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Ways to improve TV Palma Plus[edit]

Hello, Savasampion,

Thank you for creating TV Palma Plus.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

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May 2020[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm Jingiby. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Ibrahim Rugova seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 17:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Vanjagenije (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please, stop making disruptive edits. Instead, discuss the issues at talk pages and seek WP:consensus with other editors. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

December 2020[edit]

A page you created has been deleted as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. signed, Rosguill talk 17:44, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on File:Flag of EU.svg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a file namespace redirect shadowing a page on Commons, and has no incoming file links.

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Since File:Flag of Europe.svg is located on Wikimedia Commons instead of locally, I have copied your redirect at File:Flag of EU.svg over there and requested deletion of the local version. This is purely for technical reasons, and your new redirect will still function properly on this site once the local version is deleted. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know here or on my user talk page. Thanks for your contributions! Nathan2055talk - contribs 17:26, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on File:AVNOJ borders.svg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a file namespace redirect shadowing a page on Commons, and has no incoming file links.

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Since File:SocialistYugoslavia en.svg is located on Wikimedia Commons instead of locally, I have copied your redirect at File:AVNOJ borders.svg over there and requested deletion of the local version. This is purely for technical reasons, and your new redirect will still function properly on this site once the local version is deleted. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know here or on my user talk page. Thanks for your contributions! Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not mark major edits as minor[edit]

Information icon Hi Savasampion! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. —J. M. (talk) 22:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 2021[edit]

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Albanians. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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File copyright problem with File:Kosovo Flag Proposal.svg[edit]

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Competence and disruptive editing[edit]

Given your recent disruptive editing (intentional or unintentional), I will remind you WP:COMPETENCE is required to succeed on this project. As I see you've been editing for more than 3 years, it is unacceptable that you still don't seem to grasp even the most basic tenets of wiki policy and rules, such as WP:PRIMARY and WP:COMMONNAME, and seem confused as to what they even mean. Instead of avowals that you will try to learn the ropes, all I've gotten from you is WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT and edit-warring.

I will remind you that the Arbitration Committee has authorized administrators to block or ban users who exhibit a pattern of disruptive editing in the Balkan topic area. I won't hesitate to report you if you continue adding outright hoaxes such as the "Yugoslav Revolution" to templates, [1] "Kosovo didn't declare independence from Serbia", [2] and so on. I've been more than patient with you for over a year. This has to stop. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to be kind enough to talk to you. A lot has changed in recent years, a human learns while he is alive. I admit that I made mistakes, but it is absurd to say that Rugova died in Serbia and Montenegro (today Kosovo), when it was a part as much as it is a part of Serbia today (in fact, it does not manage that territory). A year ago, I did not remember to say that it is under international administration, so you thought that the place of death was the country. Also, I was wrong to say that Kosovo is the author of the declaration of independence, as the identity of the author is still in dispute. Some claim (most ICJ judges) that they did not represent the government in that territory, but that they declared independence out of the institutions, which should mean that everyone can individually and non-institutionally declare whatever they want. The title Yugoslav Revolution is in line with WP:COMMONNAME. The headline itself says that it refers to Slobodan Milosevic's Overthrow and that you have the right to go to other articles about the revolution in that country. We can agree on Presevo War, I offer you: - Yes, as you say, the Končulj Agreement should be in quotation marks -or to indicate that it is a document with the original title of the Statement on Demilitarization of May 2001. -or to change to the Statement on Demilitarization. I hope I was clear. Thanks.--Savasampion (talk) 16:05, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

November 2021[edit]

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February 2022[edit]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to introduce jokes into articles, as you did at Ana Brnabić ‎, you may be blocked from editing. Wikipedia is a serious encyclopedia, and contributions of this type are considered vandalism. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 21:22, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have seriously heard her called that and I do not see anything controversial. For example, Haji Mustafa Pasha was called the Serbian Mother ...--Savasampion (talk) 18:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Немој смарати и стављати своју ретардирану верзију грба Кнежевине Србије који си склопио користећи грб из 2004. године. ПОстоји оригинални грб који сам ја радио који упорно мењаш. Немој то да радиш, досадан си и твоја верзија је далеко инфериорнија. --WikiNameBaks (talk) 22:32, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Буди мало културнији. Нема оригинала, нема стандарда у 19 веку. Сви користе своју верзију, а ја сам направио пресек користећи фотографије цртежа, печата, застава, докумената... Онај грб на штиту није из 2004, него је фрагмент цртежа Ернста Крала из 1882. године. Препоручујем ти да радиш грбове у СВГ формату. Мања је величина датотеке, али је квалитетан. --Savasampion (talk) 11:51, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Principality of Serbia. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Excuse me, what is the time frame for the change?--Savasampion (talk) 19:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Čale" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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April 2022[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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Edit revert[edit]

Your edit at Republika Srpska (1992-1995) has been reverted, due to this unexplained edit (possibly vandalism) being disruptive and unsourced. Suasufzeb (talk) 16:51, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The same has been done to your edit at Republic of Serbian Krajina, for the same reasons. Suasufzeb (talk) 16:59, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

minor edits[edit]

I noticed that a number of your edits were marked as minor. Note however that this deviates from Help:Minor edit. Please apply more rigor when using the minor edit checkbox in the future. Similarly, please use the Help:Edit summary to explain edits, too. TIA. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:54, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Native Serbs in Greece[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Omčo[edit]

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December 2022[edit]

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Emblem of Kosovo and Flag of Kosovo. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Palanka[edit]

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Palanka. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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"Pera the Gate" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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WP:BLP violations[edit]

In this edit, you named five persons and labeled them "drug users". You cited a source that neither mentions their names, neither calls them drug users. Such behavior of yours is very problematic. This is not the first time you are inserting inflammatory claims into articles and citing sources that actually do not verify your claims. Here, I asked you about another such edit, but you failed to respond. Take this as the last warning. If you continue to make such edits, you may be blocked without further warning. Vanjagenije (talk) 15:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's what he wrote in an article about human rights in Serbia. Savasampion (talk) 15:01, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Who is he? Who wrote it? Vanjagenije (talk) 00:24, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They deleted now. See history page. Savasampion (talk) 09:51, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit-warring on Balkan articles[edit]

Stop. Further edit-warring such as that on Independent State of Croatia will result in escalating blocks. You have already been warned about possible sanctions regarding disruptive editing on such articles. That also goes for unjustified tagging with no proper justification on the talk page. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 14:08, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What's not clear? A self-proclaimed creation that was not recognized by the allied countries. Savasampion (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Discuss it on the talk page please. Bring reliable sources. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Dog cemetery" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Ottoman versus Greek Macedonia[edit]

Hi, there are two distinct articles here: Slavic speakers in Ottoman Macedonia and Slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia, hence their inhabitants are different too. Jingiby (talk) 04:11, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Vasil Chekalarov (1874-1913), Gotse Delchev (1872-1903),... have nothing to do with Greece. Anton Yugov was born in Ottoman times too.
Under the 1920 Treaty of Sèvres, Greece opened schools for minority-language children, and in September 1924 Greece agreed to a protocol with Bulgaria to place its Slavic-speaking minority under the protection of the League of Nations as Bulgarians. However, the Greek parliament refused to ratify the protocol due to objections from Serbia, considering the Slavic speakers to be Serbs rather than Bulgarians, and from Greeks who considered the Slavic speakers to be Slavicized Greeks rather than ethnic Slavs. As far as I understand, we are talking about an ethnolinguistic group that lives in the territory of Greek/Aegean Macedonia and speaks a "Slavic language". For these reasons, I think that the template Serbs should be placed. Savasampion (talk) 22:03, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 2023[edit]

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Vanjagenije (talk) 22:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although I warned you, you continue to add unsourced controversial info ([3]). That has to stop. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:14, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Literally, the article says the source?
    The third last line in the first paragraph. Savasampion (talk) 01:08, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    On top of the fact that this is a primary source with all that entails, you did not provide the source when you added the information. By inserting the information in the way you did, without providing the source, you made it appear that the information came from either Cheney et al or O’Neill, which are the two citations at the end of that sentence. That is unacceptable editing behaviour, especially on a figure whose origins are so contested. Please read and apply Wikipedia policies when you are editing. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:24, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    So I should have put this in the description of the picture? Savasampion (talk) 11:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    No. Read WP:CITE and WP:RS. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 12:53, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please refrain from adding, removing or changing genres without providing a source or establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 17:39, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • After you introduced this edit, I reverted you and left you a message at Talk:Alexander I of Yugoslavia#Bulgarian girl. What you did is very problematic. You added some controversial info to the article and cited a book, but it turned out that the book does not verify your claim. Instead of answering, you reinstated your edit, now citing a different book (Teodorov, "Balkanskite voini", pp. 259, 261.). I searched Google Books, but couldn't find that book. Since you already misused sources several times, there is high possibility that you just invented this source. Therefore, I had to block you. I am willing to unblock you as soon as you show that such a book exists, that it's a reliable source and that it verifies your claim. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello. I hope you will read the message. In The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914 (pdf copy) I found a reference to that source. There is also a picture of the page it says on. I didn't make anything up and I'm sorry if it wasn't true. I will try not to make any more mistakes and aggressions in the coming period. Thank you for your understanding. Savasampion (talk) 22:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where exactly is the "girl" mentioned in the book? Vanjagenije (talk) 18:49, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    She is not mentioned in that source, but I left the others that mention the girl. I will not go into whether it really happened, but I referred to that source that I found. I didn't make it up, but I combined (stay) all the sources that probably led to the conclusion that it was the same event. The fact that it is not published on Google Books does not mean that the book does not exist at all. Thanks. Savasampion (talk) 19:26, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Request reason:

My fault and someone else's. I hope I won't cause any problems in the next period. Savasampion (talk) 22:14, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This is incoherent to me. 331dot (talk) 09:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Request reason:

Vanjagenije blocked me because he claims that I have no source for the above mentioned book being mentioned anywhere.In The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914 (pdf copy) I found a reference to that source. I didn't make anything up and I'm sorry if it wasn't true. I will try not to make any more mistakes in the coming period.--Savasampion (talk) 18:33, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I'm soft closing this on the advice of the blocking admin. 331dot (talk) 18:36, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Ok, so you did not invent the Teodorov book, I guess. It is mentioned as a source in the Clark book. But, have you ever seen it? Have you seen the book you are citing, or are you citing a book without knowing its content? Vanjagenije (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. That book exists (type the original title in Cyrillic Балканските войни Теодоров).--Savasampion (talk) 12:42, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read it and why didn't you reply?--Savasampion (talk) 17:54, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am waiting for you to answer my question. The question was: Have you seen the book you are citing, or are you citing a book without knowing its content? Vanjagenije (talk) 20:02, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't I say a few days ago? I did, I saw the book I quoted. It is mentioned in the section on the Second Balkan War. Savasampion (talk) 22:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are lying. I think you just saw the citation of the Todorov book inside the Clark book, and then you used it as a reference without knowing its content. This is very problematic, as it shows that you are not aware of the importance of WP:V. To the reviewing admin: I recommend this unblock request be declined. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:16, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why would I? In the chapter МЕЖДУСЪЮЗНИЧЕСКАТА ВОЙНА that starts on page 182, in sub-chapter 6 СРЪБСКИ ПРЕДИЗВИКАТЕЛСТВА from 259-264. First I used the Clark book and later I saw in the original book. It was easier for me to write the first title of the book, because I hesitated about the translation of the title of the second. Savasampion (talk) 23:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]