Talk:Veronika Scott

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Neutrality concerns[edit]

I feel like Veronika Scott wrote this herself. or her people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3bd8:5e30:ec6c:68fa:1ce8:c62f (talk • contribs)

Yes, that is obviously the case. The creator and main editor of this article was very honest about it, since she used her real name. Since Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, everyone is invited to participate, so it doesn't have to stay that way. Normally, people at Wikipedia are very critical about such a conflict of interest, and striving for the Neutral point of view is one of out pillars. But in this case, there's not much interest in making it more neutral. We're all volunteers ourselves, we ought to be forgiven for having a weakness for what she did.
That said, our system of checks and balances has also been gamed when User:Delcydrew, who has a vested interest in promoting business by a board member of the Empowerment Plan, and who has not shown any sign of following User:Ronz's advice to read WP:COI, removed the {{Unreviewed}} maintenance tag, which I'm now reinserting so that the process can go its intended way. — Sebastian 15:31, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I took a stab at it. Needs a great deal of work. At risk of deletion, but that should be easily fixed. --Ronz (talk) 16:36, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Ronz! It's good that you're looking at it with a critical eye. However, there is no risk of deletion, though, given that she got plenty of coverage in well-known media, such as CNN, NPR, The San Francisco Chronicle, The New York Times, Forbes &c. — Sebastian 19:03, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, one reason why this article might get deleted is because of the huge overlap with the article Empowerment Plan. I'll write about that under a separate headline below, as that is not a neutrality concern. — Sebastian 19:36, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Potential references[edit]

This was copied from this version of the article. Looks like there may be some WP:BIO sources here, as well as secondary sources that meet WP:BLP criteria. I didn't copy the "Appearances" section, assuming that those links would be far poorer or redundant, but it might be worth looking over them as well. --Ronz (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- NPR: Morning Edition: “Student Designs Coat to Keep Homeless Warm” (November 2010) [1]

- Core 77: “The Empowerment Plan: Veronika Scott’s Winter Coat for Detroit” (November 2010) [2]

- GOOD Design Daily: “A Coat to Help Detroit’s Homeless” (December 2010) [3]

- SWISS MISS: “A Coat to Help Detroit’s Homeless” (December 2010) [4]

- NPR: All Things Considered: “To Warm the Homeless, a Coat That’s a Sleeping bag” (December 2010) [5]

- CNN: “The BIG I: Coat Transforms into Sleeping bag” (January 2011) and “Surviving the Elements” [6]

- Detroit in Overdrive: Filmed by the Discovery Channel and aired on Planet Green (August 2011) [7]

- Fast Company: “How a 21-Year-Old Design Student’s Sleeping Bag-Coat Could Break the Cycle of Homelessness” (Interview with Jody Turner, August 2011) [8]

- San Francisco Chronicle: “Design Student Creates Coat for Homeless People” (September 2011) [9]

- Mitch Albom: Heart of Detroit: “Heart of Detroit: Veronika Scott” (January 2012) [10]

- The New York Times: “Altering Clothes, and Lives, With Design” (February 2012) [11]

- Forbes: “Sleeping-Bag Coat for the Homeless Leads to a Garment Industry” (March 2012) [12]

- Forbes: “What Chrysler, Eminem and Clint Eastwood Can Learn About Detroit From a Passionate Girl” (March 2012) [13]

- Forbes: “Helping the Homeless, One Coat at a Time” (April 2012) [14]

- Huffington Post: ”Veronika Scott, Stacy Abrams Win JFK New Frontier Awards” (November 2012) [15]

- EPA’s Blog About Our World: “Veronika Scott and Her Amazing Dream Coat” (December 2012) [16]

- NBC Nightly News “I Think Detroit is Going to Come Back” (January 2013) [17]

- Faces of GM: “Design Project Benefits the Homeless” [18]

- Crain’s Detroit Business: “Crain’s 20 In Their 20’s” (April 2013) [19]

- CB2: In The Loop: “influencers: veronika scott at work, The Empowerment Plan” (April 2013) [20]

- CB2: In The Loop: “influencers: veronika scott at home” (April 2013) [21]

- ABCNews.com: “Sleeping Bag Coats Warm, Employ Detroit Homeless” (May 2013) [22]

- NPR, All Things Considered: “An Entrepreneurial Seedling Sprouts in Detroit” (May 2013) [23]

- Huffington Post: “Sleeping Bag Coat Designed for the Homeless Draws Attention from Fashion Industry” (May 2013) [24]

- PBS Newshour: “Agents For Change” (May 2013) [25]

- PBS Newshour: “Sleeping Bag Coat for the Homeless Finds Fans in the Fashion World” (May 2013) [26]

- Forbes: “Meet Veronika Scott” (May 2013) [27]

- GOOD 100: “Meet Veronika Scott, Clothing and Empowering Detroit’s Homeless Population” (June 2013) [28]

- Womenetics: “‘Crazy Coat Lady’ Changing Lives for Detroit Homeless” (July 2013) [29]

- Huffington Post: "The Empowerment Plan's Veronika Scott Found A Better Way To Help The Homeless" [30]

Thank you, Ronz, for your thorough reporting of what you did. These should provide excellent material for expanding the article. Some of what they write is already in the article and not referenced; I will begin putting those in the appropriate locations. — Sebastian 19:03, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I entered the best in the Empowerment Plan article. Unfortunately, though, most links are not accessible anymore. — Sebastian 22:28, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Student Designs Coat To Keep Homeless Warm".
  2. ^ "The Empowerment Plan: Veronika Scott's WInter Coat for Detroit".
  3. ^ "A Coat to Help Detroit's Homeless".
  4. ^ "A Coat to Help Detroit's Homeless".
  5. ^ Ovshinsky, Noah. "To Warm The Homeless, A Coat That's A Sleeping Bag".
  6. ^ "CNN: The Big I".
  7. ^ "Detroit in Overdrive".
  8. ^ Turner, Jody. "How A 21-Year-Old Design Student's Sleeping-Bag Coat Could Break The Cycle Of Homelessness".
  9. ^ Fagan, Kevin (September 11, 2011). "Design student creates coat for homeless people". The San Francisco Chronicle.
  10. ^ "The Heart of Detroit: Veronika Scott".
  11. ^ Conlin, Jennifer (February 29, 2012). "Altering Clothes, and Lives, With Design". The New York Times.
  12. ^ Restauri, Denise (March 1, 2012). "Sleeping-Bag Coat for the Homeless Leads to a Garment Industry". Forbes.
  13. ^ Restauri, Denise. "What Chrysler, Eminem, and Clint Eastwood Can Learn About Detroit From a Passionate "Girl"". Forbes.
  14. ^ Linkner, Josh. "Helping the Homeless, One Coat at a Time". Forbes.
  15. ^ Murphy, Bridget (November 20, 2012). "Veronika Scott, Stacey Abrams Win JFK New Frontier Awards". Huffington Post.
  16. ^ Murray, Tom. "Veronika Scott and Her Amazing Dream Coa".
  17. ^ "I think Detroit's going to comeback".
  18. ^ "Design Project Benefits the Homeless".
  19. ^ Muñoz, Michelle. "Crain's Twenty in their 20s".
  20. ^ "influencers: veronika scott at work, The Empowerment Plan".
  21. ^ "influencers: veronika scott at home".
  22. ^ Valiente, Alexa. "Sleeping-Bag Coats Warm, Employ Detroit Homeless".
  23. ^ O'Leary, Lizzie. "An 'Entrepreneurial Seedling' Sprouts In Detroit".
  24. ^ "Sleeping Bag Coat Designed For The Homeless Draws Attention From Fashion Industry". Huffington Post. May 7, 2013.
  25. ^ "Young Agents For Change".
  26. ^ Harless, William. "Sleeping Bag Coat for the Homeless Finds Fans in the Fashion World".
  27. ^ "Forbes Millenials: Veronika Scott".
  28. ^ "Meet Veronika Scott, Clothing and Empowering Detroit's Homeless Population".
  29. ^ "'Crazy Coat Lady' Changing Lives for Detroit Homeless".
  30. ^ Kleinman, Alexis (August 14, 2013). "The Empowerment Plan's Veronika Scott Found A Better Way To Help The Homeless". Huffington Post.

Overlap with Empowerment Plan[edit]

As I'm looking through the references per my message below, I realize that there is a huge overlap between this article and Empowerment Plan, and it's not easy to decide which bit of information should go where. It would be easier if the two articles were merged, but I don't feel strong enough that they should. I'm just mentioning it to raise it as an issue that we need to deal with. As for me, aas I am working on adding some of the references from the previous section, I will mostly not add them to this article, but to Empowerment Plan. — Sebastian 19:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If there are no sources that demonstrate notability of one without the other, than a merge would be a good idea. --Ronz (talk) 20:11, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
From below, http://www.npr.org/2010/12/13/131910671/to-warm-the-homeless-a-coat-that-s-a-sleeping-bag is about her and he coat without mention of the organization. --Ronz (talk) 20:14, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I even remember seeing other projects of hers mentioned somewhere, so it may well be that the connection will be further loosened. Of course, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so it would be too soon to include any of that just yet. — Sebastian 22:25, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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