User talk:Gyrobo/Archive 3

A misunderstanding and an apology

Hello, Gyrobo

I'm here to apologize for my misunderstanding and to notify you of an offer. You'll find details in WebP talk page. Cheers. Fleet Command (talk) 16:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Your edit warring in WebP

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on WebP. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

A case regarding to you is now open in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Fleet Command (talk) 08:06, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Your edit in Template:HTML editors is reverted per WP:BRD

Hello, Gyrobo

Fleet Command here, the guy who can keep cool head in discussions! (:LOL:) Here is the issue: Template:HTML editors does not list source highlighters as HTML editors. There are a lot of them, including Smultron, skEdit, TED Notepad, TextMate, TextPad, TextWrangler, TopStyle, NetBeans IDE, NoteTab, PSPad, etc. We don't have any of them in that template. We don't have Notepad++ there either! So, why Scintilla only?

Cheers, lucky.

I believe you are incorrect in your application of the BRD cycle. You have boldly made a change, I have reverted it. The onus is now on you to begin a discussion to achieve consensus for your change. Please see Template talk:HTML editors#Text HTML editors.
--Gyrobo (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

First thing first: We seem to have consensus.

Second: BRD is not really based on who did first; BOLD of BRD is about deviation from consensus or how dramatic the edit is. It is BRD (BOLD, revert, discuss) not ERD (Edit, revert, discuss). In the end, it really doesn't make any difference who notices who: Both must discuss and the one who reverted first won't necessarily get has any extra privilege in the discussion. (I thought your recent EW-case must have thought you that much; after all, you did revert my R of BRD in WebP and it was in effect for 4 days.) This is true about this case too: We seem to have consensus and when you are committing your change, mine is automatically undone.

But never mind all these: What I learned in Wikipedia is that there is no such thing as big bad evil [User:Flirt Comrade] or vice versa. We sometimes get sentimental; that's all. Then, we apologize, reach consensus and go ahead and accomplish big projects together; only some of us are too unforgiving to ourselves to realize that friendship is so free of charge in Wikipedia.

Fleet Command (talk) 17:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Our consensus was all of them not just Scintilla-based. "The bare minimum for something to be considered an HTML editor is syntax highlighting", remember? Since you didn't add them all, I took the liberty of doing so. You don't mind, do you? Fleet Command (talk) 07:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Your edit in Internet Explorer article

Hello again, Gyrobo

You have changed my invitation to talk notice in Internet Explorer article into a please do what I like notice. Will you be kind and reach a consensus first in talk page? Fleet Command (talk) 05:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Please see my response on Talk:Internet Explorer#Screenshot of Internet Explorer.
--Gyrobo (talk) 14:45, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I saw your reasons. I have a piece of advice: Don't talk unless you must! Because right now, per WP:SILENCE, everything is in your favor! Fleet Command (talk) 17:02, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

You edits to HTML5 was OK!

Moved to Talk:HTML5#Further reading section

October 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on HTML5. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Fleet Command (talk) 07:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Your edits in Internet Explorer 9

You seem to be violating your own words. You have established it that long lists may use ISO date style and that the article that predominantly uses one date format must keep using it. Well, you seem to have violated it again! The article is predominantly using MDY date format in prose. And the Further Reading section is not long list. (Four items only!) And you can't say Further Reading section is part of the References section. (Because there is a clear section heading that reads: "Further Reading"). Even if I grant you that Further Reading section has some resemblances to citations, I think you cannot deny that it is not a long list and that WP:MOSDATES only sanctions YMD for long lists "for conciseness". (After all, these are what you were depend upon it on Talk:WebP.)

Now please state your reason. Fleet Command (talk) 06:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

By the way, isn't it a strange coincidence that wherever I ago, you also come? Fleet Command (talk) 06:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Internet Explorer

Now, you changed all the dates in citations of Internet Explorer and you didn't state it in your edit summary.

Would you kindly explain yourself? Fleet Command (talk) 07:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

You placed a {{citation style}} tag on the article, so I moved all references which weren't referred to inline to the Further reading section, and, per WP:DATERET, set all dates in the references to a consistent format. That's why I thought you added that tag.
--Gyrobo (talk) 19:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, no; but your explanation is good enough for me to assume good faith in your edit.

But just for the record (and without any intention of criticism), as Macwhiz kindly mentioned, date style does not necessarily have anything to do with citation style. I put {{citation style}} tag because that article used both external linking and inline citations. I wanted someone familiar with the ins and outs of the article to convert those external linking references to inline citations. (If I wanted to convert them to Further Reading, I could do it myself.)

Still, please write better edit summaries.

Fleet Command (talk) 08:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Pine Bush ref

Here you go:

Feel free to ask for anything else, I am always in need of a distraction and a break from what I'm doing to keep my sanity. :) Camelbinky (talk) 22:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

THANK you!
--Gyrobo (talk) 22:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Sortable wikitables

Hello, Gyrobo

Just wanted to drop you a note: Any table of "wikitable sortable" class must have no merged cells. Do you know why? Because the sort functionality does not work in these tables. Such is the case with the table in Internet Explorer 9. Just click on the sorting gadget and see the messy result for yourself.

The solution is to either have no merged cells, i.e. split the merged cells and repeat their contents or remove the table from "sortable" class, i.e. replace 'class = "wikitable sortable"' with 'class = "wikitable"'.

Fleet Command (talk) 17:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

You're right, the table should not be sortable. All data within the table is already basically sorted (i.e., increasing dates correspond to increasing version numbers and Acid3 scores). On a side note, the Acid3 column already contained a combined row before I combined the date rows.
--Gyrobo (talk) 18:45, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Gyrobo. You have new messages at Mabdul's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Today I will update the LMB article with the ideas of the GA. I'm really sorry that the article was failed imediatly instead of set the article on hold... mabdul 15:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, the article is very well written and informative. I'm sure it will be a GA eventually.
--Gyrobo (talk) 15:33, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

What do you think? The arguments are really weak and I'm really pissed off that he failed the article immediately instead of setting it on hold. GAR? mabdul 13:04, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree. There were some issues, but they were minor and I don't think the article should have been immediately failed. Since you nominated it at WP:GAN, you should probably be the one to list it at WP:GAR.
--Gyrobo (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I will do tomorrow. Don't have time for that today. Malleus Fatuorum responded a few minutes ago. mhh, I'm really unhappy with his review. If you look in the article - talkpage history you will see that he removed the GA review without giving me (or somebody else) a possibility to respond directly to his concern. mabdul 16:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Although nobody else is answering in GAR process, I started a new project named tkWWW. Can you help me and have a short look at the talk page? thx mabdul 19:14, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

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I have now a few books from our library and will try the next week to expand and correct the Line Mode Browser again and retry to get it to GA. Maybe with these old books I am able to get the reviewers marcy... mabdul 18:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

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Mount Hope Estate GA review

Hi, Gyrobo, and thanks for your GA review of Mount Hope Estate. This is the first time I've felt like a GA review actually helped the article,—usually I feel like they leave articles worse than when they started—so I hope you'll continue to do GA reviews! Thanks, cmadler (talk) 11:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! It was my first review, and I look forward to doing others in the future.
--Gyrobo (talk) 15:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

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Dongan Charter's GA Review

I've had another look through and I like what you've done with this article. There's still one point outstanding though, the expansion of the lead to say something about the commemorative coin. Malleus Fatuorum 13:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. --Gyrobo (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Wolf Point, Chicago/GA2

I have responded to your concerns at Talk:Wolf Point, Chicago/GA2.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

FYI, you are suppose to add {{good article}} to the bottom of the article when you pass it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:24, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I was under the impression that the GA bot did that kind of thing.
--Gyrobo (talk) 18:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Naming convention for towns/villages/CDPs/etc.

Just found your comment on my talk regarding Poestenkill from Oct 29. The creek, Poesten Kill is in fact two words. I think the town should be the main page, not the CDP. Not sure what that discussion you were a part of decided. If our thoughts align, I believe it appropriate to make Poestenkill, New York a redirect to Poestenkill (town), New York and place this hatnote on the top of the town article:

{{About|the town|the census-designated place|Poestenkill (CDP), New York|the creek for which the town is named|Poesten Kill}}

This page is about the town. For the census-designated place, see Poestenkill (CDP), New York. For the creek for which the town is named, see Poesten Kill.

Just my 2¢. upstateNYer 21:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

That sounds pretty good. I was just using it as an example, but if it makes it better, I've inadvertently succeeded.
--Gyrobo (talk) 02:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Did Plattekill, though all you had to do was make it a redirect. See my talk for response about the other article you had inquired about. upstateNYer 23:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wallkill Valley Rail Trail

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Wallkill Valley Rail Trail

Nice article. I won't pass it now because of stiff wording in the lead. clear that up and I will pass it.--intelati^talk 01:12, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, the lead is referenced. Most of the info was repeated in the main body, so you can remove those references.--intelati^talk 01:16, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work, the lead is clear and sums up the whole article well... Passes the Criteria for the GA easily.--intelati^talk 01:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! As soon as the bot finishes, I'm going to go to the relevant WikiProjects and request an A-class review.
--Gyrobo (talk) 01:38, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

You JUST beat me to it. --intelati^talk 03:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Albany Pine Bush peer review

Thanks for the note - I have closed the PR per your request. I thought it was over all nicely done, and am glad my comments are helpful. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:08, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

They really were, and I intend to address all the points you raised. Thanks for your thorough review.
--Gyrobo (talk) 03:38, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

FAC

Just a note to say there's only one outstanding point at my FAC review now; I'm not sure if you agree with it, but once we resolve that one way or another I'll be glad to support. Mike Christie (talk) 02:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm on it! --Gyrobo (talk) 03:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Just saw the timestamp. I can't believe I missed your comment yesterday, sorry about that. --Gyrobo (talk) 03:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I've switched to support; it's a good article and I hope it gets promoted. By the way, I noticed something about the way you are indenting at the FAC and thought I'd mention it, in case you're not aware. To indent from a previous comment, the standard method is to repeat exactly the indentation used by the previous poster, and then add either a colon or an asterisk, depending on whether you want a bullet or not. I saw on a couple of occasions you added a colon to the front, which causes Wikipedia to assume you're starting a new indentation (which looks different). Apologies if you already knew this, but I thought it might be useful. Good luck with the FAC! Mike Christie (talk) 12:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I didn't know there was a specific order, and I'm glad you told me. --Gyrobo (talk) 15:54, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the recent contribution

Thanks, man. Keep up the good work. Fleet Command (talk) 16:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I mean, you're welcome! --Gyrobo (talk) 16:30, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Helderberg Escarpment

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--Gyrobo (talk) 15:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Interested in helping out?

Looks like you'll be getting an FA star real soon. When that's done, would you be interested in helping me with the rewrite of New York I'm working on? It's located at User:UpstateNYer/New York. I'm currently working on the history; the state symbols section is done; and the geology/geography section is near complete. Let me know what you think. upstateNYer 03:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I'll look into it as soon as I'm done with a GA in working on. --Gyrobo (talk) 04:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

GA Rosendale trestle

The article has been placed on hold pending your actions. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 04:50, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll work on those issues right away. --Gyrobo (talk) 04:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

We are very close. I have left my reply. Racepacket (talk) 06:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Rosendale trestle

Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

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La Stazione redirect

Deleted per CSD G6. Daniel Case (talk) 00:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! --Gyrobo (talk) 02:58, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Second opinion request

No, reducing the size of File:Jim Tedisco with Michael Steele.jpg would not help. The size was not the sole concern; if there is no text in the article about the contents of the photograph that cannot be clearly explained with text, then the use of the photograph would fail WP:NFCC #1 and #8. Jappalang (talk) 08:14, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for La Stazione

Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

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South Park (season 13)

Moved to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/South Park (season 13)/archive2