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Category:Redirects from EPs

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The article List of alternative names for Metatron has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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I didn't create the article but thank you for telling me anyway. McLerristarr | Mclay1 04:30, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Brisbane meetup with Sue Gardner invitation

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Category:Northern Songs

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Brisbane Meetup

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Potential admin

Hi, I notice you're on Wikipedia:List of administrator hopefuls. Wikipedia would benefit from more admins. If you have been editing for more than 12 months (preferably 24+ months), and have been editing fairly consistently for the past 6 months (preferably 12+ months) with at least 100 edits a month (this tool will help) - or an explanation for any gaps, and haven't been blocked or topic banned in the past three years - or a good explanation for a recent block or ban, don't have a recent history of edit warring or arguing with other editors, feel you can explain why you wish to be an admin, can demonstrate some understanding of Wikipedia's procedures and processes, or know where to go for guidance, and are confident enough to go through a RfA, please get in touch with me. We can talk about it some more, and if all looks OK, I'll nominate you. SilkTork ✔Tea time 12:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for this. A couple of years ago, I was editing very frequently, and that's when I would have put myself on that list. Since then, just because of life in general, I am much less active. I would still love to be an admin, but I haven't had 100 edits a month for a while, and I can't promise that I will any time soon. Apart from that, I do feel that I have a good understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, including the Manual of Style (of which I initiated the move to the current subpage structure). If you feel it's still possible for me to be an admin now or in the future, I'd love to continue this conversation. Cheers, McLerristarr | Mclay1 12:40, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for getting back to me. After looking at your contributions I agree with your own assessment. You would need between six and twelve months of consistently higher contribution levels to have a reasonable chance of the community accepting you as an admin. If you do that, and still feel that you would like to help out further by becoming an admin, please get in touch again, and we can have a chat then about what would need to be done. Assisting in admin related areas, such as AfD, AN, CSD, etc, plus getting involved in GA - doing reviews, and perhaps getting an article to GA level, would also help. Regards SilkTork ✔Tea time 11:19, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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Redirect categorization

Hi Matt! You've been interested in redirect categorization and the This is a redirect template in the past, so I wanted to let you know that there is a discussion at Template talk:This is a redirect#One parameter that might interest you.  Good faith! Paine  20:28, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Special characters and sort keys

On the wiktionaries, sort keys always delete special characters or replace them with blanks. This basic principle of bibliotechnics (systematically used in all paper dictionaries) does not seem to be covered in the Wikipedia conventions (or at the very least I can't find it). Urhixidur (talk) 17:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

From WP:SORTKEY: "Because the software uses an imperfect computer sorting rather than true alphabetical ordering (see details), it is important that some sort keys be adjusted. Accented characters must be replaced by their English-language counterparts. For example, the Łódź article uses {{DEFAULTSORT:Lodz}}."
It also says: "Only hyphens, apostrophes and periods/full stops punctuation marks should be kept in sort values. All other punctuation marks should be removed. The only exception is the apostrophe should be removed for names beginning with O'. For example, Eugene O'Neill is sorted {{DEFAULTSORT:ONeill, Eugene}}." It's not clear whether en-dashes and em-dashes should be kept. If not, they should probably be replaced by hyphens. I've been using AWB to go through the redirects, and it's not easy to tell in the program whether the mark is a dash or hyphen.
Wikipedia used to sort upper- and lower-case letters differently, but that was changed a while ago. I think it's still good practice to use capitals where appropriate for readability. I've also been putting commas in when words have been re-arranged (as is the standard practice in English), because it can make a difference to the sort order. If everything is standardised, there won't be any inconsistency. McLerristarr | Mclay1 17:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing me to WP:SORTKEY.
"It's not clear whether en-dashes and em-dashes should be kept" : definitely replace them with hyphens in the sort keys. Variants that differ by the lengths of their dashes should sort together, and the numerical values of the characters are too different to guarantee this unless the sort key substitution is done. Urhixidur (talk) 17:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Redirection sort keys

I'm a little puzzled by your series of reversions to the sort keys of Category:Country data redirects (for instance, this one). Although there is some merit to sorting these redirects by their raw character sequences, the category is far from being consistently sorted this way as yet, with for instance Template:Country data Duchy of Brunswick sorted under B for Brunswick. Care to comment? Urhixidur (talk) 19:55, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I noticed that the category wasn't consistent. Unless there is a consensus I didn't realise about, I didn't see the need for your changes, so I reverted them. In my opinion, it makes way more sense to sort by the actual name of the redirect (minus the "Country data" bit), rather than in a reversed order, as you did it, or by the name of the template that the redirect points to it, like others do. I suppose we should take the opportunity to discuss it somewhere and gain a consensus. McLerristarr | Mclay1 21:00, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
My intent was to regroup entries that are obviously about the same thing under the same key. Thus Yugoslavia and Republic of Yugoslavia should be together, and so on. I stress "obviously" because an entry like ZA (which points to South Africa) should remain under Z because its meaning is not immediately apparent. This type of sort key tuning is very useful (to the reader) in categories that are lists of countries and such like; the particular category of concern here (Country data redirects) is more of a maintenance category, and therefore could be sorted either way. The important thing is to sort the entire category consistently, which is currently not the case. My preference is for the analogical sort I've already outlined. What do you think? Urhixidur (talk) 21:07, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
I definitely agree on the "ZA" point. Your point about "Yugoslavia" makes sense, and I'm unsure which way is better. We have to think about what the reader would expect. In this case, because it's a maintenance category, and quite an obscure one, the reader will almost always be a (probably experienced) Wikipedia editor. Because there are cases like ZA or even a one-word name that points to something completely different, I'd be expecting to find them under their actual names. Another user changed some of the redirects I created so that the sort key was the same as the target (like ZA being sorted under "South Africa"). To me, that's confusing, and it's not clear from looking at the list of pages in the category where a particular page is pointed. It makes sense to just use the name of the page as the sort key, unless there's a reason to do otherwise. If we were to do it your way, I think we'd need a note at the top of the category telling readers that that's how they were sorted. It would also need to be properly standardised, like "Yugoslavia, Republic of", formatting it consistently for every country with a prefix, even for cases where the actual article about the country has the prefix in the title. McLerristarr | Mclay1 21:55, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Note added to the category page. I do believe the analogical sort will be more useful to maintainers, because it allows one to find, at a glance, all the redirects that point to the same thing. There are a few redirects where it is less clear which sort key is preferable: for instance, I think "British India" is distinct enough to merit being filed under B rather than I (it is more "British" than "Indian"). What's funny is that this is yet another instance where a certain feature I've requested long ago from the Wiki developers would be helpful: the ability to file a page under multiple sort keys. Urhixidur (talk) 13:45, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Wouldn't it make more sense to keep Template:Country data United Mexican States sorted alongside the other Mexico entries? Urhixidur (talk) 16:48, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
As a name by itself, I figure it's like the United Arab Emirates. But I guess sorting it as "Mexican States, United" works too. McLerristarr | Mclay1 17:25, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
If it were alone, I would indeed sort it under U, but since it is just an alternate form of the long form of MexicoUrhixidur (talk) 19:03, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I suppose you're right. McLerristarr | Mclay1 19:08, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hey. That would be great, actually. Thanks. So do I just make a request here? McLerristarr | Mclay1 12:57, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 Done. Please take note of the templated message below. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Floruit

Through mostly legitimate methods I've managed to deal with the issues you raised at WT:WPT regarding {{b.}}, {{commons file inline}}, and {{see section}}. The last one on your list is {{floruit}}. I've set up some tracking categories, and it appears that none of the new stuff is actually used (only the params that were originally included). Based on the ridiculous discussion at the {{b.}} talk page, even if we both comment that these parameters are rather useless and should be removed, I don't think they'll listen. What do you think is the best course of action? I'm not sure garnering assistance from WPT would help (since it's not terribly active), and I can't really think of any policy-based reasons to "keep it simple" so to speak. It basically comes down to us (it's overly complicated with unnecessary bells and whistles) vs them (it's not overly complicated etc). Basically, IDONTLIKEIT vs ILIKEIT. Let me know what you think. Primefac (talk) 02:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

@Primefac: I know what you mean. I'm not sure what else can be done but fight it until he eventually gives in (but not so much as to be called an edit war). It's difficult to get any further opinions because, as you said, there is generally low activity on and care for this template and related pages as it's so minor. There must be a process for this kind of thing, but I don't know what it is. M.Clay1 (talk) 08:45, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Good work with merging the other templates. That was a good call. M.Clay1 (talk) 08:46, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

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Beatles Recording Sessions

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Hello,

I understand why you moved the article, but I thought I would explain why it is named that way. It is one of the articles about prehistoric life that is in the {{Prehistoric technology}}. By making it a generic "storage pit" article title, it means that the focus of this article could change... and no longer specific to prehistoric pits of specific uses.

We could made storage pit a disambig page to storage and other related articles... and return storage pit (archaeology) to keep that it's own specific topic. How would that work?–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved it to Prehistoric storage pits. That seems to make the most sense and is the easiest solution.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:02, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
That's probably the best solution. It's not a good idea to disambiguate pages where no other pages of the same title or even similar titles exist. M.Clay1 (talk) 04:56, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

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Why was my message removed and not archived? Just wondered. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 13:32, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I see. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 13:33, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
No problem. I moved your reply to your talk page. M.Clay1 (talk) 13:50, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

ArbCom

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in discussions about infoboxes and to edits adding, deleting, collapsing, or removing verifiable information from infoboxes. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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- SchroCat (talk) 07:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

My Bonnie Tony Sheridan

Hello, I had removed the sentence «Because of the later fame of the Beatles, the material has been repackaged several times» from the introduction because I felt it did not belong here. On Sheridan's My Bonnie album, apart for the title track and The Saints, none were repackaged. The material you speak of are the 8 tunes recorded by the Beatles with or without Sheridan in Hamburg in 61 & 62. You say «the exact material involving the Beatles is unknown», but most experts (ie Mark Lewishon and Hans Olof Gottfridsson) seem to agree that only 9 songs were recorded and one was lost (Swanee River). Thus, I have rewritten part of the intro to make it closer to what I believe is right. Regards. JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 16:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@JeanPaulGRingault: Yes but it is still true that the non-Beatles Beat Brothers tracks have been repackaged because of the Beatles. The Beatles recordings that were not included on the album were recorded in the sessions for the album, so are still covered by the article content. M.Clay1 (talk) 23:50, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
@Mclay1:The repackaging of the BBros tracks are not from the My Bonnie album (exept for Ready Teddy for the 1984 CD) but from a single (Ruby Baby / What'd I Say - 1963) and an E.P. (Ya Ya). Ruby Baby seems to have been previously unreleased. The Beatles tracks and the album tracks were from two different sessions 6 months apart. For that reason, I do not agree with your assessment that «The Beatles recordings that were not included on the album were recorded in the sessions for the album ». But I believe my new edit adresses your objections while taking in account mine. Thanks for caring! JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 00:18, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Frank Sinatra

Please stop at Talk:Frank Sinatra. Normally you would be free to battle on and insist on your point of view. However, the topic of infoboxes is under discretionary sanctions as noted at #ArbCom above. That means it's best to let it go. Your question was sure to be in good faith and so on but it is rather out of place in the survey section of a highly contested RfC. Johnuniq (talk) 09:33, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

The one who needs to stop is SchroCat. M.Clay1 (talk) 09:52, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for changing the collapse heading, that's a good idea. You are correct about the other editor but multiple comments in the survey section is not desirable. After all, the matter has been fought out at Arbitration and people should live with the fact that views are hot on both sides. Johnuniq (talk) 10:13, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
(only that the RfC is not about the infobox, only if it should be collapsed or open, no more. Some don't even understand the RfC question, it seems. I was called a monster five years ago, same article, same question. I tried to take it with humour. It's tiring, though. So much ado about so little.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
He has made the same number of comments as me and is abusing other editors. That's exactly the behaviour that led to the sanctions. Why is no action being taken? I don't understand the point of the sanctions when the main offenders this time are the same ones as last time. M.Clay1 (talk) 00:17, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Just so you're aware

In case you weren't aware, there is a discussion going down at Arbcom regarding you. ~ HAL333 01:53, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at AE

There is a discussion concerning you at arbitration enforcement. While I know that you have participated at the discussion you may wish to revisit it as sanctions have been suggested against you by an uninvolved administrator. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:39, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: Thank you. I am aware and have responded. I strongly disagree with their assessment and would appreciate any clarification. MClay1 (talk) 15:47, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Arbitration Appeal

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Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Amendment request: Civility in infobox discussions closed and archived

Amendment request: Civility in infobox discussions has been closed and archived. The archived amendment request can be viewed here.

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October harvest

treats --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

"Template:R from incorrect punctuation" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The article Not Just a Pretty Face (Rowan Atkinson album) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:GNG. No coverage to be found. Not mentioned at either Rowan Atkinson or Rowan Atkinson filmography.

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Lennart97 (talk) 12:18, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

It is better to include a subject when adding {{expert}} to a page (like {{expert|Literature|ex2=Telugu language}}so that it can be sorted into the proper category. jp×g 08:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@JPxG: Noted, thanks. Though the template may end up deleted anyway. MClay1 (talk) 10:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:The_Beatles_and_radio

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Anglo-Saxon pound

FYI, I have wp:nuked the article Anglo-Saxon pound because it was an irredeemable mess of OR and post-Conquest material copied blindly from other articles. It was easy to see what should not have been in the article but difficult to add what should. I have left a note at Anglo-Saxons asking if anyone there has the expertise to make into something useful or (perhaps more sensibly) merge it into the Anglo-Saxons article. Yours was a good call, I'm annoyed that I didn't see the wood for the trees before. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)