Template:Did you know nominations/Strom Thurmond filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1957
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:40, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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Strom Thurmond filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1957
- ... that U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond ate bits of pumpernickel bread and hamburger while filibustering for 24 hours? Source: "...munching diced pumpernickel and bits of cooked hamburger." [1]
- ALT1:... that U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond's aides set up a bucket for Thurmond to relieve himself during his 24-hour filibuster? Source: "...Aides tried to avoid defeat by the toilet by setting up a bucket in the cloakroom where Thurmond could pee..." [2]
Created by AviationFreak (talk). Self-nominated at 05:11, 30 August 2020 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. I am a little uneasy about how #3 is used - it's essentially a primary source but the first sentence sourced to it looks interpretative. #4 - is that a printout of Thurmond's speech? Regarding #5, it mentions orange juice as well. No copyvio, POV or plagiarism that I can see. First hook makes me wonder what a filibuster is (I know what it is but does everyone else) and why the juice bit is not mentioned. ALT1 is supported in article, by sources and more interesting. Image seems OK to me. No QPQ needed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Added another reference to the background section and reworded it to hopefully remove interpretative-ness. #4 is the senate record of the speech, as linked from the senate's website (link is on ref #1's page). I didn't feel that the orange juice was quite as novel as pumpernickel and hamburger, and I agree that ALT1 is a bit more interesting. AviationFreak💬 15:29, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- The problem I see with #4 (now #6) is that it's a primary source being used for an interpretative claim. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:59, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Right - Removed the record as a ref entirely and supported the info with two secondary sources (#s 6 and 7 currently). AviationFreak💬 16:48, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
That works. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:06, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I came by to promote ALT0, and did some editing on the article to align it with the sources. There is one paragraph that lacks any cite, per Rule D2. Yoninah (talk) 16:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Cited. AviationFreak💬 17:28, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Right - Removed the record as a ref entirely and supported the info with two secondary sources (#s 6 and 7 currently). AviationFreak💬 16:48, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- The problem I see with #4 (now #6) is that it's a primary source being used for an interpretative claim. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:59, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Added another reference to the background section and reworded it to hopefully remove interpretative-ness. #4 is the senate record of the speech, as linked from the senate's website (link is on ref #1's page). I didn't feel that the orange juice was quite as novel as pumpernickel and hamburger, and I agree that ALT1 is a bit more interesting. AviationFreak💬 15:29, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
