Talk:Wentworth Park

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edited the introduction of this page to make it more informative and to the point of its being. It now explains that Wentworth Park was the home ground for the extinct Glebe Dirty Reds. Very important history pointing out where the history blood lines started for this rugby league club in 1908.[[[User:Bradley1956|Bradley1956]] 09:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)]

needs expanding, to show that the sports complex, is a part of the larger green area also known as, the whole being built on BlackWattle Bay/Swamp
and not so much the greyhound or speedway in the current context Dave Rave (talk) 07:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wentworth Park v Wentworth Park Sporting Complex Dave Rave (talk) 22:34, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

reverted edit[edit]

Editor Dave Rave reverted my edit with this edit summary: gadzooks but i don't know what he did do, but i can't see it, so it must be important - FFS give a reason or post something worthy, dammit - and FFS get the date correct

Yep, the addition of a single pipe is hard to see. This was the original cs1 template:

{{Cite web |url=http://www.sau.uts.edu.au/assessment/exams/wentworth-park.html |title=UTS: Wentworth Park |publisher=University of Technology Sydney accessdate=2012-09-12| deadurl= no}}
"UTS: Wentworth Park". University of Technology Sydney accessdate=2012-09-12. {{cite web}}: Missing pipe in: |publisher= (help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

and after modification:

{{Cite web |url=http://www.sau.uts.edu.au/assessment/exams/wentworth-park.html |title=UTS: Wentworth Park |publisher=University of Technology Sydney |accessdate=2012-09-12| deadurl= no}}
"UTS: Wentworth Park". University of Technology Sydney. Retrieved 2012-09-12. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

As part of the revert process, Editor Dave Rave modified the template to use dmy format but negleceted the fix that my script made so the citation is once again broken:

{{Cite web |url=http://www.sau.uts.edu.au/assessment/exams/wentworth-park.html |title=UTS: Wentworth Park |publisher=University of Technology Sydney accessdate=12 September 2012| deadurl= no}}
"UTS: Wentworth Park". University of Technology Sydney accessdate=12 September 2012. {{cite web}}: Missing pipe in: |publisher= (help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

To address the other points in the edit summary:

FFS give a reason or post something worthy, dammit:
Each edit that this script makes includes this edit summary:
top: CS1 maint: Missing pipe fixes; using AWB
follow the link to learn why this fix was made.
and FFS get the date correct
the purpose of the script is to add pipes where they are determined to be missing. It is not the purpose of the script to fiddle with parameter content.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 10:28, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Trappist the monk: Yes quite a strange revert, and the lengthy critism of your edit seemed unworthy. I'm afraid, upon checking, I must put my hand up as the editor who added the reference you fixed and missed that pipe, all the way back in 2012 and its taken this long for someone to notice it and fix! So thanks for correcting my accidental error, I'm just sorry you ended up having to do it twice! -- Whats new?(talk) 11:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are not alone. My script has, over the past few days, fixed 3700+ articles with similar problems. To set the record straight, I have made no changes to the article since the revert; the template remains broken.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
dang that thin blue line is hard to see. my bad Dave Rave (talk) 23:28, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rename[edit]

This is going to get a refocus, as the park, that it is. And the current contents are going to the WP Sporting Complex. When I get to it ... Dave Rave (talk) 04:36, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

maplink[edit]

why does the recently added maplink show the details of the sporting complex and not the park in whole ? Dave Rave (talk) 07:13, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Rave: It's because the OpenStreetMap data for the park has two separate green areas and a stadium, with the stadium connected to the Wikidata item. I'm able to edit this, but I'm unsure the correct way to demonstrate this relationship. TheDragonFire (talk) 09:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The article itself primarily focuses on the complex, as the parkland itself isn't particularly notable without the sporting complex in the middle. As such, I would suggest the link is suitable as is -- Whats new?(talk) 09:23, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ok, wrong why ... not that the focus of the article is wrong. The article is titled as the whole of the green area surrounded by three roads. Why does the map link show the sports complex and not the park area ? Dave Rave (talk) 15:28, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
there it is ... there is a wiki entry on that part of the park in OSM. Hmmm, more to think in Dave Rave (talk)
Apparently OpenStreetMap has separate objects for the stadium and for the surrounding park. The former is associated to the Wikidata item. Since the item says it's about an "instance of a stadium", that seems to be correct. Arguably we could change the Wikidata item or create a new one that covers the entire Wentworth Park, not just the stadium and then try to fiddle with OpenStreetMap, but I don't think that's worth the effort. In either case the problem is with Wikidata or with OpenStreetMap, not really with this article. Huon (talk) 21:57, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
thinking I re-word it as the park with the sports complex as a paragraph ...
or rename this and reword the resulting redirect page. Dave Rave (talk) 22:34, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Dave Rave: Again, note the article relates to the encompassing park as well as the race track. There is nothing wrong with the article as written. The text already notes its use as a park for union, league, soccer, etc as well as the park's history in addition to the track in the middle. The park without mentioning the track is not notable on its own and vice versa, so splitting the articles or renaming is not appropriate in my view, and would almost certainly lead to one or both being deleted for failing the WP:GNG policy -- Whats new?(talk) 03:11, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 May 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wentworth Park → Wentworth Park Sporting Complex – the article is about the venue, not the park that it is in Dave Rave (talk) 03:04, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In a general short fashion it may be referred to as WP, being you're a dog person talking about the track, (what else would it be?), the web page says WP Complex or WP Sports, the about page says the full suggested title.
the park runs from the bay over Bridge Road to the head of Blackwattle Creek and deserves it's own page. Dave Rave (talk) 03:07, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support While initially I tended to be opposed, I have found a website [1] , which I have just added to the article, where it is referred to as the Wentworth Park Sporting Complex.Fleet Lists (talk) 03:53, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    noting - the UTS exam cite refers to the full name Dave Rave (talk) 09:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I've tweaked the article so it is about the park in general. This seemed sensible as we do not have an article on the park yet. The sporting complex is in its own section. If it ever becomes too big then it can be split off, but perhaps there is no need to consider a move at this stage. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I remember that from earlier, I'll fix the article to be more be the park and think about writing the Complex as new Dave Rave (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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