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Shiyas Kareem
Hi, I am new to Wikipedia. The reason for deletion of the article Shiyas Kareem is still unclear to me. He is a notable person in Kerala. And he had notable roles in some of the movies.How you verify the person had notable role in those movies? Pls help I am trying to improve my article quality and also trying to avoid deletion in future. -- Riyas Tp (talk) 09:38, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I would recommend following the clear guidance at WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG as a first port of call. I would also recommend creating the page as Draft:Shiyas Kareem instead and following WP:AfC so that experienced editors in this field can offer their opinions on how to make sure the article meets our criteria. I hope this helps. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:55, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for Renate-Ly
i send you the thanks from Renate-Ly for her profile. If you want to make also for Karina Pelikanova, please, we will be very happy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugok47 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hugok47 - hi, you're welcome. I don't think Pelikánová is notable enough for an article yet. She has only played at under-17 level so does not meet WP:NFOOTBALL. A search for sources doesn't come back with enough coverage for WP:GNG at this moment in time. If you can find a reliable source for a senior debut for Slovakia, I will happily create an article but I think it's probably too soon for her. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
For Pelikan, we have offers from huge clubs in England, Germany, France and Spain. As she is not 18, nobody wanted to take the risk to bring her. We made 1st transfer in Heereveen, Netherlands last summer. Soon she will be more notable. Also we will bring Alla Herasymchuk, ukrainian goalkeeper,this summer in France. She has been champion in Ukraine of football in 2015 in ukrainian women league, won the cup of ukraine last year and this year she plays in FC HAYASA the champion of Armenia. She will be probably champion of Armenia - if you are interested. thanks for all — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugok47 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Relisting of AfD's
Hi mate, is there a general consensus for the amount of time between relisting an AfD (that had previously had the consensus of keep) for a second nomination? Can't find it anywhere in the guidelines so wondering if there's an unwritten rule or opinion on it. Thanks mate. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 11:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Rugbyfan22 - hey mate, I think it depends largely on circumstances. For example, sending an article to AfD when there was unanimous consensus to keep a month ago would be frowned upon but a no consensus close from 6 months ago (due to minimal participation) would be unlikely to cause issue. Which article did you have in mind? Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:52, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- It was a keep vote 11 days ago, I voted procedural keep because of that and just wanted to check that was an ok view to have. Thanks. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 12:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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Mutahir Showkat deserve a Wikipedia page
Hello Sir I hope you are having a good day, I’m a local Kashmiri I’m not a contributor nor a creator on Wikipedia, I use Wikipedia to gain information I usually search about the known person’s of the Kashmir valley as we people of kashmir have struggled a lot, we have lost a lot so it feels happiness when we see someone from our valley is doing good. Mutahir Showkat is one the known persons of the valley he has contributed a lot to our valley no matter weather media gave him coverage or not but he has done always good works for the people of Kashmir, today I went through Wikipedia and saw someone has created his Wikipedia for a movement I felt happy, during evening I checked it back again and I saw there was a speedy deletion tag on the article I felt so bad, I don’t know about the rules and regulations of Wikipedia as I have never contributed on Wikipedia before, I googled first that how I can do this all then I start contributing regarding Mutahir Showkat
- Sir I don’t know anything about editing and donating at Wikipedia but only I request you please don’t delete the article of Mutahir Showkat he’s notable person and he has done lot of notable works please sir it’s request from Youth of valley get Mutahir Showkat a Wikipedia article
Regards , Mutahir Showkat supporter Faizan Hameed Lone (talk) 18:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)