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July 2012[edit]

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. I've given your recent contribution to Fourth Estate quite a trim, to conform to the WP:TOPIC policy. For example, "Mitt's petting zoo" could be considered for the Mitt Romney page, but it hasn't got anything to do with Fourth Estate. Be careful not to add your own analysis to the sources: I couldn't find anything about "media uproar" being the reason for Romney's statement, for example. Don't sign your mainspace contributions.

Whatever else, don't let grumpy editors get you down; stick with it! All the best.

--Old Moonraker (talk) 14:50, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


August 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would ask that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Talk:Son of BOSS. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Mr. Vernon (talk) 04:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, I will work on it. I strive for being objective and factual. Thanks for the feed back. It looks like the Son of BOSS article is full sail; deservedly so. I have always been a "sniffer" and listen closer to what people do not say or express. On the premises that people tell lies and keep the truth silent. The arm of the LDS is far reaching as a major genealogy repository. I am not seeing this connection covered in the world of business and industry - puzzling. An ax grinder? Me? Or a seeker of real life drama and intrigue. Not really taking a position on a favorite candidate for president, or political party and acceptable of all religious beliefs, I do not posses an axe to grind. A knowledge seeker is my self description. Wikipietime (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I gave you that warning because you accused another editor of working for Congress and being a "mole" of some sort. Take a look at this change you made; [1]; what does being a Mormon have anything to do with a tax shelter? It's unfounded and original research which is prohibited on Wikipedia. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 15:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to J. W. "Bill" Marriott, Jr.. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Mr. Vernon (talk) 15:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Is the page about my self off limits for pontificating? If other more experienced editors have not already corrected, I will try to rectify. A suppressive tone for aspiring contributors certainly would not benefit the Wikipedia. Wikipietime (talk) 17:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
You made that edit to a page on a public figure, not on your own page. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Anxiously awaiting Mr. Vernon or Frecklfoots treatment of changes to first section of the Son of BOSS article with an un referenced source and violation of Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. My "improprieties" were pounced upon. Wikipietime (talk) 15:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion[edit]

Hello, Wikipietime. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Please stop making test edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Rights Managed. It is considered vandalism, which, under Wikipedia policy, can lead to a loss of editing privileges. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Please use the talk page for questions, not the main article page. Thank you. Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

That was made to the main page in error, I intended to place into the talk. The article is most lacking and I am working on a project involving Right Management and would like to have a discussion on how the article could be improved. Any act of vandalism was totally unintentional and done in error. Wikipietime (talk) 05:02, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Understood, it wasn't the first time you've done it, just be careful. If I may ask, what kind of project are you working on? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:07, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I have been contracted to research DAM, Digital Asset Management/Rights, for an educational client. The space is changing most rapidly with advent of new technology, impression rates, etc., Clients are concerned of running afoul of their licensing terms for video and image assets. Wikipietime (talk) 05:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Neutral point of view[edit]

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Julian Castro. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely, I have corrected those wayward ways. Apologies for the trouble and thank you for correcting. Wikipietime (talk) 03:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Thurston Howell, III, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Mr. Vernon (talk) 23:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Respectfully, would you please explain to me how that process works. Twice, you removed my content without valid recourse. I did not place or detect anything personal in my paragraph. I am citing the fact. Should this not be being discussed for resolution on the noticeboard? I mean really a suppression of facts on a fictional character, Howell. Trivia buffs would relish this morsel. The latest revision does not even mention Mitt Romney. I am waiting for an answer as to whether the source is valid and recognizable. Please do not take it personal, I prefer facts, clarity, discussion and understanding. If you feel a threat is warranted, then execute on it or else explain the full facts of my faults.Wikipietime (talk) 00:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

You don't refer to other Wikipedia editors in an article like you did here. 72Dino (talk) 00:19, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Well, I had wondered about that but could not find a reference on this. I will not do again. I am looking down the road and see that ;

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So, being threatened to being blocked is a form of intimidation, to some. But, I am trying to avoid an adversarial relationship and remain in good faith pragmatic. Wikipietime (talk) 00:27, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you honestly believe that attacking another editor on an article page was "OK" because you couldn't find those pages? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 00:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


So, 72Dino did you look at the editing that was done to Thurston Howell, III by talk? Was that a problem? We have two issues going here. Wikipietime (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

The fictional capitalistic character, Howell, created by [[Sherwood Schwartz|Sherwood Schwartz]] has been mentioned several times on network American television as a satirical portrayal of the 2012 GOP candidate for president of the U.S; but apparently some editors of wikipedia feel that either this personified personality or the popular media sources cited for inclusion are not noteworthy.

Fact, and cited as so. Should you have not have only removed the violation?; but apparently some editors of wikipedia feel that either this personified personality or the popular media sources cited for inclusion are not noteworthy and left my contribution? I am feeling really discouraged as to what kind of ideological editors are wanted here.Wikipietime (talk) 00:51, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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November 2012[edit]

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Wikipietime (talk) 22:38, 23 November 2012 (UTC)== Mountain Pavilion ==

Hey Wikipietime,

I see you added a link to Mountain Pavilion, and also that you've had some trouble keeping from being deleted before. Let's see if we can improve the article; right now, much of it is written exactly like the source you've found which we try not to do. Can you find some more references? - Theornamentalist (talk) 11:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Appreciate it. I am trying to get the neurons wrapped around the "notability" concept. If a topic is old, rare, etc.,; very likely few citations and "notability". I was not sure this would even pass the muster. So, as in some of my other contributions; offered limited completeness. I will offers some enhancements to the Mountain Pavilion. It fascinates me for the time period and the representation of enticement of westward expansion..even Daniel Webster. --Wikipietime (talk) 15:05, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
I guess if I try to make it simple, it's that we can't really write about anything that wasn't written about before. Constituting what is "enough" writing about a subject can be a grey area, if you look over the behemoth WP:N it can help, but a basic guideline is that a subject be written about in more than passing in two independent publications. So, just focusing on Mountain Pavilion, if we could only find brief mentions of it then it would not meet notability criteria. Just because it existed doesn't mean it's notable. Luckily, I think Mountain Pavilion, with a bit of work will exceed the criteria fairly. I've found some sources and I can add some later. Let's work on rewriting it a bit.
For an example, I wrote about an inn in the same area some time ago; see Three Pigeons. Check out some of the organization, templates used. Let me know when to look back over it. - Theornamentalist (talk) 19:41, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Excellent and much appreciated, the 3 pigeons and all your excellent contributions. Thanks for the explanation. I suppose "staking out" what seems like a good candidate for inclusion to wiki should be balanced with the degree of completeness. For example, would you say that it is better to put Mountain Pavilion article out, even in a rough, limited form; or to wait and offer more thorough coverage? It seemed to me that it was better to initiate, collaborate, refine than hesitate. But, in so many of my contributions; the barrage of complaints seem to indicate otherwise. --Wikipietime (talk) 22:38, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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Eldorado Amusement Park[edit]

Looking at this article, I am wondering why you did not work this article up in your user space before publishing it as an article. It has numerous Manual of style issues, only one source is cited plus the entire article seems to be lifted from a work with possible copyright/attribution issues as seen here which has the following statement:

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http://www.usgwarchives.net/nj/njfiles.htm

Content creation is a great thing, but this particular content would have benefited from further work before being published into article-space. I would suggest that you post a help request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Amusement Parks or contact some of the active WikiProject Amusement Parks participants at Wikipedia:WikiProject Amusement Parks/Participants. --Shearonink (talk) 15:59, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

All good points, I can only plead that I am learning and my ignorance shows. My lack of utilizing an abundance of caution on guidelines will be focused on. --Wikipietime (talk) 19:45, 24 November 2012 (UTC):::From the copyright; Wikipedia is a non-non commercial entity, right? --Wikipietime (talk) 20:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

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Did you obtain written permission from the USGenWeb contributor to use the material? If not (besides the fact that content is word-for-word the same as the original), then it appears that your Eldorado Amusement Park article is in violation of the USGenWeb copyright notice. Shearonink (talk) 14:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

{{db-g7}} aka {{db-author}}[edit]

The above templates can be used to ask for the deletion a page you have created, when you are its only contributor. By blanking the page and adding the one of the above it will be removed from the article space. I would suggest doing so for the above article. While you may believe it is of interest to add subjects, and then see what happens, it is actually counterproductive to post new articles that are poorly constructed and referenced, adding unnecessarily to the workload. Therefore, I'd suggest:


Creating a User page[edit]

When creating a new page you are given the option to create a USER page: I would suggest using it so that you can better practice writing, structuring, and formatting references before launching new articles for publication. Type title in search box (upper right hand corner). You will be offered the following (example).

You can also start your new article at Special:Mypage/Eldorado (Weehawken). There, you can develop the article with less risk of deletion, ask other editors to help work on it, and move it into "article space" when it is ready.

You can the inform other editors of its existence and ask for help to build it. This editorial process can help to unsure the quality of published works and avoid cluttering the encyclopaedia with ingredients without a recipe. Djflem (talk) 09:45, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Surely, you jest that it should be deleted. It seems that the process worked fine on Mountain Pavilion and now it seems like a great article. With a little massaging, Eldorado will be there to. I have emailed for permission to include citation. I tell ya, if I was not such a bull, hard headed, fella; I would get discouraged. This Eldorado park is waaay superior in topic than many, many articles. Why is it not even included in Amusement Park? Did that creator bring it out of his user space prematurely? --Wikipietime (talk) 15:16, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Why is it not included in that particular article? I suppose because not every single amusement park ever built in the world is included in that article.
As to Djflem's suggestions - User space is a place where editors can work and collaborate on content that is not ready for publication into Wikipedia article space. I agree with Djflem, that at the very least this content should have been left in the creator's sandbox so it could be improved there while Wikipietime is waiting for permission to re-use the content. Technically, right now it looks to me like it could possibly be deleted just for the apparent copyright violation alone. --Shearonink (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
the Eldorado was the grandfather of Pleasure Parks, adjacent to a city of 300k people. I do not see how an article covering the history of could exists without mentioning, respectfully saying. The emergence of America's fascination with Egyptian culture was birthed at this locale, by my research. Ease up, please.--Wikipietime (talk) 16:23, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
My only concern is the quality of this encyclopedia, copyright violations are taken very seriously around the project. I stand by my comment about the possible violation - when I posted that it was entirely valid. I am casting no aspersions about the validity of the subject, I am only concerned with the quality of the content. So you are saying that there are reliable sources saying America's Egyptomania started at the Eldorado? If that is so, then you should include and cite them (I would have thought rather that the park was a symptom - not a cause - of 19th Century America's fascination with ancient Egypt's history/motifs). Shearonink (talk) 16:54, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree totally on the citation integrity and your efforts toward a quality, correct article. The Egyptomania, good one, is perhaps a theory, unfounded. The Egyptian Theater mania swept the country and had to have originated somewhere and the 1891 looks to be the earliest. The region was a destination of many immigrants and the likelihood that it originated there is not implausible. I recognize this is OR and thus only used a citation and a quote and not my opinion or research.--Wikipietime (talk) 17:09, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
I tell ya, if you "were not such a bull, hard headed, fella" you'd understand that coming up with things to write about is not the hard part. Anyone could easily rattle off tens of worthwhile topics, and create stubs all over the place. I don't think it adds to the quality or integrity of the encyclopaedia. What is being suggested/requested is that you try to develop the articles you'd like to see written before publishing them, not just dumping stuff that you expect other people to clean up, as happened at Mountain Pavilion and Eldorado. Please try to practice formatting, style, and referencing, By the way, Eldorado was much more of pleasure garden than an amusement park. Opened in 1898, the Palisades Amusement Park, a few miles upriver was much more so Djflem (talk) 19:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, some more development before publishing to main space would be great, just because it worked once doesn't mean it will work the second or third or fourth (or whatever) time.
There are a few other things that I have noticed in your edits... Why did you completely blank that pre-existing template, Template:WPPrivateEquity? And page moves were hard for me to master, maybe before you do any more, (as you did for Total Noise/Total Noise Society/User:Total Noise Society)) you should probably take a look at Wikipedia:Moving a page and Help:How to move a page. You can always ask for help in the Wikipedia Editing Help IRC Channel, post a request at the appropriate administrators' noticeboard or post a query on an active adminstrator's talk page. Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 20:23, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Appreciate all the helpful criticism, I will strive to better my impatience; something I have wrestled with for a long time. Thanks a bunch!--Wikipietime (talk) 01:42, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

The 2nd section of my talk page is for The Private Equity, I perform an edit on and it take me here, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPPrivateEquity&action=edit&section=T-1 a page not under my user, as expected, I blanked it.--Wikipietime (talk) 02:39, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

It look like the template that was put on my talk page was, and is not, the substituted one as this states; This template should always be substituted – use == [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Private Equity|Private Equity Task Force]] Invitation! ==

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If you decide to join the project, please add the following box to your userpage: {{User Private Equity Taskforce}}

I hope you join - there are exciting projects ahead!

Wikipietime (talk) 02:50, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

. Any comments?--Wikipietime (talk) 02:50, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

This is the problem! Users are welcomed to start working on any of the projects on this page or suggest a new project. Also feel free to invite new members by placing the following invitation on their talk page:

"== Private Equity Task Force Invitation! ==

" versus the substituted template. --Wikipietime (talk) 02:55, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Sourcing[edit]

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Is the citation adequate? I added back.--Wikipietime (talk) 17:42, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes I think that's good. If you ever have any questions, I'd be glad to help. Just leave a message on my talk page.--Astros4477 (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle[edit]

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Political Cesspool[edit]

Ready to dismiss the Wikipedia for anything political. The right wing, leaning, evangelicals are revising history and have compromised wikipedia's value - hanging by a thread of hope. Just look at the Ben Carson article and the fluffery underway. Yet, any negative contribution concerning Mitt Romeny, aka Thurston Howell, is ran in to the ditch. --Wikipietime (talk) 20:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

continue to watch in disbelief the tilt being imposed by biased editing. Wikipietime (talk) 03:10, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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I'm a little late, but nevertheless thank you for the Barnstar. ;-) Nemissimo (talk) 20:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bergen performing arts center[edit]

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Denton, Texas[edit]

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MfD nomination of Book:Africa for Retards[edit]

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Please delete, I can not figure out how. I wanted to create a privatebook for myself while learning how book creator works.--Wikipietime (talk) 15:17, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael Sexton (entrepreneur) (March 7)[edit]

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Thanks. The number of citation is growing rapidly and how access to Trump was accomplished will be an interesting effort. For me, the entire topic is intriguing because the selling of hype is an American tradition, especially fortunes through real estate and God, and this becoming an illegal activity seems threatening to a way of life. I will be entering other notable citations and appreciate the feedback. --Wikipietime (talk) 15:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


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Keep at it[edit]

Sorry to read you're feeling discouraged. Keep at it! I'm sure you have something positive to contribute to the site. Just be aware that if you really scorn the community's policies and guidelines, then you can expect to receive a lot of pushback. The better you understand how things work here, the more effective you'll be. You might want to see if you can get some of the recent Trump University-related content to stick at Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2016. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 23:43, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

When one looks at Trump University, as I did, to find out what is going on and see only several brief sections that supposedly covers three lawsuits; the feeling is that something is very wrong with what is going on with wikipedia. I am about to conclude that there are essentially those who "troll" to sanitize topics that for whatever reason, are dear and personal to them. Time for me to take another long vacation and breath. --Wikipietime (talk) 02:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Our Principles Pac[edit]

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Proposed deletion of China Oceanwide Holdings[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of China Oceanwide Holdings[edit]

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A tag has been placed on China Oceanwide Holdings requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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I contest the deletion and would like to retrieve the history of revisions for review and contesting what is a rash action. Can you are someone direct me to the revisions and deletion?--Wikipietime (talk) 23:56, 21 March 2016 (UTC)--Wikipietime (talk) 23:56, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016[edit]

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  • Eh, yes. Drmies (talk) 15:19, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
  • I mean, the stuff you put on that talk page is very, very unacceptable. Earlier you were warned by Liz about discretionary sanctions in the area of US politics; in addition, there's WP:NEWBLPBAN, authorizing admins to sanction users for unbecoming conduct in the BLP area. Given that you were warned, I could block or otherwise sanction you right now. Without putting too fine a point on it, I would like you to consider this a final warning. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:25, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


China Oceanwide Holdings[edit]

Looking at it and related articles, it does seem the firm is notable, though the very brief stub that you originally entered did seem qualify for speedy--but I should indeed have looked further. I see you now have some additional material in userspace. As you have a record of being a responsible editor in this field, makes substantial articles, I'm going to simplify things by restoring the originally deleted stub, and marking it as underconstruction.

I suggest you add immediately some financial data, so people don't question my restoration. In particular is it Lu Zhiqiang's principal company, or just one of his holdings? DGG ( talk ) 18:43, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring and giving it your attention. It shocks me to see total puff pieces that are extensively long and barely a mention of companies as China Oceanwide Holdings who are gobbling up real estate at a torrid pace. I do recognize and somewhat apologize for the brevity of this and other articles that I have created. Unfortunately, my time is rather limited or sporadic and my feeling is that this, as others, must be in wikipedia at any level of detail. In this case with Oceanwide, I expect it will grow substantially due to the Manhattan activity and existing as a undercontruction. --Wikipietime (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

note[edit]

I just made Ted Cruz extramarital affairs allegation. Your help in patrolling it would be appreciated. It's already survived a speedy deletion nom. BlueSalix (talk) 20:51, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Closed discussion with WV concerning Heidi Cruz talk pages[edit]

I wanted to add the following to the duscussion but it was closed; so here;

Did you, or do I have, the ability to perform a revision to the talk page that would result in ability to see revision concealed? If so, that is really some super power that I want to know about. Please, direct or inform me.

My contributions are to address the quality of the article and in this case, not the BLP but the manipulation of the media to either squash or promote a narrative. The accusation of "defamatory and potentially libelous" comments does cause me pause. "Scurrying" to research the forces that exist is a prudent exercise; in my opinion. This is a fast moving topic and there are a lot of bodies in orbit.

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oh well...--Wikipietime (talk) 17:14, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Regarding your first point, only administrators can delete revisions or see what was deleted (see WP:REVDEL). clpo13(talk) 18:42, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Sure is an interesting skirmish underway in the media. --Wikipietime (talk) 18:47, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Toner Prize for Excellence in Political Reporting[edit]

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Toner Prize for Excellence in Political Reporting for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Maharayamui (talk) 15:04, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Request for your input[edit]

Wikipietime, I'm attempting to add information to the Heidi Cruz article regarding an incident when she was suffering from depression. The addition has already been reverted once by User:MaverickLittle and I'm trying to avert a WP:EW. Would you please add your thoughts in the section titled, "Personal life: Depression" on the Talk page? I would appreciate your input. Thank you. Jtpaladin (talk) 23:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Sure, will look into it. But, imo there are super editor trolls who buzzard over her article and prevent any non promotional revisions. It has disgruntled me to the point of wanting to abandon wikipedia completely. But, that goes against my grain; so, trudge onward. --Wikipietime (talk) 20:57, 20 April 2016 (UTC)--Wikipietime (talk) 20:57, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jonathan Spitalny[edit]

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Nomination of Jonathan Spitalny for deletion[edit]

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Editorial skirmishing is fascinating. One may dislike, disapprove or devalue the presence and content of the article; but, the significance the individual has and continues to play is well documented. I strive to maintain a neutral position. If indeed, the article is deleted; I would hope thorough explanation and documentation be a part of the record for posterity sake.--Wikipietime (talk) 14:25, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: NewVistas Foundation (August 7)[edit]

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Your draft article, User:Wikipietime/NewVistas Foundation[edit]

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Well, let it go, sometimes you just stop caring. Especially in light of http://digital.vpr.net/post/central-vermont-towns-send-strong-message-opposition-new-vistas-plan#stream/0--Wikipietime (talk) 00:47, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Ezra Cohen-Watnick[edit]

If you want to make a new section related to his sharing of intelligence files to Nunes I certainly won't stop you, but the section on his time at the NSC is spare enough as it is. Really wish I could dig up some more information on his professional career :/ PvOberstein (talk) 16:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Editing concerns made by editor who warned me of being blocked[edit]

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I think if you are issuing threats, you owe the courtesy of citing a cause. Would you please explain why you have gotten so riled up?--Wikipietime (talk) 12:41, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I noticed an article you created, Scott Hatch, had been proposed for deletion, with several issues including an unreliable source. I am also particularly scrupulous about BLP violations against religious minorities (in this case a Mormon); for what it's worth, I'm not a unitarian. I take no stance about whether Hatch has mis-used his status as son of the 3rd in line to the Presidency for personal gain. Going to your talk page, I saw that you'd been warned at least a dozen times about poorly-cited and/or non-notable biographies, edit-warring, and many other basic editing issues, for a period of several years. It's okay to have a personal agenda, but you need to disclose all conflicts of interest, and most importantly, you need to work for the benefit of the charity for which we volunteer. Remember, Wikipedia is a project of a private charity - it is not a public soapbox in a London park - and can lose its 501(c)(3) status if it becomes too political. You can be forced out of Wikipedia if you violate its rules and violate your fiduciary duties. Yet nobody seems to ever have given in all fairness you a general warning (unless you erased it), which is necessary before a editor can be blocked or barred. Since I am no longer an admin, I can't block nor ban you, so it was not intended as a threat. I gave you just a warning. As a lawyer, teacher, and fiduciary, it is natural for me to warn others of problems they seem to be creating for themselves. "It is what it is." I'm just doing you a favor. I'd do the same for any client, beneficiary, or student. Bearian (talk) 00:51, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Seems that contributions made are irrelevant in your criticism. Looking at the entirety is paramount in critical opinions. You know, the bundle of sticks. One that comes to mind is the Anbang Insurance Group article created by me that was pushed for deletion. I do understand how some would not want certain articles to appear; but, Democracy dies in darkness.--Wikipietime (talk) 12:37, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Abandoned Drafts Wikiproject[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Kamil Ekim Alptekin[edit]

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Nomination of Kamil Ekim Alptekin for deletion[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Flynn Intel Group Inc[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Alan Futerfas[edit]

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I have declined this CSD nomination and given the tagger a warning not to do it again or they face a block. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Alan Futerfas[edit]

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Alan Futerfas for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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Deletion discussion about Alan Futerfas[edit]

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Thanks,

TheLongTone (talk) 15:12, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rob Goldstone[edit]

Hello Wikipietime,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Rob Goldstone for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

TheLongTone (talk) 15:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Rob Goldstone for deletion[edit]

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Michael Caputo admits to unusual nature of testimony Lineup[edit]

For the record;http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/wben.hosted.cx/hosting/media/wben/1641986/119864581.mp3

"He is a protégé of Roger J. Stone Jr., one of President Trump’s longest-serving advisers " from https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/us/politics/michael-caputo-house-committee-russia-trump.html

"He worked for the Reagan Administration with Oliver North injecting propaganda for Reagan in Central America and South America. " from article.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/conservatives-hope-larry-kudlow-will-take-on-schumer-in-ny

"Both Lakian and one of the team who launched the Draft Kudlow movement in the first place, Buffalo, NY insurance executive Michael Caputo, are veterans of the late Rep. Jack Kemp’s (R-NY) 1988 presidential campaign."

Speedy deletion nomination of Denis Katsyv[edit]

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Denis Katsyv for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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Arthistorian1977 (talk) 22:12, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Denis Katsyv for deletion[edit]

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KEEP. Citings keep appearing. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/russian-anti-sanctions-campaign-turned-to-california-congressman/534102/--Wikipietime (talk) 09:10, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Jeff King (consultant) for deletion[edit]

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You claim that there is a plethora of references to this person. Please post them as an addendum to your comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff King (consultant). I'll be happy to withdraw the nomination if he seems to pass WP:BIO but I couldn't find them as his name is very common.
BTW, do you have a connection to King? Toddst1 (talk) 14:10, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely no connection to King's, only an interest of how lineage in business and politics is alive and well. I am not alone in that either;


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3697348/GOP-congressman-accused-face-racism-said-black-subgroups-not-contributed-civilization.html

An "us" and "them" issue. I am all for inclusiveness of knowledge, especially for those who seek out the political spotlight.

Frankly, I was surprised that this son, Jeff, was not already included due to his impressive accomplishments.--Wikipietime (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/07/politics/jeff-king-cruz-super-pac/index.html--Wikipietime (talk) 14:38, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/12/10/ted-cruz-positioned-win-iowa-insiders-say/77086972/ stating "“I think my dad stole a line from me,” the congressman’s son, Jeff King, "

http://www.p2016.org/cruz/cruzsuperpacorg.html Consulting Jeff King

(reported by CNN's Theodore Schleifer on Aug. 8, 2015) Son of U.S. Rep. Steve King and has served as King's campaign manager.

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/16/ted_cruz_just_moved_a_step_closer_to_winning_iowa_far_right_rep_steve_king_gives_endorsement/ "Jeff King, the congressman’s son, helps run one of the four main super PACs supporting Cruz, funded by New York hedge-fund magnate Robert Mercer. And Cruz’s Iowa state director is a former King staffer, according to USA Today."

At best, all of those articles are passing mentions of the person. All of them taken together are nowhere near passing WP:BASIC. I believe that article will be properly deleted at AFD. Toddst1 (talk) 17:47, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Noted. Not sure "passing mention" would be substantive in an article or two; but maybe a balanced consensus of editors will weigh in. WP:Basic states " For people, the person who is the topic of a biographical article should be "worthy of notice"[1] or "note"[2] – that is, "remarkable"[2] or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded"[1] within Wikipedia as a written account of that person's life. "Notable" in the sense of being "famous" or "popular" – although not irrelevant – is secondary." and this article in the Sioux City Journal

is specifically about him and his role,  http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/a1/jeff-king-plays-big-role-in-his-father-s-campaigns/article_0337fbe5-fd7c-52af-b9e9-c9b11bd38c42.html

If you would like to make the claim that he is not worthy of notice, unremarkable, insignificant, etc., I respect that and disagree.

--Wikipietime (talk) 18:24, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

It's clear that he's the subject of that one article, but the key thing in WP:BASIC is "multiple." Toddst1 (talk) 00:33, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Baltic International Bank[edit]

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submitted for undelete 8/4/2017--Wikipietime (talk) 15:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

refs[edit]

https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/5033-latvia-baltic-international-bank-fined-1-2-million

https://www.citywealthmag.com/news/citywealth-profile-baltic-international-bank

John M. Dowd[edit]

Thank you for bringing up concerns about using quotes from the John M. Dowd in the talk page. I have been managing and adding information to the article for a month and half now and I'm glad more users are taking notice looking to contribute. I replied back in his talk page. Thank you. FunksBrother (talk) 02:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of DoThink Group[edit]

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A tag has been placed on DoThink Group requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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KEEP, Content being added!!! Do not delete.--Wikipietime (talk) 19:07, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

The page was deleted 8/3/2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Hut+8.5&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&subtype=

specifically; https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Hut+8.5&page=DoThink+Group&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&subtype=

posted to deleting editors talk page and requested it be moved to Draft.--Wikipietime (talk) 15:15, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Requested undeletion, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#DoThink_Group --Wikipietime (talk) 15:26, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

DoThink Group[edit]

I've moved it to Draft:DoThink Group for you to work on. You will ultimately need to show that the subject meets the notability guidelines for organisations to avoid deletion. Wikipedia doesn't allow articles on every company, only those that meet certain standards of significance. If you want to get feedback on whether your revised version is suitable then you can use the articles for creation process. Hut 8.5 19:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Katharine Gorka[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Katharine Gorka, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for Deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discusion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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August 2017,; Allegation that creation of Katharine Gorka violates policy[edit]

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I respectfully disagree that an article on this person is inappropriate. --Wikipietime (talk) 18:49, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katharine Gorka says we don't want an article on her. If you can't go along with this consensus, re-creating this article, you may be blocked from editing. Toddst1 (talk) 20:13, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Are you participating on the article talk page as well? Would like to make certain that all appropriate procedures are being followed. --Wikipietime (talk) 20:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

For my reference';

Katharine Fairfax (Cornell) Gorka is the wife of Sebastian Gorka and a former member of President Donald Trump's transition team.[1] Her parents, M Keen Cornell and Mortimer Ryon lived in Pennsylvania.[2] After graduating from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,[2] she earned a Master's Degree from the London School of Economics in the early 1990s before meeting Sebastian in Romania in 1994.[3] They married in Hungary's St. Michael's Roman Catholic Church in Sopron in 1996. At the time, she was the regional director of the National Forum Foundation.[2] In 2003, she and her husband founded the Institute for Transitional Democracy and International Security in Budapest, Hungary.[4][5] In 2009, she was the executive director of The Westminster Institute, a think tank that focused on threats from extremism and radical ideologies.[6] In March 2016, she became the foreign policy advisor to Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz.[5]

On November 29, 2016, President-elect Donald Trump chose Gorka to be part of his "landing team" tasked with meeting President Barack Obama's officials at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS),[7] an agency she had publically criticized in the past through articles on Breitbart News and other outlets.[8] During this period, she told DHS officials in charge of the Countering Violent Extremism Task Force (CVE) that it would likely be renamed "Countering Radical Islam" or "Countering Violent Jihad".[9] She became a policy advisor at DHS on April 7, 2017.[3][10] Because of Gorka's openness about her anti-Islam views, her role in the administration has been controversial.[1] Along with President Donald Trump aides, she worked to eliminate a CEV grant to Life After Hate, a group that opposes white supremacy. When the list of new CEV grant recipients was released June 23, 2017, Life After Hate was not included. This decision drew significant attention when a 20 year-old white supremacist attacked a group protesting the Unite the Right rally less than two months later, killing one.[1]

She is the author of Cornell Iron Works: The History of an Enduring Family Business and co-edited Fighting the Ideological War: Winning Strategies from Communism to Islamismwith Patrick Sookhdeo.[11][12]

References[edit]

^ Jump up to:a b c Schulberg, Jessica (August 15, 2017), "Controversial Trump Aide Katharine Gorka Helped End Funding For Group That Fights White Supremacy," Huffington Post. Retrieved August 15, 2017 ^ Jump up to:a b c (July 7, 1996), "WEDDINGS;Katharine Cornell, Sebestyen Gorka," The New York Times. Retrieved August 15, 2017 ^ Jump up to:a b Bender, Bryan and Crowley, Michael (February 13, 2017), "The husband-and-wife team driving Trump's national security policy," Politico. Retrieved August 15, 2017 Jump up^ "About ITDIS," ITDIS.org. Retrieved August 15, 2017 ^ Jump up to:a b Bayer, Lili (March 15, 2017), "How Sebastian Gorka Catapulted From Far-Right Obscurity In Hungary to the White House," The Forward. Retrieved August 15, 2017 Jump up^ "Katherine Cornell Gorka", Gatestone Institute. Retrieved August 15, 2017 Jump up^ Emmons, Alex and Fang, Lee (November 30, 2016), "Anti-Muslim Activist Katharine Gorka Named to Homeland Security Transition Team," The Intercept. Retrieved August 15, 2017 Jump up^ Bowden, John (May 23, 2017), "DHS hires Gorka's wife for top advisory role," The Hill. Retrieved August 15, 2017 Jump up^ Crowley, Michael (December 20, 2016), "Trump’s terror-fighting team yet to take shape," Politico. Retrieved August 15, 2017 Jump up^ Clifton, Eli (August 15, 2017), "Sebastian Gorka’s Long History of Denying the Right Wing Terrorism Threat," Lobe Log. Retrieved August 18, 2017 Jump up^ "Cornell Iron Works: The History of an Enduring Family Business". Jump up^ "My library My History Books on Google Play Fighting the Ideological War: Winning Strategies from Communism to Islamism".

Talk;

== Social Media[edit]

twitter https://twitter.com/search?q=Katharine+Gorka&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharine-gorka-1a595919/

Amazon Author Page https://www.amazon.com/Katharine-Cornell-Gorka/e/B01B8MMWOU/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

President

Council on Global SecurityDates EmployedApr 2014 – Present Employment Duration3 yrs 5 mosLocationWashington D.C. Metro Area

President of non-governmental association promoting democracy and free market reforms in the Middle East and Africa, supporting freedom for religious and ethnic minorities, and defeating radical ideologies.

--Wikipietime (talk) 16:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Marriage background[edit]

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/07/style/weddings-katharine-cornell-sebestyen-gorka.html

"...Mrs. Gorka is the regional director in Budapest of the National Forum Foundation(http://www.friends-partners.org/ccsi/usnisorg/ngo-devl/nff.htm), a private organization that administers a United States Government assistance program supporting democratization in Central and Eastern Europe. She was a senior fellow at the World Policy Institute in New York. She graduated from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and received a master's degree in international political economy from the London School of Economics. Her father is the president of Cornell Iron Works in Mountaintop. Mr. Gorka is a senior reader at the Institute of Strategic and Defense Studies in Budapest. He graduated from Heythrop College at the University of London and is a candidate for a master's degree in diplomacy and international relations at the Budapest University of Economic Sciences. His parents are architects in Sopron."

Was he a citizen prior to marriage? For inclusion into article.--Wikipietime (talk) 16:58, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

National Forum Foundation https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.friends-partners.org/ccsi/elctrnic//*

This article refers to his entering into the US as an immigrant...be careful visiting the site, lots of popups, shields up! http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.777720

--Wikipietime (talk) 17:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Contested deletion[edit]

This page should not be speedily deleted because... while it was previously deleted, the reasons no longer seem valid. At the time, it was because the coverage was too closely related to her husband and because it appeared to have been created by her husband. Neither applies to this version. Additional sources focusing on her have been created since the deletion discussion. --Argento Surfer (talk) 17:48, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't see any sources in this version that weren't in the deleted one. Clear G4. --Randykitty (talk) 18:00, 15 August 2017 (UTC) Did you look close? Because the first and last sources are from today. Argento Surfer (talk) 18:08, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Contested deletion not warranted[edit]

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (there are many cited sources that specifically focus on her role) --Wikipietime (talk) 18:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

This article was deleted as a result of a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katharine Gorka. Unless there have been significant new events in the subject's life in the past month which woyuld address the notability concerns, the article should not have been recreated. ValarianB (talk) 18:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC) As I mentioned directly above this section, the previous deletion consensus centered on 1) a COI on the part of the article creator and 2) a lack of coverage of her specifically. Neither is true this time. Argento Surfer (talk) 18:36, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Borderline censorship?[edit]

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@Toddst1:, did you read the deletion discussion? Did you review the current article? 1/3 of its sources are dated after the deletion discussion. The deletion consensus was based on two points: 1) the COI of the creator and 2) the article's strong slant toward her husband. Neither are true this time. Argento Surfer (talk) 18:58, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Author; Description from Amazon author page[edit]

From the page; "She co-edited the volume Fighting the Ideological War: Winning Strategies from Communism to Islamism and appears frequently in the media, including FOX News, Breitbart, EWTN, CBN, and al-Hura. Most recently she co-authored the report ISIS: The Domestic Threat."

there obviously more facts to be included in the BLP--Wikipietime (talk) 19:02, 15 August 2017 (UTC) ==

Speedy deletion nomination of American Swiss Foundation[edit]

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August 2017[edit]

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Taking Sides[edit]

"We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented" -Wiesel

An amusing feature of wikipedia is what I will label, the EGOW's, the editor gangs of wikipedia.. A no brainer that just a few editors can collaborate to control. After researching background edits of numerous editors for years, a bias of interest emerges and currents detected for future activities. Loving it. --Wikipietime (talk) 14:11, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Your recent editing [2] [3] and specifically this comment above, [4] smack of WP:BATTLE and personal attacks. May I suggest you take a break and cool off? Toddst1 (talk) 15:23, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

By all means, suggestions are always welcome! I only have an issue with dictates. Remaining dumbfounded of resistance to Ms. Gorka blp. Calling it a bias. She has sought publicity as an author and worldwide political, religious, cultural engagements. If it fails, the article resurrection, at least I will know that the battle was fought and who owns it.--Wikipietime (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Fellow editor's HELPFUL suggestion from Toddst1  ; Talk page guidelines[edit]

deleting guidelines

Would you please read the Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines and start threading and signing your posts? Additionally, could you stop dumping unformatted links all over talk pages? Some of us are getting tired of cleaning up after you. Toddst1 (talk) 19:47, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Right. Always try to sign. I suppose the Westminister topic added to Gorka page with this link; http://www.westminster-institute.org/videos/

is an example of what you are referring too? I will study up and present according to guidelines. Since you brought it up what is getting tiring; I will say I might be getting tired of pushing so hard to add articles. Look up my talk page. Some misfires, for sure. But some fine sticks as well. You know in life, there are those who charge through creating and those that nod in disgust and fuss from the mess. Reflecting on matter at hand, the wasted time and effort is nutty in a hmmm sort of way. She belongs in wikipedia(period)--Wikipietime (talk) 20:12, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Maybe beside cleaning up my talk page syntax, articles like this could be looked at;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Foreign_Policy_Council

my goodness, get there from the Gorka's, to Westminster Institute and sorely in need of a scrub.--Wikipietime (talk) 20:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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National Diversity Coalition for Trump[edit]

Call for fellow wikipedians to contribute before the Speedy Deletion Patrol tickets!

Surprising that National Diversity Coalition for Trump did not exist.--Wikipietime (talk) 13:36, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

DELETED 04:29, 18 August 2017 Alex Shih (talk | contribs) deleted page National Diversity Coalition for Trump (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

Request unDelete;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#National_Diversity_Coalition_for_Trump

--Wikipietime (talk) 12:47, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

left comment on deleting ediors page; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alex_Shih "explanation for deletion of National Diversity Coalition for Trump . it was not an advertisement, by far. You should engage in some discussion first.

Please move to my sandbox or drafts.

There are many, many sources that refer to this group.

--Wikipietime (talk) 12:42, 18 August 2017 (UTC)"Italic text

--Wikipietime (talk) 12:50, 18 August 2017 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents --Wikipietime (talk) 12:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion[edit]

WPT, I think you have a misconception about speedy deletion. You've badgered a number of editors including Alex Shih ‎ saying they should have engaged in discussion before speedily deleting an article. That's not how it works. Speedy deletion is designed to be just that - speedy - for articles that are so bad that they need no discussion. You should keep that in mind going forward.

As you know, I've had some issues with several articles you've created. I believe you honestly want to create decent articles here but you just seem challenged in doing so and many of the articles you have created just don't meet our standards - which I see is leaving you understandably frustrated. May I suggest that going forward, instead of creating articles directly, you use the WP:AFC process so that you can get some coaching and your articles will stand a better chance of surviving?

Note that I've appealed to Alex on your behalf regarding restoring National Diversity Coalition for Trump. Toddst1 (talk) 14:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Toddst1! The article has been undeleted and moved to the user sandbox. Regards, Alex ShihTalk 14:47, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Bravo! Sure seems that a suppression on an ideological bias and basis is at play on wikipedia. Glaringly predicatable as demonstrated over the last week of my activities. Suppression of Katharine Gorka article and delegating to Sebastian Gorka is eerily similar to what is emerging with National Diversity Coalition for Trump and Michael D. Cohen (lawyer). I will expand the topic, NDCT on Cohen's page and then the removal for the reason that his page is not about NDCT. Everyone, including myself, need to own up to their actions. If I have crossed a boundary; sanction, censure or restrict me - but accusations of "soapboxing" is bullying and only inspires me in a respectful way to proceed. --Wikipietime(talk) 14:52, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

So what you're saying is that you're going to keep on doing the same disruptive things unless someone blocks you or you get a topic ban. Toddst1 (talk) 15:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Clarification;I am not doing things to be disruptive. I am making needed contributions that some subjectively and erroneously interpret as disruptive. Please excuse lack of formatting expertise, I am acting on your suggestion to improve threading,. --Wikipietime (talk) 15:11, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

So, probably will keep doing what I have been doing; filling glaring knowledge, reference holes. The National Diversity Coalition for Trump was just deleted, not marked for speedy deletion as I had requested to be done on the articles talk page. --Wikipietime (talk) 15:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017 Dust up over defense of National Diversity Coalition for Trump creation and deletion[edit]

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors, which you did not do on User talk:Alex Shih. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. Toddst1 (talk) 14:59, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Did you look at the article? A solid source(NBC) and fertile for the entire community additions. Please do not think for a moment that I am not here for any other reason other than to improve likewise. I have heard of the National Diversity Coalition for Trump for over a year and when I tried to find out more on Wikipedia there was no article, defend that. So, I fixed it. For an uniformed individual of US political news coverage(mainstream) to mistake as an advertisement is not my fault. Absolutely nothing personal. --Wikipietime (talk) 15:06, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I did. I think that getting it restored to your user space to get it in better shape is a good idea and I think you may be able to create a decent article that could survive in article-space. I think you owe Alex an apology. Toddst1 (talk) 15:09, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Appreciate you effort. No doubt it is worthy of an article in my mind. What is wrong with it now other than brevity?--Wikipietime (talk) 15:15, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: National Diversity Coalition for Trump has been accepted[edit]

National Diversity Coalition for Trump, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Notice of discretionary sanctions[edit]

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Using Talk pages[edit]

Please review WP:TPG

  1. Do not EVER edit another editor's post.
  2. Please indent your own posts, and sign them. You indent by typing a colon ":" in front of the comment; you sign by typing four tildas after the comment. The wikipedia software converts the colon into an indent, and the four tildas into a time stamp and links to your user page and talk page.

Please mind these things. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 22:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

@Jytdog: If I have ever edited another editors, it was unintentional. Thanks for the tips. I am trying to learn but keep getting distracted by the amount of content that needs creating to fulfill the wikipedia mission. I will devote more time to the proper syntax, --Wikipietime (talk) 22
29, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

One more suggestion[edit]

At the risk of coaching overload, may I suggest you start archiving your talk page? Conversations from 2012 aren't particularly relevant to any current issues. Toddst1 (talk) 04:40, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Michael Tyler DNC spokesman[edit]

THIS SECTION IS MY WORKSPACE AND NOTES....for creating and clearing up..

Need to edit title for disambiguation of; and edit, delete or recreate Michael Tyler(spokesman DNC) , erroneously failed to use space between...


"Michael Tyler(spokesman DNC)" was named, April 2017, as the spokesman for the Democratic National Committee under the leadership of Tom Perez. Tyler had previously served as communication director of Russ Fiengold.[1] Upon Steve Bannon's departure, Tyler stated ": "one less white supremacist in the White House". [2]

--Wikipietime (talk) 12:42, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

changing titles; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_name

deleting pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_delete_a_page

Michael Taylor (DNC spokesman)
Political partyDemocrat



Michael Tyler was named, April 2017, as the spokesman (non-gender specific Spokesperson), for the Democratic National Committee under the leadership of Tom Perez. Tyler previously served as the communications director of Russ Fiengold.[3] In August 2017 and after Steve Bannon's departure from the Donald J. Trump's administration, Tyler stated that is "one less white supremacist in the White House". [4] After the accusation that the DNC's data was flawed and contributed to the defeat of Clinton in the 2016 presidential race; Tyler conveyed that the party was in the process of overhauling its data and technological operations.[5]

As of August 2017, his counterpart spokesperson at the Republican National Committee is Kayleigh McEnany.[6]

References[edit]

Your contributed article, Michael Tyler(disambiguation)[edit]

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Vladislav Baumgertner[edit]

Vladislav Baumgertner,

Born: January 21, 1972 (age 45), Yekaterinburg, Russia

Spouse: Inna Baumgertner


The battery plant is the most prominent physical manifestation of the companies that just filed for bankruptcy, Alevo USA Inc. and Alevo Manufacturing Inc. — U.S. arms of Alevo, which is based in Switzerland and is part of the Rybolovlev empire. The oligarch’s far-flung holdings include the storied Monaco soccer club, a Greek island, pricey New York real estate and Trump’s former West Palm Beach mansion.

[7]

Born: January 21, 1972 (age 45), Yekaterinburg, Russia

Spouse: Inna Baumgertner

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article141308758.html

  1. ^ DEBENEDETTI, Gabriel. "DNC rebuilds communication office".
  2. ^ LE MIERE, Jason. "STEVE BANNON'S EXIT WON'T MAKE TRUMP'S WHITE HOUSE ANY LESS RACIST".
  3. ^ DEBENEDETTI, Gabriel. "DNC rebuilds communication office".
  4. ^ LE MIERE, Jason. "STEVE BANNON'S EXIT WON'T MAKE TRUMP'S WHITE HOUSE ANY LESS RACIST".
  5. ^ Bradner, Eric. "Democrats to Clinton: The DNC's data was fine -- you just used it wrong".
  6. ^ Moore, Mark. "Kayleigh McEnany named RNC spokeswoman".
  7. ^ Hall, Kevin. "Trump-linked oligarch's company goes bust as intrigue grows".
Wouldn't this be better placed in your User:Wikipietime /sandbox instead of cluttering up your talk page? Toddst1 (talk) 14:25, 22 August 2017 (UTC):::: Probably, but why Alevo and some of the characters surrounding thia are not in wikipedia is a greater priority for now... it is not readily apparent on how to create, edit, move sandbox items to articles...the directions are really lacking...and on cleaning up my talk page, the only visitors are those wondering what and the heck i am up to, so the bread crumbs might be useful. for me, i like to review all the articles that were marked for deletion and now are solid. inspiring. back to, alevo, all the news, https://www.google.com/search?q=alevo+manufacturing&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjO_6epievVAhXM7SYKHd3ABr0Q_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=589, and nothing in wiki.... creates a sense of urgency for fulfillment.... yet my impression is the war against inclusionist is being lost.... more time is spent over chopping content out, as in Gorka's wifey, that if the enrgy was spent to correct the syntax and article; we would all be better off. appreciate your suggestions and will move towards! --Wikipietime (talk) 14:45, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

of note; http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article151646847.html

Russian Oligarch Rybolovlev Saved Trump Financially. Courier of the Tsar Putin to President Trump?

https://new.euro-med.dk/20170314-russian-oligarch-rybolovlev-saved-trump-financially-courier-of-the-tsar-putin-to-president-trump.php

Dmitry Rybolovlev and Ekaterina Rybolovleva

--Wikipietime (talk) 14:48, 22 August 2017 (UTC)



M-Kate[edit]

M-Kate Oligarch Flights


The oligarch has a private Airbus A319 whose registration M-KATE allows it to be tracked online. M-KATE is normally based in Moscow or Switzerland, but made numerous flights all over the US from August 2016 through November 2016, the peak season for last year’s presidential campaign – right at the moment when American intelligence agencies believe Moscow was supposedly hijacking the election on Trump’s behalf (No proof). According to flight logs from respected plane logging sites FlightRadar24 and PlaneFinder, as well as photos of planes on the ground during the campaign, M-KATE showed up at the very same cities, and the very same (otherwise unremarkable) airports where Trump happened to be – Charlotte, North Carolina, Concord, North Carolina, Las Vegas and Miami.

Indeed, early last month – on Friday, February 10 – M-KATE flew from Switzerland to Miami, where the President was due to party with hedge fund mogul Stephen Schwarzman. Why would Rybolovlev’s plane scurry back and forth from Moscow to odd destinations such as Charlotte and Concord, or to Las Vegas, New York and Miami, precisely when Trump and his team were in the neighbourhood? Was Rybolovlev some sort of Putin emissary, a go-between for Trump and Moscow? The flights remain a genuine enigma; there are no eyewitness reports that the two men actually met or indeed of who was on the plane. It is not unknown for jets to be chartered out. A White House spokesman denied contact between the two men.’ Rybolovlev’s New York spokesman Brian Cattell denied the widespread speculation about the Russian oligarch’s Florida property dealings. Mr Rybolovlev has never met Donald Trump.’ The president´s son Donald Trump Jr told a Manhattan real estate conference in 2008: ‘Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.’

https://new.euro-med.dk/20170314-russian-oligarch-rybolovlev-saved-trump-financially-courier-of-the-tsar-putin-to-president-trump.php

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MKATE

http://www.private-jet-fan.com/russian_jet_owners.html

https://www.planespotters.net/ https://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/search.php?tag=m-kate&source=sitesearch

WikiProject Investment[edit]

Hey there! I just re-launched the WikiProject Investment.

The site has been fully revamped and updated and I would like to invite you the project.

Feel free to check out the project and ping me if you have any questions.


I'd like to invite you to join the Investment WikiProject. There are a lot of Investment related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help get this project off the ground and a few Investment pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks!


Cheers! WikiEditCrunch (talk) 00:23, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:talkref[edit]

Hi, Wikipietime. I added {{talkref}} (full name {{Reflist-talk}}) to your comment Talk:Namaste#Namaste in school controversy. In articles, references quite properly all go at the foot of the page, but on talk pages they are best kept with the comments they belong to, rather than being perhaps a long, long scroll away and mixed with references to other comments. This is a useful little template that does just that. I recommend it to you.

In writing this comment, I noticed your section #Michael Tyler DNC spokesman and the following ones, with your text note "THIS SECTION IS MY WORKSPACE AND NOTES....for creating and clearing up.." at the top. This creates some confusion, as the "New Section" tab at the top of the page places the new section at the foot of the page, so it's in chronological order. Here, though, that and another of your drafts, #Vladislav Baumgertner, along with References and two sections by other users, #WikiProject Investment and #Your contributed article, Michael Tyler(disambiguation). This is confusing.

I was going to urge you to use your sandbox, User talk:Wikipietime/sandbox, as a draft space, but I see that Toddst1 has already done so, and your answer. Have you read Help:My sandbox? There is also Help:Userspace draft. Once you have prepared an article in either space, you (or an autoconfirmed user, if you aren't already one) can Move it into main space. See also WP:Drafts, especially its sections Preparing drafts and Publishing a draft.

Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

+1. Toddst1 (talk) 21:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017[edit]

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