Talk:Virgil Grandfield

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This article is not an orphan. Katrinpark (talk) 13:45, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

March 2010 Proposal for Deletion[edit]

Please do not delete too quickly. Consider this a stub for the moment. I oppose deletion. Virgil Grandfield is notable for more than one newsworthy event as a whistleblower. I am researching and will post more content in the coming weeks. As a whistleblower Grandfield is now quite notable given the magnitude of the recent Red Cross affair and its development.Denis.g.rancourt (talk) 16:30, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okie-dokie; if you can find coverage of him outside of the whistleblowing I'm fine with keeping the article. Otherwise (assuming the whistleblowing affair is independently notable) a standalone article for the affair would be more effective than an article on the whistleblower. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 17:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I now have added much content. I believe it is clear that the acceptability criteria are met. I suggest removing the Deletion Notice and instead adding a Stub Notice to encourage other authors to add content. There is much material on this article in news archives. Many stubs have fewer references and less newsworthiness than this article. Here is an example of a Catagory:Whistleblowers stub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre Denis.g.rancourt (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Much material on the whistleblowing yes, but that isn't sufficient for inclusion. You must demonstrate that he's notable for multiple things, not just the whistleblowing. Ironholds (talk) 11:18, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Come come now, that's like saying so and so is notable only for politics but he must be notable for more than one thing. Whistleblowers is an established Wiki person category and he has whistleblown on more than one media-reported issue, in different countries. Are you going to delete the Jane Akre stub also? In addition, there are very few controversies that have given rise to two CBC TV documentary news reports in Canada and the Red Cross issue continues to develop.Denis.g.rancourt (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, since a political career is not a "single event". If he has engaged in multiple whistleblowing activities, there have been documentaries, etc then make that clear, show that has happened and I've got no problem with the article being kept. Ironholds (talk) 16:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the present version of the article. The section titles make it clear that there was ongoing whistleblowing on different issues reported by the media. Also adding more content on new issues soon. But even as it stands I am of the position that it should not be deleted and that it is more than a stub.Denis.g.rancourt (talk) 16:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair does; if you can provide a ref for "The controversy has given rise to two documentary television reports produced by CBC Television and Radio Canada and aired in March 2010." I'm perfectly willing to remove the PROD, although the article does need to be rewritten slightly to remove the section headings. Ironholds (talk) 17:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Much improved; I've removed the tag. Thanks for putting up with my pedantic arse :p. Ironholds (talk) 18:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the Deletion tag has been removed by its author. Deletion matter is now resolved.Denis.g.rancourt (talk) 19:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion[edit]

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the newly edited entry now refers to the recent Canadian National Magazine Foundation award for Investigative Reporting won by Virgil Grandfield^[1] for an investigation he did into wide-spread slave trafficking on Red Cross tsunami projects in Indonesia. The story and award are important because the The Indian Ocean Tsunami was the deadliest in history^[2]. The story of the trafficking scandal has been confirmed by independent parties (Radio-Canada^[3] and Indonesia media^[4]), and the magazine award was determined by a panel of independent jurors^[5]. All relevant links to the award, third party confirmations, etc, are in the ) --Virgil Grandfield (talk) 06:50, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

[1] ttp://www.magazine-awards.com/index.php?tmpl=util_pdf_force_inline&file=http://www.magazine-awards.com//multimedia/nmafawards_assets/assets/files/awards/10/17948_31.pdf

[2] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami

[3] ttp://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/enquete/2009-2010/Reportage.asp?idDoc=106559&autoPlay=http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2010/CBFT/Enquete201003182000_1.asx,%20http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2010/CBFT/Enquete201003182014_1.asx,%20http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2010/CBFT/Enquete201003182029_1.asx

[4] ttp://nasional.kompas.com/read/2010/01/25/12015373/Untuk.Ongkos.Pulang.Saja..quot.Ngutang.quot

[5] ttp://magazine-awards.com/index.php?ci_id=1785&la_id=1

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