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Democracy

How can you describe my edits as POV? How is a huge wall and the use of human shields a country with civil liberties? --MiddleEastern 21:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I know what democracy is, and it doesn't work. Are you Israeli/Jewish? --MiddleEastern 21:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
No I mean in reality are you from Israel and/or are you Jewish? It just seems like you must be. Im not personal attacking you--MiddleEastern 21:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I apologise, the link you gave me only shows your edits, please review --MiddleEastern 21:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The other half of this talk: [1]. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Roman Emperors

Thanks for that, it wasn't easy! All those emperors. I debated whether or not to include Byzantine Emperors. I see the name Andronikos doesn't come up...hmmm.--User:Avram Fawcett 6:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For your warm and welcoming demeanor, and your over 20,000 wonderful contributions to the project. Thank you. Smee 06:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Feel free to post above on your userpage(s), and/or leave on your talk page as you see fit. The part below is not part of the Barnstar itself, just a personal message to you...

It's been quite awhile since we've last interacted here on Wikipedia, and I've learned a bunch since then... Just wanted to take a moment to again thank you for that initial welcome, and for all of your positive contributions in so many ways. Hope you are doing well. Yours, Smee 06:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

Re-call

Would you be willing to be recalled as an admin? --MiddleEastern 13:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe Humus lists himself in CAT:AOR - NYC JD (interrogatories) 12:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hamas

Well, it's an anti-semitic organization, but whom does it help to label individual member AS absent specific evidence of animus? If I am a resgistered republican who voted for Bush, does that mean I am "anti-abortion people"? Hamas is not a single issue group, so it's possible to be a member of Hamas and not AS. I think you ought to revert yourself. I will not revert you. Cheers. - NYC JD (interrogatories) 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

India-Israel relations

As you have probably noticed there is a discussion pending on the neutrality and adequacy of references on this article. Since I put the tags, 2 quite problematic references have been deleted, by a user who wants to defend the article using very likely sockpuppetry. So, do not blindly reverse well funded doubt abouts the general orientation, lack of neutrality and appropriate references of this article. Everything is being documented in the discussion page there. TwoHorned 12:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

WP Israel Template

Hi Humus, I want to start an article improvement drive in WP Israel, but I don't know the technical stuff behind editing the template to allow for article importance and rating. Could you add the necessary syntax? There is a link to the rating page from the top of WP Israel Talk. Thanks. --יהושועEric 16:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I have done some work on the template. Can you test to see if it works and fix what doesn't? --יהושועEric 03:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Why have you added unverified information?

Hello, Why did you add unverified information to the article here? The tag requesting citation has been left ignored for two months. Is that not enough time for citation? WP:ATT says "Editors should provide attribution for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or it may be removed."

Thus, Wikipedia permits me to remove unsourced material, but does not permit you to add it.Bless sins 21:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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Talmud

OK, since you called it a POV fork and removed it from the criticism of judaism- now what? Should I add it to the Talmud article? thestick 10:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, since I made it in the most neutral wording possible(considering the viewpoints of the critics and the rebuttals), and provided links to an actual talmud for the chapters that were online, also letting a geocities page stay as a primary source, and you first removed the section saying "fake quotes" and later accuse me of creating a "POV fork" (which is total nonsense, there were no POV's involved, and I don't care who's right), I think you should at least have the courtesy to reply. thestick 18:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Suppose I do find a more reliable source than hoffman - should I add it to Talmud or Criticism of Judaism ? thestick 14:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
OK I've recreated the section and removed the quotes - please let me know if I have attained NPOVation . thestick 10:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Good book

I picked up 'A Force upon the Plain' just the other day to add some material to Mark Koernke and some related pages. Tom Harrison Talk 22:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you have a look at these articles and their talk?

Could you have a look at these articles and their talk?

I feel the articles are extremely well sourced and balanced. I'd like somebody else to remove the tags. Please look at my last versions, because I have run up against somebody from the evolution/creation universe who wants to troll around for lehakholis (Aramaic word, you might be able to guess what it means). --Metzenberg 03:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Israel Assessment

Hey Humus, I got the template setup. I have done almost everything, but I don't know anything about adding categories and dealing with that. I found this: Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Using_the_bot And need to add the Israel page here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Israel/Assessment/Statistics To this category: Category:Wikipedia_1.0_assessments

It will probably only take a minute, but I can't figure it out. Thanks. --יהושועEric 20:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I have everything working except for the article importance categories. I am not sure why that isn't working. Please look if you get a chance. I think I have like 50 edits today on Israel stuff, LOL. Oy, I should be studying. Anyways, thanks for the help. --יהושועEric 21:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the recognition. I am glad to see you like what I did. --יהושועEric 21:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Sourcing articles

Hi Humus. When you're creating and expanding articles, could you please take care to ensure that they're sourced? -- ChrisO 20:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I just added a {{unreferenced}} template to Useful Jew, which I see you started. It's a pretty good article, but we need to ensure that what we add is properly referenced. -- ChrisO 21:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for sorting this out - nice work! -- ChrisO 08:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleting a site for art, music and culture in Jerusalem?!

Moved this section to Talk:Jerusalem#Deleting a site for art, music and culture in Jerusalem?!. ←Humus sapiens ну? 07:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:Havlagah bus in Palestine during Great Arab revolt.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Havlagah bus in Palestine during Great Arab revolt.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Abu badali (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Israel

The IUSSP is cited in Wikipedia many times [2]. So much for WP:OR and reliable sources. Besides, there are many sections in Wikipedia that contain OR and are tagged, not deleted. Same goes for POV disputes. As it goes for jewish settlers being socialist or refugees, they settled in a new land. So, they were settlers. Feel free to dispute if it's colonialism or not, but political ideology does not exempt one from being contradictory. Socialism doesn't make the jewish settlers there any better or worse - you are just appealing to the no true Scotsman fallacy. Palestinians left because the 1948 Arab-Israeli War was instigated by arabs... so next time the russian army attacks Chechenya I'll say it's every single russian's fault. There was no national military organization in the Arab Palestinian community at the time of the war, and the war efforts were mainly done by other arab countries. Then again, don't insert your POV claiming that since some arabs started a war, other arabs deserve to be displaced - that's a hasty generalization. --Teh Original Mr. Orange (Orange juice?) 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Rabbis for Human Rights

I started a criticism section here but can't find much info from reliable sources actually criticizing the sympathizers of terrorism.Bakaman 23:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Administratorship

Hi Humus sapiens,

I would like to request you to seek the community support for your adminship again. I am not saying you don't have the support but that I only have some small concerns. Thanks very much --Aminz 11:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Humus sapiens, I would like to ask you to re-gain the community support. It is not a matter of personal grievances. I believe Admins are no different from usual editors except that they have the community's support. Some editors believe that admins should re-new this support for every now and then. As such I would like to request you to re-new your adminship.--Aminz 11:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I have not seen any other admin who generally engages in edit warring as you do.
Also, your recent edits to Arab and Antisemitism article was restoring material sourced to primary sources (violation of WP:RS and WP:NOR) [3], [4]. Additionally, you do not join the talk page either. --Aminz 23:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Set aside the POV issue. It is written without mentioning the story of the other side, i.e. accusions of treason. The fate of Jews outside Arabian Pensilania should not be mixed with that of those inside that region. Just to show how easy it is to write of a period showing everything perfect please see the following Lewis's quote says: "Some even among the Christians of Syria and Egypt preffered the rule of Islam to that of Byzantines. A Jewish apocalyptic writing of the early Islamic period makes an angel say to a rabbinic seer: 'Do not fear, Ben Yohay; the Creater, blessed be He, has only brought the Kingdom of Ishmael in order to save you from this wickedness [i.e. Byzantium]...the Holy one, blessed be He, will raise up for them a Prophet according to His will, and conquer the land for them, and they will come and restore it...' We may compare with this the words of a later Syric Christian historian: 'Therefore the God of vengeance delivered us out of the hand of the Romans by means of the Arabs...It profited us not a little to be saved from the cruelty of the Romans and their bitter hatred towards us' The people of the conquered provinces did not confine themselves to simply accepting the new regime, but in some cases actively assisted in its establishment. In Palestine the Samaritans, according to tradition, gave such effective aid to the Arab invaders that they were for some time exempted from certain taxes, and there are many other reports in the early chronicles of local Jewish and Christian assistance."
All these examples show the POV issue further. --Aminz 23:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
It is my personal belief that you do not have the support of 70% of the community as a neutral-enough editor to be an admin. I have some concerns about your familiarity with the wikipedia policies. --Aminz 00:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Humus sapiens, I don't want to go through the official process. I just wanted to express my concerns. If you indeed have the community support, then there should be no problem with re-newing that. I believe such re-nominations is generally very beneficial to the encyclopedia and a sign of good faith and being faithful to the essential purposes of wikipedia. I think all admins who belong to the category of Administrators open to recall, would somehow agree that the continuity of community support is important. --Aminz 00:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
BTW, re your comment: "Looks like you are trying to get rid of an opponent in content dispute", please note that normal editors are no different from Admins. My concerns is about your neutrality in matters requiring admin action, and your familiarity with the wikipedia policies. If you indeed have the community support, then there should be no problem with re-newing that. --Aminz 00:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The other half of this conversation: [5]. ←Humus sapiens ну? 01:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I second Aminz. If anything, requesting any sort of feeback from the community will give you suggestions on how to improve yourself (we all need improvement). I hope you don't take my comments as "harassment". It is only a suggestion, that would be helpful for all of us. Please do consider it. Have a nice day.Bless sins 20:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Unless you, gentlemen, can point out my admin action in question, I will consider reporting you for harassment. Intimidation won't work here. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I would actually appreciate it if a larger number of community could have a look at this case. They can see this personal attack by Eric(calling two editors anti-Israel and anti-Semites), and also the not so civil response of H.S. in response to criticisms. --Aminz 00:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Is this about any particular administrative action on Humus sapiens' part, or just an expression of frustration related to the ongoing multi-article Islam and antisemitism dispute?Proabivouac 00:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
This is about my concerns about insufficiency of familiarity of H.S. about wikipedia policies as expected from admins and required in their possible admin action. Examples include edit warring over usage of primary sources (hadith) here [6] (3 edit in a day, no edit on the section I opened on the talk page). I eventually ended up neutralizing an original research through reliable sources [7]. --Aminz 00:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think so. I don't see any relevance of a content dispute to my adminship: I try to keep the two functions separate, let me know if I failed. Aminz, after months of your POV pushing you lost my good faith. Your childish outbursts should not be taken seriously. ←Humus sapiens ну? 01:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, after downplaying the personal attack of Eric, now you make your language more uncivil. Please do me a favor and take my " childish outbursts" seriously and expose this thread to a larger section of the community. --Aminz 02:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
If you feel a need to file a request, by all means do it. But don't tell me what to do. I'll be back in a day. ←Humus sapiens ну? 02:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
No surprise it is two Muslims (probably anti-Israel and anti-Semites) discussing this. If you need it, I will support you and the hard work you have put in to a vast number of articles you have worked on. --יהושועEric 00:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Erik, thank you but let's not jump to conclusions and name calling. Aminz, if there is a "case", let me know about it. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Nice. Now, personal attacks are considered simply "jumping to conclusions and name calling".... --Aminz 00:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Aminz, please stop harassing Humus sapiens. Beit Or 19:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Rather, one can call Aminz's bluff, its not like the community sympathizes with the sympathizzers of BhaiSaab.Bakaman 22:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
It's really sad to see all the false accusations (anti-Semites, harassing, sympathizzers of BhaiSaab) being hurled at Aminz and I here. Can anyone point out the relevent clause in Wikipedia:Harassment that applies to our actions here?Bless sins 15:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Bless sins, I did not see your post, and therefore did not accuse you of being sympathetic to bhaisaab. For aminz OTOH, the allegation I made is quite correct, and links between the two abound.Bakaman 23:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Israel Shahak poll

Please vote in the poll for replacing the Praise, Criticism and Accusations sections with a short summary. Your opinion is much valued. Thanks. Itayb 22:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiTalmud

Hi Humus, I just started a new project with a friend that I think you might be interested in. I would love for your imput and help in starting this up. Our goal: An internet wiki database that contains the major Jewish texts and a forum for discussing and arguing halacha. Check it out: WikiTalmud. --יהושועEric 06:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Black September in Jordan

Please refrain from editing out obscenity in other users' comments (see WP:NOT). --CA387 03:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Update: Sorry, glossed over that exception. Reverted back. CA387 03:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Vital articles

Hi, Do you notice to WP:VA. This page does have a problem with being Eurocentric. I proposed some notable persons and other things. But I'm not knowledgeable in the case of Judaism. Also there is a debate about religious leaders and scholars in Wikipedia talk:Vital articles#Religious scholars and leaders. Please participate in the discussions or invite other knowledgeable wikipedians in this case.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 15:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I hope just knowledgeable wikipedians come come there.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 09:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Holocaust Denial Laws in North America

Re your recent edit of The Holocaust, the sections of Holocaust denial: James Keegstra and The Zündel Trials cover the questions of Canadian Laws. United States Laws relating to Holocaust Denial are conspicious by their ommission.--TGC55 12:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think what I did was vandalism

On the page for the 6 day war I adde in the fact that Israel was aided by the USA and Great Britain during the 6 day war and I beleive this is a true statement (correct me if I'm wrong) so could you please put it back or let me put it back? -Llama ruler (talk • contribs) 04:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC).

I know they weren't combatants I put the words "aided by" next to it. The side for the palestinians showed both the combatants and who they were aided by so i thought it would be fair to input the countries who aided israel. -Llama ruler (talk • contribs) (UTC).

Wafa Sultan

It's pretty damn obvious that *you* have a bias. The source given is reputable by Wikipedia's standards and is certainly more credible then MEMRI is. "InFocus was featured in the LA Times, Orange County Register, and Anaheim Bulletin. NPR (KPCC 89.3) has also invited its editor multiple times to speak on issues related to Islam and Muslims in the Southland." I will have a talk with Jimbo about your systematic bias when I see him next. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.150.40.36 (talk) 06:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

Say hi for me. ←Humus sapiens ну? 06:55, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you help in improving the english

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1929_Hebron_massacre&diff=121510975&oldid=121509049 Zeq 20:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: nonsense.

Please keep articles neutral, instead of harassing descent people. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.161.61.43 (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

Report made to incident board

Please see:

FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Zeq_and_Zero0000 Zeq 15:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Request For Mediation

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Shalom My Friend

Hope all is well! 76.109.163.61

Re: Thank you

A sad day indeed, filled with senselessness and sorrow... It would ease some of the tragedy if the general public had some idea of what lead to this disaster. 76.109.163.61

Is today a better day my friend?
The Liviu Librescu article is evolving...
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PROBLEM!

User: DXRAW Nominated the Liviu Librescu article for a speedy deletion. [8] 76.109.163.61

El Al POV

I have a problem with the El Al article. A section named controversy keeps on being entered into the Security section. This is not neutral, not in content but in the fact that its being entered....obvious reasons. I set up a poll on the talk page Talk:El Al#Controversy Section where we had three votes for excluding it, and two for including it. Another vote we had to exclude was scored out by User:Metros232. The article went quiet for a week or so and the section was re-entered this afternoon. Please advise me as to the best action to take. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere 16:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Lewis Libby

Sorry to bother you, but was hoping you might weigh in on the never-ending Lewis Libby dispute. If you look at the recent talk page, you can see that a couple of editors are saying that we need to state whether any US policymaker who deals with Israel is Jewish or not. One of the editors also insists on putting in a link to Libby's temple, and has even posted Libby's membership on the temple's page (the only one accorded such a privilege). Another outside voice would be helpful, as would any suggestions you might have in bringing this to a resolution. Thanks. Notmyrealname 18:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

LiviuLibrescu.com

Stating that LiviuLibrescu.com is owned by a Conservative fundraising group is not my personal opinion or an attempt to use Liviu Librescu's talk page to promote my own beliefs, it is a fact. --Overlook1977 12:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Lebanon

Hello Humus Sapiens ;-) Could you please tell me what the point is from putting that map of Shi'a-concentration areas in Lebanon on the Lebanon Portal?.. you know, instead of the beautiful Cedars under the snow? :o) Thanks. —Jixavius 16:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

(Responding here because you dislike fragmented discussions) Sorry, I have no idea what this is about and why you're asking me. AFAIK, I've never edited the page [9] and it's not in my watchlist. Let me know if/how I can help. ←Humus sapiens ну? 19:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion "widely regarded as"

I'm not implying anything. However, if you refer to the discussion on the page, you will see that as the original 'protocols' which the printed versions descend from are lost, it is impossible to authoritatively call them a forgery.

Seems like we are going a bit far by saying with authority something that can not be known with authority. Sukiari 20:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

The other half of this talk: [10]. ←Humus sapiens ну? 21:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Request for intervention

Thanks for your post on the Libby page. As a result, the user in question posted a nasty message on my talk page. Notmyrealname 22:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

For the information on Liviu Librescu. Epson291 04:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Shirahadasha RfA thanks

Thanks so much for taking the time to comment on my my RfA, which was successful. I learned a lot from the comments, I appreciate everything that was said, and I'll do my best to deserve the community's trust. Thanks again! And thanks for your kind words and support. --Shirahadasha 04:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Halakhic - cap?

I'm trying to determine if the adjective "Halakhic" should be capitalized when not at the beginning of a sentence. Both the Jew and Halakha articles are internally inconsistent on this point.--Steven J. Anderson 23:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

ArbReq/NYScholar

Just to let you know that I filed an Arb/Req over NYScholar's actions [11].Notmyrealname 23:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I guess I didn't make clear that you are a named party to all this. Your comment would be most appreciated. Thanks. Notmyrealname 01:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

"Jewish descent" versus Jew

See the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#"Jewish descent" versus Jew concerning the problems of using the term "Jewish descent" versus "Jew" as well as the related proposal. Thank you, IZAK 09:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Baka's unblocking

Excuse me, but when has any blocked editor been unblocked to respond on ANI? This user just present his case for unblocking, but you unblock him to counter evidence? user:BhaiSaab was not unblocked to comment on WP:CN discussion on banning him - he commented through his talkpage. I don't really want to undo what you did, but I'm afraid I'm gonna have to unless you can explain this. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 23:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

And not to mention the general consensus that has approved this blocking at ANI. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 23:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
You have the right to your own opinion, which I respect. You did not, however, respect the consensus approval of Baka's block. Nor was there any justifiable need to unblock him - I see he has commented on ANI, pretty much a copy/paste of what he said on the talkpage. As for the evidence, it is generally frowned upon to release private e-mails, but if the community demands the evidence, I will not hesitate to post it. So far the community hasn't required that and both DaGizza and Aksi great have seen the evidence (2 admins). Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 00:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, water-under-bridge. However, I don't rank offenders. I'm not gonna cut him any slack. As Hkelkar is not interested in dropping his relentless socking, I don't want to see an up-and-about meatpuppet of his waltzing across Wikipedia. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 00:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Gilda Radner Live From New York.jpg)

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Admin help

Hi Humus: There is a mix-up going on, see User talk:Hmains#Duplicate category?. The guy is screwing things up. IZAK 09:00, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Judaism

Anti Judaism

I did not delete any category; I added a category to the artices. I did this so the collection of articles would not disappear. I do not think the anti-Judaism category should be deleted, but every other anti-religion category has been deleted in the last few days so I expect this one will go also. I was trying to be helpful. Why all the excitement? Hmains 03:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

straw poll

See straw poll at Talk:Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid#A_quick_straw_poll.--Urthogie 13:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Category Deletions

Hi Humus, When creating the article rating system and statistics, I created categories that were not used by the statistics bot, and would like to delete them. Due to my not being an admin, I can't do that, so if you wouldn't mind, I would appreciate it. To find the categories, click on the statistics grid on the project page and you will notice a few empty categories. --יהושועEric 01:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I fixed the grid, so to find the bad categories, click on the importance links at the top and change the word "importance" to "priority". That will take you to the empty categories. --יהושועEric 01:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

My talk page

First off, I don't see how any of this is your business. It is between myself and Jayjg so do not put that discussion on my talk page. I don't see you putting it on Jayjg's so why limit to just mine. Trust me, I am trying really hard to remain civil and assume good faith with you, but in the future, if I need a comment from you or for you to butt in where it doesn't concern you, I will tell you it is ok to. In the meantime, refrain from posting discussions on my talk page. MetsFan76 03:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Liviu Librescu

First, thank you very much for your kind copy edit.

Refering to this edit, and only to the first part (I agree with your second part): thousands of Jews were deported to Transnistria (the difference between ghettos and labor camps there was only the cause of death: starvation or exhaustion, by far not like the ghetto in Czerniwitz-Cernăuţi-Chernivtsi), not to the small city of Focsani, which was uncomparable to the camps.

Last, Transnistria (today), and Transnistria (WWII region) are quire different things. The second is about 20 times bigger in area. In fact most of the camps were located in and around such cities as Moghilev-Podolski, Bershad, also just west of that on the right bank of Southern Bug, down until about 100 km from sea shore. I don't know of ANY camp or ghetto on the portion that is TODAY the region Transnistria.

I am not going to change your edit, so if you think some reformulation is in place, please do it. Otherwise I will assume that you gave the issue a thought, and found that to be the best edit.

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One piece of additional info here: Jews from Romania were treted quite differently depending where they lived:

  • those from Bessarabia and northern Bukovina (those of them who did not flee in June-July 1941,i.e. about 100,000), as well as those from the districts of Suceava, Campulung, Radauti (the half of the district not occupied by the Soviets in 1940), and Dorohoi - sent to Transnistria (with exception of cases that someone protected someone personally, and exept the very exceptional case in Czernowitz, and that only after the first wave of persecutions was gone),
  • those from northern Transylvania, which was occupied in 1940-1944 by Hungary, were sent to Auschwitz (by Horty's regime)
  • around 95% those from the rest of Romania lived approximately like Dutch and Danes during the German occupation, but in their country which was not occupied by Germany, which means an apparent normal life but from time to time forced to do cheap work. For example: one day per month or one day per week to clean the streets, etc and formally receive payment - for 8 or 10 hours of work the equivalent of the price of a piece of bread (e.g. it would be like today 10-15 cents an hour). Also they had to keep a low profile, and obviously all political or administrative positions (even very low level) were totally bared for them.
  • around 5% of those from the rest of Romania (this includes Librescu's father, and as it seems Livrescu himself, who was sent as a boy whoever knows where and only God knows how he survived it his age) were either also deported to Transnistria - generally these people either happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or had powerful and avenging enemies - or were killed in a few events up to June-July 1940, which where the ones mostly mentioned in history books: the Iasi pogrom, the Legionary uprising, the two death trains, as well as smaller cases (that in records appeared almodst like domestic incidents) in the wake on 28 June 1940, when there was a huge rise in anti-Semitic sentiment.

This does not include the Jews from Transnisria (world war two region, including Odessa), whose of them who did not flee with the Soviets, because the territory not being formally annexed by Romania. Some say there were 50,000 of those, some say 100,000, maybe even more, only God knows. They were sent to camps 100-200 km north. Normally these are counted as Soviet Jews, but I am not sure. They survived in much bigger proportion than those from other occupied teritories, yet their livelihood was only better than death. Unlike in the German administered camps and ghettos, they were not even counted exactly, therefore noone has the exact numbers.

Wikipedia appears not to have good articles dealing with Jews from Romania during the Holocaust. Look for example at Bessarabian Jews - it's like someone wrote from his mind. If you have sources and time, this would be an interesting thing to tackle, if you are interested. I don't know any good reference for this, although I find it circumstancially again and again in many unrelated to the subject sources, and noone treats this thoroughly. :Dc76 00:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Liviu Librescu is good by me now. Of course, there are always stylistic arangements that people will do, but I can not identify any potential problem or issue with the content. Someone eventually will write books about Virginia Tech shooting and about him, and then those could be added as more sourses. But that's a job for the readers of those future books. It was nice meeting you there.
"Unfortunately this subject is not something I am an expert in. I'd like to learn more about this history someday." There is an article History of the Jews in Romania, which although not of the best quality is prity god, and quite informative. At least that would develope. Unfortunately it does not contain anything about the Jews in Bessarabia and northern Bukovina for the reasons of stupid political correctness. The article about Jews in Ukraine countains roughtly zero about those from Bukovina (which is sort of logical, since the commnity was in large gone by 1945 because of both holocaust and aliyah). And that of Bessarabia is a shame. I am just in the same situation as you (but from a different direction) - know only very little, but would like to know more some day. So, if you stumble upon it in whatever you'll be editting in the future, and give it a try, I'd will glad to join. :Dc76 13:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Ashkenazi Jews and Italian People photos

Stop deleting them, because i will put them again anyway. 1) There is nothing wrong about Einsteins toungue-photo, thats the man he was, a man is a humer, thats why i chose this photo! 2) No concensus? the privious photo didnt have concensus, no Da-Vinci, no Bruno. Here i really made a photo with the greatest Italians.

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Your not the boss

Stop removing the photos i created for Ashkenazi Jews and Italian people, because i will Just put them there again. I like them, everyone i showed them to liked them, so stop acting as if you are the boss. M.V.E.i. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by M.V.E.i. (talk • contribs) 11:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

Humus, feel free to block the above user whenever you'd like. :) Sicilianmandolin 11:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
He's a new user, let's hope for the better. ←Humus sapiens ну? 11:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Me being a new user still doesnt give you the right do act as if your the only user. I worked hard for that photo, and as i can see, i'm not the only one complaining on you playing the role of a dictator (A few messeges above i saw someone complaining on you editing someone elses talk page without permission). I'm not looking for "Editor-Wars" with anyone (If i would, i could just delete stuff you've created for Wikipedia), you are the one who started a war against me. I again tell you: 1. The Ashkenazi Jews photo i created is nice and only you are complaining on it (But for some reason you think that your own opinion is enough to to start an Editor-War).

2. The previous Italian people photo was not good. How can you have an Italian People photo without Bruno and Da-Vinci?! If your that-smurt create your-own Italian people photo that will feature Bruno and Da-Vinci. Its easy to play smurt and delete what other people work hard for, but it might be a chellenge to create somthing like what you've deleted. I'm trying to get a compromise with you, but you just ignore everything i say. 

                                                 M.V.E.i.

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to Antisemitism‎. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for test edits. Thank you. Liftarn 12:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


Current Status in the Palestine Article

On April 11, 2007, I added three paragraphs and a map to the Wikipedia article on Palestine. There was clearly a hole in the story. The Current Status subsection of the History section had ended in the mid 1960s, before the Six Day War of 1967. With carefully chosen words, I attempted a brief update.

The next day, you removed the struck-out words from my text, with the explanation "an attempt at NPOV."

In the Six Day War of June 1967, Israel captured and occupied the West Bank and Gaza, the two territories most commonly designated today as Palestine. Since then, both territories have been entirely inside borders controlled by Israel.
According to the CIA World Factbook, of the ten million people living between Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea, 49% are Palestinian. One million of those are citizens of Israel. The other four million are stateless residents of the West Bank and Gaza, and potential citizens of a future Palestinian state. In the meantime, they live under Palestinian National Authority jurisdiction, subject to conditions imposed by Israel.
In the West Bank, 360,000 Israeli settlers live in a hundred scattered settlements with connecting corridors that effectively confine the 2.5 million West Bank Palestinians onto four discrete blocks of land centered on Hebron, Ramallah, Nablus, and Jericho (see map). All four blocks are separated from neighboring Jordan by military control areas along the Jordan River and the Dead Sea.

I did not immediately object, because the text you removed was mostly a restatement of information contained in the map, which you did not remove. (I am pleased to see that, three weeks later, no further changes have been made to the text.) Then on April 16, DRosenbach removed the map with the statement, "‘Palestine' is a political term. It does not exist as a state, and this map, reflecting political propoganda, is both misleading and incorrect."

After an exchange on our user talk pages, see Palestine Map (exchange with DRosenbach), we have established that his only objection to the map was the word "Palestine" as the title. (On the same day, April 16, he also removed that word from two other parts of the article.) He stated on May 1, in our exchange, "Should the map be entitled ‘Palestine: a future look at what might constitute a Palestinian homeland' or something of this nature, I could have nothing to argue. If your point is to reinclude this map into the article, a title such as this would posit no declaration of official status yet allow you/the article to exhibit the occupied territories as a free and independent entity entirely divorced from Israel."

His suggested subtitle is clearly too many words for a map, but I note that some of the nuance he/she wanted was in the text you removed. Perhaps we could discuss restoring some of the text. Could you explain, in detail, your reasons for removing each of the phrases? Do you dispute the facts, the choice of words, etc.?

Thank you. HowardMorland 14:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Racism against Jews

I have reverted your deletion. Also, I have brought up what I feel is a conflict of interest on your part. Just thought I'd give you a head's up. VanTucky 21:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

For civility's sake, maybe we should both refrain from leaving personal talk message for each other for now. Or at least that is what I intend to do. It's really about the page/content for me, not you as a Wikipedian. VanTucky 22:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I neglected to note that personal religious affiliation is definitely not acceptable for COI. Please accept my apologies. VanTucky 23:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Ashkenazi Jews photo

A response to a few things you said: I couldnt find a women that is known enough to fit the photo. I will not put Golda Meir, because you, as an Israeli, like me by the way, should know that many Israelis hate her for the Yom Kipur war mistakes. When i made this photo, i didnt think man or womenn. I chose those Jews who are known by the whole world, so everybody will agree that those are the ones who represent Ashkenazi Jews. When i have puted this photo in Jews it was because those Jews are known to the whole world as the representers of the Jewish nation, and no one thinks Ashkenazi or Siphardic, but not having Siphardic people on it is a good reason not to put it in Jews. Do you have Einsteinphobia? anyway, if you have an offer for a better photo send me a link. I dont understand the licence stuff yet actualy, but ive figured, i've done this so... self-created? dont know, but i've checked and those photos are not copywrited, so it's probably what fits the most. 

                                                     M.V.E.i.

For the record

Regarding allegations made in the last couple of sections: I do not either affirm or deny my personal identity such as my religious or national affiliation(s). I think it is against the spirit of WP to focus on a person rather than on an argument. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Sami Al-Arian

Hi! I just responded to an old post of yours in the discussion page of the article about Sami Al-Arian. Please check it out. Jkej 14:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

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