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Moto

No motos (sounds Japanese huh?) vision, mission statement? I need this for translations.--Jondel 06:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Deletion

I deleted most of the links to the official websites in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines. Anyway, users should be able to get to them via the main page of the official site. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for more info. Please leave any comments you might have about this edit on this talk page. Thanks! ;) --Jtalledo (talk) 07:41, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Famous People

I am assuming that these are people that attended the school? Thus we should say "notible former students". I see that for some schools, MIT doesn't list theirs even though 61 of them won the nobel peace prize. Harvard has a lot and created a seperate page for Notable non-graduate alumni of Harvard (maybe that would make sense here with so many. Or we could could narrow down the list to the more notible but I think some combination would be good. The most famous would be used in the article and we could have the full list on another page. I also like the idea of sorting by category not just alphabetical full listing. Like with Indiana_University_Bloomington#Notable_alumni Andrew Powell 04:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the Famous people section may be merged to the autonomous universities they originally studied? Howard the Duck | talk, 15:54, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

University of the Philippines people

As suggested by many, I had put together prominent UP faculty, students and alumni under List of University of the Philippines people. I realized that prominent people from many universities overseas are represented as such in Wikipedia. Furthermore, the listing of outstanding people from the University of the Philippines has stretched that entry beyond 34kb. The UP entry is way too long for a Wikipedia article. Hopefully, the List of University of the Philippines people will be a more cohesive alternative. 7258 14:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Clarification of CU Names

From UP WEBSITE: The Board also approved the clarification of the official names of the UP constituent universities (CUs). The official names of the CUs should not include the preposition “in”. According to BOR discussions, CUs which have been using the preposition give the impression that they are merely a presence in the area. To highlight their autonomous character, official names of the CUs are UP Diliman, UP Los Baños, UP Manila, UP Visayas, UP Mindanao, UP Open University, and UP Baguio.

The satellite campuses shall be referred to as follows: UP Diliman Extension Program in Pampanga, UP Diliman Extension Program in Olongapo, UP Manila School of Health Sciences, UP Visayas Cebu College, and UP Visayas Tacloban College.

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So, it should be University of the Philippines Diliman not University of the Philippines, Diliman which is the current naming convention here at the Wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.53.15 (talk) 21:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Counselling

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http://www.gmanews.tv/video/11258/Review-of-recent-hazing-deaths —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.255.158.114 (talk) 17:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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U.P. Centennial Year

I have started an article devoted to the U.P. Centennial Year. Please add to it and make sure to add references. Also, I hope someone can write about the kick-off on January 8.Nixenzo (talk) 12:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

On April 29, 2008, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo signed into law the University of the Philippines (UP) Charter of 2008, Republic Act No. 9500 at the UP Library Conference Hall in Lahug, Cebu. She also approved P 500 million budget which would be released over a period of five year to develop studies in engineering, research and development.[1] --Florentino floro (talk) 13:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
This is unrelated to the centennial. I would imagine that UP has a budget every year. maxsch (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ gma news, Arroyo signs new UP charter, allocates P500M UP budget over the next 5 years

UP Charter of 2008

The UP charter of 2008 is the first amendment or total revision since its founding charter; it is a great mistake to consider the new charter statute, as a petty budget measure; the P 500 million budget is just a minute part of the law. So I will have to add it not in the centennial section but in the upper main section. --Florentino floro (talk) 06:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what it is about the new Charter that "totally revises" the founding charter. Your edit seems to indicate that the new charter declares UP a "National University", but this randomly selected version of the page from 2007 [2] already calls UP a "national university." What would be notable about this new legislation would be some things that it changes in either the status or mission of UP. Thus far you have not included any such information. All you have added is that Gloria Macapagal Arroyo signed it and that it includes a budget. I'm sorry, but I still don't see notability. maxsch (talk) 18:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Allow me to be more specific. The article states that "the [original] 'University Charter', specified the function of the University, which is to provide advanced instruction in literature, philosophy, the sciences, and arts, and to give professional and technical training." Does the new charter change the function of the University? Does it simply renew the mission? I have not read the new charter, so it may in fact "totally revise" the old charter. But it is not enough to just say that. You have to describe how it revises the old charter, and at the same time, what elements of the old charter it keeps. The appropriate place for this edit would be at the bottom of the history section, but before the part about the Centennial. Unless the new charter is in fact a part of the Centennial celebration, in which case it would belong in that section. maxsch (talk) 18:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
The 1901 charter charter was so obsolete since at that time Philippines was still under USA. The new charter is not only an amendment but revision or total overhaul of obsolete old one. UP Charter of 2008, Republic Act No. 9500, was signed by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo into law on April 29, 2008, at the UP Library Conference Hall in Lahug, Cebu. It principally aims "to provide both institutional and fiscal autonomy to UP, specifically, to protect student's democratic access and strengthen administration through the recognition of UP system's board of regents and UP Council."www.pia.gov.ph, New charter reinforces UP's institutional, fiscal gripThe new charter declared UP as the Philippines national university, giving it "the enhanced capability to fulfill its mission and spread the benefits of knowledge."gmanews.tv, Arroyo signs UP Charter of 2008 into law --Florentino floro (talk) 09:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
This is much better, now you are giving examples of what the new charter does. I have to add though, now that these specifics are laid out, that it actually doesn't seem to "totally revise" the old charter. I would describe it more as "generally updating". In fact the new elements seem rather technical (fiscal autonomy, democratic student access, recognition of the board of regents) and not actually fundamental changes. This time I will leave your edit. Thanks, maxsch (talk) 17:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
On the contrary, if you read the old charter of 1901, this old one has almost 80% obsolete items, like the power of the Governor General, etc. Philippines became a Commonwealth in 1936 and in 1946 had been freed from USA, hence from these 2 dates, no Governor General existed. So, this new Charter totally revised the Charter of UP. --Florentino floro (talk) 11:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, maybe that is what you should have said in the article then, instead of some vague statement about "totally revising" the old charter. But the real issue about the new charter is how it will affect the functioning of the University. If it just updates the names of the branches of government, and it doesn't actually change the way the university works, then it isn't notable. Did you notice that I agreed with your last edit here? maxsch (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
A 1901 Charter, everybody knows in the Philippines, had been rendered so obsolete and non-functional since 1936 and 1946, ipso facto by change of sovereignty, change of constitution, and change of laws. Now, despite repeated requests from sectors, Congress failed to act on this, until these politicians found it IN TIME for their political agenda, to timely legislate on this New Charter since 1901, in time again for the UP Centennial one year celebrations. The thing is, you just read the first paragraph, but you failed to read the entire links/inquirer.net, etc. If you are familiar with legislation, the law is divided into parts: the Whereas clauses/paragraphs, the body and the enacting part. The body contains sub-sections, including budget measures, of course, but it does not make such a mere budget statute. So, I explained this in layman's way to you so that you may comprehend this very petty matter. You need tutorial on this. --Florentino floro (talk) 07:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Improvement

The new charter will help improve it's competitiveness. The newly crowned “national university,” however, needs P 3.6 billion to be at par with other universities in the area.abs-cbnnews.com, New charter to improve UP’s competitiveness but more funds needed--Florentino floro (talk) 09:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

UPAA 2008 Centennial Yearbook

The University of the Philippines Alumni Association announced its launching of a special 3-volume (P 500 for all 3 volumes) UPAA 2008 Centennial Yearbook on June 21, 2008, the UPAA Grand Alumni-Faculty Homecoming and Reunion at the Araneta Coliseum, Cubao, Quezon City. The theme is “UP Alumni: Excellence, Leadership and Service in the Next 100 Years,” with the 3 cover designs showing the works of National Artists Napoleon Abueva, Abdul Imao, and BenCab, respectively.Chief Justice Reynato Puno is the Yearbook's most distinguished alumnus awardee (among 46 other awardees).newsinfo.inquirer.net, UP to launch Centennial Yearbook at June 21 homecoming--Florentino floro (talk) 07:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Oblation run

Inquirer.net, ‘Oblation Run’ steals show in UP Centennial activities</ref> Runners called "Scholars of the People" carried placards, "Serve the People," to petition for the state subsidies to their education.Afp.google.com, 100 Philippine students run naked at university[3]--Florentino floro (talk) 12:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Centennial notes

The Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP) and UP issued commemorative P 100 UP Centennial notes, as collector’s item, at the BSP Security Plant Complex in Quezon City. The notes appear as four-outs (4 uncut pieces) in an especially designed folder (P1,000 each) featuring the signatures of all UP presidents including Roman.Inquirer.net, UP centennial P100 notes launched--Florentino floro (talk) 12:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Constituent Universities Templates

Meynardtengco (talk) 13:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC) new templates for constituent universities:

(Place information, specific to a constituent university, in the corresponding template)
{{UP}}
{{University of the Philippines, Diliman}}
{{University of the Philippines, Los Baños}}
{{University of the Philippines, Manila}}
{{University of the Philippines, Visayas}}

Publications

This article should include information about university publications such as the Philippinensian and the Collegian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.227.205 (talk) 10:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Source Cited 4 Times Does Not Exist

<ref name="UPStats1">[http://news.inquirer.net/nation/index.php?index=1&story_id=19007 ''In the Know: University of the Philippines''], Philippine Daily Inquirer Online. Accessed April 28, 2007.</ref>

The link leads nowhere (it's currently #2 in the reference list). And (at least according to Google) it does not exist. The statistics it references are quite important (eg, # faculty, # staff, # students). Does anyone know of an alternative source for these stats? I did a quick search in the UP Website and could not find any. --Nino Gonzales (talk) 02:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Did some more more searching. Here's a reference: http://newsletter.up.edu.ph/previous/2004sep07.htm. Will update the article. --Nino Gonzales (talk) 02:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Could not find a reference for the # of students. (here's one but this would mean that UP has a 1:4 faculty to student ratio, which doesn't seem true: http://www.topuniversities.com/schools/data/school_profile/default/universityofphilippines/?from_search=true) Just placed {{Fact}} --Nino Gonzales (talk) 02:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Sports

The subject on sports is missing in the "Sports. culture, traditions." Please revert this part with the previously existing section on sports.Aeron Valderrama (talk) 03:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

New UP System President

As you might know, the new president for the University of the Philippines was selected today, December 3, 2010. His name is Alfonso E. Pascual. Full C.V. of him can be found here. He is the current Alumni Regent for the Board of Regents and he is set to replace the present president Emerlinda Roman not this year but in February 2011.

Since he is only about to replace Roman in 2011, it is not good to remove Roman's name in the Regents section of this article. Anyway, the new Student Regent named Jacqueline Eroles has already assumed the position last November, I think on the 29th. She was the vice chairperson of UP Diliman for the school year 2009-2010.

I have posted links below just in case we need to cite details. These are early news printed online right after the voting of Pascual:

Please be guided accordingly.--— JL 09 talk (site)contribs    08:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Endowment

I find the characterization of the figure in the infobox as an "endowment" to be inaccurate. Based on the source cited, the figure is not an endowment but rather a yearly appropriation by the Philippine Government for the operation of the University. Endowments are supposed to be donations or grants, not yearly appropriations. I'll be deleting the figure if no explanation is given in response to this observation. Aclarado (talk) 13:52, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 03:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


This one might have a ways to go to be up to speed, but it may be possible to make this happen with some work. Some thoughts on what needs to be done to start. —Ed!(talk) 04:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


GA review (see here for criteria) (see here for this contributor's history of GA reviews)
  1. It is reasonably well written:
    Some needs for work here.
    • History section should be broken up into subsections. As is it's overly long, and perhaps may be better served as a standalone article.
    • Campuses section is off to a good start but needs more references.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable:
    Substantial corrections needed here I think.
    • The history section needs more sources. The beginning of the section is off to a good start, but loses steam pretty quickly as far as references go. The section needs to be extensively cited using reliable third party sources. See WP:RS.
    • Significant format fixes needed in the footnotes, some are bare URLs and others are needing additional details like author names, publishers, publication dates and other things. Essential for good sources. See WP:CITE.
    • I count 28 dead links. These need to be replaced, or new sources need to be added in their place.
  3. It is broad in its coverage:
    History
    • Too much detail: "Centennial celebration" should be able to be condensed to at most a sentence. Not massively important given the school's long history.
    • "U.P.A.A. 2008 centennial yearbook" should be removed entirely.
    Alumni
    • Worthwhile to expand that alumni section. How many living alumni? Any big notable names? Of course there is an article, but a summary rather than an empty section is worthwhile for top-level details on the school's alumni community.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy:
  5. It is stable:
    No problems here.
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:
    There appear to be several images, tagged correctly, so illustration isn't a problem immediately.
  7. Other:

On Hold There are some significant fixes needed but I do believe this article is off to a good start. —Ed!(talk) 04:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Closing the GA as unfortunately I've seen no progress in two weeks. —Ed!(talk) 01:23, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

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