Talk:Wolfred Nelson

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Republican[edit]

It's important when writing bios that one has all the correct information about the subject of the article and does not, from loose historical data, ascribe labels that may not actually apply. In this case, there's no definitive evidence that Nelson was a republican, only that he participated in a rebellion against oligarchical colonial rule, and which is always described as a fight for responsible government, not for a republic. Making a false declaration of independence for a colony also does not necessarily equate with republicanism. We need a more sound source that states Nelson held republican views before calling him a republican. --G2bambino (talk) 17:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's no doubt now. But I suspect you knew that. Saying Nelson or any of the leading Upper or Lower Canada Patriots weren't republicans is a little like saying Prince Charles isn't a monarchist. Personally, if you like making a nuisance of yourself, Wikipedia isn't the place to do it. - MC Rufus (talk) 21:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest you both go to Mediation, concerning the articles you've both been jousting over. GoodDay (talk) 21:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, something has to be done. I'm offering balance and referenced information and G2 is doing nothing but making damn sure I have to jump through 10 hoops to do it. Even for something as obvious as this situation. Only the most indoctrinated monarchist (or the completely ignorant) could say the leaders of the 1837 Rebellion were anything but republican. Well, I've got lots of time. I hope he does. Bring on more hoops! “Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.” ~ Albert Einstein - MC Rufus (talk) 22:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When your edit is challenged, you need to provide the evidence to back it up, not the other way around. If you have reliable sources that distinctly say Nelson was a republican, then go ahead and provide them and he can be included in the category. But, until then, everything else is just your speculation and interpretation. --G2bambino (talk) 20:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see now you've added some more republican related info to the article. This asserts a stonger case that he was a republican, but is still just a collection of sources that support an original research position. --G2bambino (talk) 21:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just try and work things out on the discussion pages, before editing. There's not much point in either of you making an edit, only to have the other revert it. GoodDay (talk) 22:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite sure who decided to throw everyone off the topic with a poorly linked "Saint-Denis, France" over the actual "Saint-Denis-sur-Richelieu" in Montreal, but please do your research correctly, and please do not just link things they do not know to be truth - I fixed it to the correct place; I don't think these men travelled from Montreal to France in about two weeks to the 4th of December, when they "joined Nelson", as Nelson had property in Saint-Denis-sur-Richelieu AND was engaged in fighting IN the Battle of Saint-Denis in Montreal in late November of that same year - when he would apparently be in France in less than 10 days? It was massively confusing.Ry-Mowar (talk) 23:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quebec people of Irish descent?[edit]

Why is he on this list? Is there any proof that he had any Irish ancestry?

His mother was from an "old" New York family of English(and possible Dutch) descent, and his father was an Englishman. 185.24.235.156 (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]