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Early posts[edit]

Hey GTB. Welcome and such to wikipedia - let me know if you've got any questions, and I'll try and point you at the right page. Have fun... :) -Martin


Well, let's see.... is this how I reply? Thanks for the welcome! I expect I'll have some fun here. GTBacchus 17:27 Jan 6, 2003 (UTC)


Looks like there's a bunch of us coming here since Gnomon's entry. See y'all around! Theanthrope 18:08 Jan 6, 2003 (UTC)


Yeah, it's different though, isn't it? It's much easier to get something written and linked up, but I'm sorry not to have PR, to find out what people think of what I've written. I wrote a squonks entry, based on what I'd learned from writing my h2g2 one, and I think it's in good Wikipedia style, but how can I tell for sure?

GTBacchus 04:32 Jan 7, 2003 (UTC)

One way you can find out is whether other people radically edit the entry :) Seriously, the policy pages should give a fairly comprehensive outline of the important guidelines. By far the most important is the neutral point of view policy. --Robert Merkel 04:58 Jan 7, 2003 (UTC)
looks good to me, but what do I know? But certainly "silence signifies consent" a good deal - whenever I've done stuff wrong I found out soon enough... :) -Martin

The Humungous Image Tagging Project[edit]

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Chic Young[edit]

It's funny how usage changes over the years. During the 1920s, for example, George Herman Ruth was called "Babe" Ruth in the press much of the time, to reinforce the fact that it was a nickname. Nowadays, conventional usage is either Babe Ruth or George Herman "Babe" Ruth or maybe George Herman ("Babe") Ruth, but not "Babe" Ruth. So also with Chic Young.  :) Wahkeenah 4 July 2005 20:48 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for your third opinion in Talk:Negative right. The dispute seems to have been resolved now, or it has at least died down. -- Mihnea Tudoreanu 09:14, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, you may be interested in voting on whether the article Yangôn should be moved to Yangon. --Angr/tɔk mi 21:09, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Discordian?[edit]

Thry the new [[Category:Discordian Wikipedians|yourusernamehere]] now with added existance.

Like, on my user page? Ok. GTBacchus 05:57, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Blockquote doesn’t take quotation marks?[edit]

What do you mean by this? porges 23:25, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I misread the ' ' as ", thought you were just changing the curly quotes to straight ones. porges 23:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]


capike[edit]

Hi, I see you left me a message but I do not understand it. Is there something else I am supposed to do for the Uniterran Church article?

Capike 23:29, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm not aware that I left you a message. I made some edits to the Uniterran Church article, but those weren't directed at anyone in particular. You can expect any contribution to Wikipedia to be edited repeatedly by anyone who comes along. If you add an article to your Watchlist, then you can keep track of those edits and correct any errors that may enter the article that way. Wikipedia's not like other websites though, where you post your work and it remains static. Your article will grow and change as more contributions are made; that's how Wikipedia works.
Welcome to Wikipedia - I'm happy to answer any questions you have about the site. GTBacchus 01:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the +cats. Strange that this article didn't already exist.

But I was wondering, do you think it really belongs in Category:Distribution, retailing, and wholesaling? Because it is already in the subcategory Category:Food retailing. Seems a bit redundant. Dforest 07:02, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You may be right about that. I just lifted the categories that I saw at Supermarket (where they're also a bit redundant) and at Whole Foods Market that seemed to match. I wouldn't object to pruning. And yes, it does seem odd that there was nothing on Health food store yet. Food retailing isn't really a well-developed area in Wikipedia yet, it seems. Compared with, say, Nintendo characters... GTBacchus 08:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stub sorting[edit]

Thank you! I should have thought of that category myself, somehow I didn't. Andrewa 19:02, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's amazing how much falls under "Culture". I predict subcategories there, eventually. GTBacchus 03:25, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the edit conflict notices I'm getting, it looks like we are both stubsorting on the same turf! So I'll leave you to it for the moment. I should be in bed, and I agree with your choices anyway... ;o) Scottkeir 03:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, pardon me! I guess I'm not the only one who stubsorts when I should be sleeping... See ya. GTBacchus 03:25, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

user pages & categories[edit]

regarding your recent User:ZlatkoMinev edit. Kudos for tidying up this one big mess. However please keep in mind that user pages and articles must not be intermixed via categories, wikilinks, etc. mikka (t) 07:33, 12 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

user pages & categories[edit]

regarding your recent User:ZlatkoMinev edit. Cheers for tidying up this one big mess. However please keep in mind that user pages and articles must not be intermixed via categories, wikilinks, etc. mikka (t) 07:33, 12 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Math markup[edit]

There is a way to force a TeX equation (math tag markup) to be rendered as a PNG (I think it involves backslashes and commas), but then we run into issues of server job load, bandwidth, etc. Though on the other hand, individual users can set preferences for how they want TeX markup to be displayed on their computers. PrimeFan 22:08, 12 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Your efforts in stub sorting are greatly appreciated here. Cheers! :-) --HappyCamper 01:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In case you missed my response on AfD John Larney[edit]

Comment - Someone (User:207.159.182.47) said above: "You all need to make pages describing your language here." If there's a group of people who've made more pages describing their language than Wikipedians, I'd like to see them! GTBacchus 17:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Comment. There are hundreds of them! They are called dictionaries. Almost every language has one. "Wikipedian" does not.207.159.182.47 21:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

For your great work at sorting stubs, I, Greg Asche, hereby award you this Barnstar of Diligence. -Greg Asche (talk) 20:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another barnstar[edit]

An Award
I give this Working Man's Barnstar to GTBacchus for his tireless work on stub and category sorting - BorgQueen 21:42, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stub expanded John D. Roth[edit]

GTBacchus, I've expanded the John D. Roth entry that you stub sorted. ERcheck 23:56, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the top tips[edit]

I'm new around here and I've already learnt a great deal from the tweaks you've made on my stub articles. Thanks very much! kingoftheshow 08:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional statement[edit]

I would like to mention to you that Conditional statement was discussing the conditional statement of computer science and that there is a see also to the separate article Conditional statement (logic). --TuukkaH 15:58, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Hi!

Thanks for correcting a stub for me. How I managed to miss 'religion-stub' as a command is beyond me. Note to self: must try harder. Thanks again!
Zoe.r 20:20, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Louis F. Budenz[edit]

Thanks for your help at Louis F. Budenz! --Dpr 23:05, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Happylobster says thanks![edit]

Thanks for the intro and correction for Extreme Ghostbusters. I didn't see an edit button on the top paragraph and only just figured out that you have to edit the page to make the correction. I appreciate the welcome. Thanks! --Happylobster 22:01, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Seattle Meetup[edit]

Somehow you've flown under my radar as a Portland-area Wikipedian. But now that I've found you, are you interested in Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle3? Looks like it will be in January. -- llywrch 16:33, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming the Meetup will be on a weekend: that's the day it's been the last two times. And that's a yes, I'm driving up -- unless my wife decides we should take the train. -- llywrch 17:23, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguating abbreviations[edit]

You contributed to the TFD discussion for {{2LCdisambig}}. I am following this with further discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#Abbreviations. Susvolans 18:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BWMA[edit]

Thank you for your help fixing the BWMA page. I "translated" it from the SCO.wikipedia and missed those errors...Sorry, but thank you. Chooserr

signature problems . . .[edit]

you might not have any idea, but since you fixed my signature on the lsd talk page, i'm going to ask- do you have any idea why my signature has begun to do that? it didn't used to, its the same as it always was in preferences, with the brackets and not code.

btw, I think you're the first real live discordian i've ever had the pleasure of interacting with. its some interesting stuff . . .

thanks for your time and any help you might provide

--Heah (talk) 00:26, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the welcome[edit]

I am staying with my daughter at this time and she has told me not to form a user name because she already has one and there should not be two on the same computer. I mistakenly messed up something once when she was signed in and now she is really careful so I have use it when she is signed out. Thank you again for the welcome....71.28.253.196 06:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry[edit]

Maybe I was a bit hasty when it came to the dating and did undo your wikifying. I'm sorry for that, but I honestly thought that I'd made the dating consistent. Can you show me the line that isn't consistent. Thank you, Chooserr

Also I would like to thank you for your help with the U.S. measurements. I was trying my best to make it accessible for everyone, and your edits were very helpful. Chooserr 00:22, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The war on Christmas is such a mess I gave up looking at it on a common basis. It seems to me that people are trying to be so PC and not offend eachother that they put everything in quotes. But one thing that should be added is that the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights is upset about the Whitehouse Holiday Card. The link, if you're interested, is the one in the Christmas Bracelets' frame...Chooserr 00:34, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't really refering to that, but the main body of the article is all in quotes...that's all. Chooserr

Classic Rock[edit]

Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most like classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 02:10, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cocaine: Eric Claption[edit]

I apologize for making the mistake. I was unaware Eric Claption's version was a remake. It is a good song, though :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.2.211.96 (talkcontribs)

Euripides[edit]

The Euripides page has spitefully been changed to this phony BCE/CE system. I will revert it. Chooserr 23:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

<sigh>
P.MacUidhir (t) (c) 02:42, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

3RR[edit]

I won't game 3RR, that's why I've withdrawn for now ;) I don't know what the proper way to go is. Perhaps I'm following my heart and my instincts a bit too much. Perhaps I just need to go to bed right now. What I know for sure is that they annoy the living daylights out of me ;) Aecis praatpaal 00:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It would probably be the same Village Pump daughter where WP:WSS/P is currently being discussed. But afaik, this issue has already been debated. I don't know if they are very keen on having this brought up again. Aecis praatpaal 00:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Date formats[edit]

My personal philosophy is to stay out of it, yes :). You're right that it is terribly trivial, but I think you could renew discussion if you wanted to. Start at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) and see what reactions you get. I'm sure that they're will be several people who will say "Always BC!" or "Always BCE!", and so forth, but that's why it is good to compromise. If you do get a dialouge going, however, let me know!--Sean|Black 00:59, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your POV question, you might want to read the discussion near the bottom of the page. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents Durova 02:39, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

From Akamad[edit]

You're welcome...yeah it certainly does feel good to get your userpage vandalised. :-) Akamad 06:29, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Eras[edit]

A busy gent, you are. Good work going on there. I just wanted to drop in here and let you know that despite the trivial nature of that topic, I appreciate your work in having it settled in the context of Wikipedia. I, like most interested parties, am too biased to do or say much which could be construed as neutral and fair. Your role is valuable. Again, thank you. → P.MacUidhir (t) (c) 02:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Your Wikithoughts[edit]

I've taken a look at your Wikithoughts as you asked. I'm afraid I don't really agree that Wikipedia isn't an encyclopedia, or that it won't be one. It is and always will be an encyclopedia; it will just be a very special kind of encyclopedia, one that must perhaps be approached on some subjects with more caution than a traditional peer-reviewed encyclopedia, but it's an encyclopedia nonetheless. As soon as it no longer fits the definition of an encyclopedia, it will no longer be Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia.

I've put up the first of my thoughts on my user page, by the way. You might want to take a look and comment or edit. —Simetrical (talk) 07:19, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support and oppose Wikipedia:Eras A3[edit]

Did you mean to vote support and oppose A3 on Wikipedia:Eras? -- Kjkolb 08:05, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Gibson[edit]

Thanks for moving my article. I was not sure how to name the article, but, of course, most people know him just as 'Bob Gibson.'

I do not know the categories of stubs. That's why I just used {{stub}}. Where do I find a list of them?

Thanks again for your help. JJ 12:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

More chronological news for you. :)[edit]

You might want to go weigh in on this, and this since the new project under discussion is sort of being mediated by you, at least informally. P.MacUidhir (t) (c) 00:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Participate in the discussion?[edit]

Brief examination of the talk page will reveal that I already did. The only way to get the Americanistic view of political correctness from quarreling with the rest of the world is to get a software upgrade. Radiant_>|< 01:37, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Alcaligenes eutrophus article[edit]

Thanks for the help on the Alcaligenes eutrophus article! I'm new to wikipedia and I wasn't really sure what I was doing. -Dave

BC[E][edit]

Thanks for the tug, see my comment here. dab () 10:57, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

International travels[edit]

Considering that I stole it myself, from someone who stole it from someone else, it would silly to object. You might want to credit the original burglary victim, though. --Calton | Talk 01:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You are now an administrator[edit]

Congrats! Your request for adminship passed with 41 supports to 1 oppose, which is equal to a 97.6% support to oppose ratio. As such, I have promoted you to administrator, which means you now have access to several neat administrative, cleanup and upkeep tools at your disposal.

As a new administrator, you should read relevant policies and pages linked to the administrators' reading list before you carry out tasks such as blocking users, deleting and protecting pages, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Remember that most of what you will be doing will be easily reverted by other admins, apart from page moves and image deletion. I personally suggest reading the administrators' how-to guide in order to learn some of the ropes. If you have any questions at all, please feel free to ask me for help. Welcome to adminship! Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 05:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Eras[edit]

Thank you for your comment on my talk page. I'll pop over in the next day or so. I'm just a bit busy on other things at the moment:) jguk 09:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oho? Is that so. I wasn't aware that War on Christmas was an accepted term/official name as opposed to say, ID. IF that is consensus however, I will bow to it. Respond quickly please--Tznkai 23:33, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, we have several articles on notable terms, see Xmas for a quick and relevant example. If this is accurate however, I can insert this sentance:

"Both groups have accepted the use of the term "War on Christmas", whether or not they accept that the war itself exists" Then the article can focus on the supposed campaign and the contraversy instead of the term.--Tznkai 23:38, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tried a fix, hopefully it will work. Gonna finish clean up and then release the article (hopefully)--Tznkai 23:49, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The word Alleged isn't unecyclopedic. It was its usage. "Alleged Specific". It sounds startlingly like an Oxymoron. Chooserr 23:43, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

agreed.--Tznkai 23:49, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, "alleged specific" is no good; true. What about "specific allegations", seeing as that's what they are, and some of them (i.e., Plano schools) are manifestly NOT instances of secularization, seeing as they never happened, although the allegation did? -GTBacchus(talk) 23:52, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Specific allegations is fine by me. Simple as that. I just couldn't figure how to put it. Chooserr 23:58, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Turtle Racing[edit]

Sorry for my premature removal of the afd tag. I didn't know exactly what to do. How would you alert an admin or who ever to close it in this or similar situations. Chooserr 07:04, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help on Turtle Racing. It would have been a sad day for wikipedia if that article was lost :(. Chooserr 07:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm only going to say this once THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PROFESSIONAL TURTLE RACING, it met the origional criteria for a speedy, yeilds less google hits than "hamster for president", utter nonsensical vandalism/hoax, but that doesn't matter--152.163.100.11 07:33, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stub[edit]

As you know, I am writting an article on the folksinger Bob Gibson. You added a template that the article is an American musician stub. When I finish the article, can I remove the stub template? When is an article no longer a stub? Who makes that determination? Thanks. JJ 00:02, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Chooserr's Block[edit]

I see that you're looking in to the latest Chooserr block, so I'll take the initiative and drop you a line. I think that Chooserr's block log makes for very interesting reading. Basically, since User:Chooserr has arrived, he has engaged in disruptive behavior nearly everywhere he has gone. Compared to that, I'd like you to consider the thousands upon thousands of people who manage to be constructive, frequently contributing editors and who manage not to run afoul of nearly every policy we have. He has had a huge number of second chances here, and he consistently manages to find a new boundary of civility and disruption to push. To top it off, after this block was in in place, he claimed to not understand how "I don't think you are practicing your religion correctly" (I paraphrase) is offensive. He is clearly trolling, and I urge you to seriously consider the message you will be sending if you reduce or lift this, his seventh block in a month.

Kind regards, Nandesuka 00:44, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, GTBacchus. This is a copy for you of a message I have just posted on Nandesuka's talk page:
I agree fully with GTBacchus, especially about the browbeating that Chooserr has received. I'm not keen on implementing punitive blocks, but I will point out that nobody seems to have thought it was necessary to block people who were following him around Wikipedia, calling him a "mindless troll", etc. I've already left a message on his talk page about this matter; you may have seen it.[1] I'm not going to try to overrule you, but I think you need to take into account the way he has been treated. He has been reverted with snide remarks when reverting wasn't at all necessary (and I admit it often is necessary). He has been sneered at, harassed, and followed round Wikipedia. I hope you will consider reducing this block. Cheers. AnnH (talk) 01:21, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the very thoughtful post you made on WP:AN/I. While I agree that Chooserr's remark was completely inappropriate, it's very nice to see another administrator trying to be fair, especially since you disagree with him about a lot. I can tell that post must have cost a fair bit of your time, too. If I weren't so busy I'd go hunting for a suitable barnstar, but I'm not very experienced in giving them. Maybe when I've finished my assignments! And by the way, I fully support the idea of reducing the block to four days. You may have noticed that he allowed me to remove from his user page the list of Wikipedians that he's watching. Sorry for spelling your name incorrectly above. I've corrected it. Cheers, AnnH (talk) 10:47, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding "my" semicolon box — absolutely. I'm sure you realize that nothing is "mine" on Wikipedia. In fact, I stole some of my boxes (and then modified them) from other users. Anyway, you're more than welcome to use it, or (in case I ever modify the colour to one you don't like) to create a User:GTBacchus/semi box and paste the whole source of User:Musical Linguist/semi into it. I envy you having a Latin box by the way. I hope to add one in the next few years, and to change my German 1 to German 2. AnnH (talk) 11:26, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]