Talk:Ulkatcho First Nation

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Note on article content[edit]

This is a note of information for anyone adding to this article, relating to Wiki guidelines as well as established ways of doing things in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America.

Please read WP:COI and, for any people articles, also WP:AUTO but don't be deterred. In cases of small organizations such as the Ulkatcho government, it is a given that mostly it's only going to be members of the organization are going to know enough, or care enough, to add to the article, despite WP:COI, which are Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest guidelines (WP:AUTO relates to autobiographical contributions for person-articles). Just please try to observe WP:NPOV (neutral point of view) and bear in mind that people from all over Canada and the rest of the world will be dropping by, so write in such a way and about stuff that it makes sense to them, not just people from Anahim.

Also, this article is for the Ulkatcho First Nation government and information on its claims/assets, issues/socioeconomic conditions, council and so on. A separate article on Ulkatcho should/could be written for information about Ulkatcho as a people and a culture ("ethno articles" as we call 'em in the Indigenous peoples' WikiProject), and as I gather there's a separate Ulkatcho language or dialect of Carrier language, or whatever it's a dialect of exactly (?), that's also a separate article. Also, each community and IR should/can have its own article, which is why all the reserves are red-linked in the main article - just click on one and you can start creating the article. There are various categories and stubs that will apply to any new articles; either visit other BC First Nations articles, of those that exist, for models of what to include and layout and such. Or you can send me a note to my talkpage and I'd be glad to help.....I've never made it to the Chilcotin but would like to one day (I'm from the Lillooet Country originally). I hear you folks have a great rodeo up there, and I've heard about that Itcha Mountain Fog stuff....I redlinked that in case anyone would care to write an article about what it is and what goes in it....or what doesn't go in it ;-) .... Hope you like your new page, and please feel free to make articles on other Carrier and Chilcotin communities, people, languages/dialects and governments.Skookum1 04:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Skookum1. Thanks for the heads up. It looks good to me, and I see all the reserves/communities/villages are availble to be articles to create. I like this system of using First Nations (elected band council gov't) for a serperation from the people. And, this has actually given me idea's to update the Squamish Nation, article. As for this article, I'm not sure of how much help. The Chilcotin is something of a black hole for me. All I know is: my people warred with them, many moons ago...lol But as a "Indigenous" perspective, it looks fine. I'm trying to get more friends to join in on wikipedia, for cultural and history stuff for other nations, to build a strong BC and Indigenous pages. Also, if you could check out [[Talk:Skwxwu7mesh Uxwuimixw|Talk:Skwxwu7mesh], not sure if you picked it up yet. This "message-tag" is hard to keep track of where to put messages, but I'm find a system that works. OldManRivers 09:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Ulkatchos are Carriers, though intermarried with Chilcotins; obviously part of Chilcotin life,though, in the sense of the Chilcotin country/community - there's a Tsilhqot'in government in Anahim Lake, too, I think; Itcha Mountain Fog is their "kickapoo joy juice", a home-made brew I heard about long ago in a Paul St. Pierre column on either the Anahim Lake Rodeo or the Alexis Lake Rodeo (or is it Alexis Creek?); it's the kind of separate culture article, if possible to be written, that makes for good reading. I'll try and find a well-organized First Nation/government article, and a well-organized ethno one, for you to refer to. You might want to have a look at Nisga'a and Gitksan and Haida, as to the "depth of coverage" possible for aboriginal-community history/people, although clear delineations there between government, culture/ethno, language and community articles haven't emerged yet, as according to the Indigenous people's WikiProject parameters; I'll dig up some well-compiled/delineated US comparisons, and maybe some in eastern Canada...it's been a while but I used to be pretty familiar with my way around the Project's various articles/content.....btw have you read Chiwid by Sage Birchwater (publ. Transmontanus Books, c.2000)?Skookum1 (Talk) 18:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Tsitsutl - Carrier language name?[edit]

If there's any Ulkatcho people monitoring this page, could you please confirm that the name origin on Tsitsutl Peak is correct, and maybe affirm that it's Carrier/Ulkatcho and not Chilcotin? The reference I got the information that it means "painted mountains" from didn't say which language....thanks.Skookum1 (talk) 18:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]