Talk:UFC 104

controversy

If you want to talk about the controversial win, saying "In a bullshit decision" isn't the proper way to do it, can someone at least make this look nonpartial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.99.222.65 (talk) 01:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Shogun was absolutely robbed. I think the article should mention this. is there any wiki-precedent for that? 98.109.77.15 (talk) 05:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I second the idea to add that to the article. Shogun beat Lyoto and everyone knows it.

It's beyond that-- if we want objective statistical evidence, read the compustrike. This is one of the most controversial decisions in combat sport history. It should at least be mentioned for f*ck sakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.98.35.252 (talk) 07:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I fourth this idea. I'd certainly accept citing from http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html and Dana White's comments during the post fight interview as a sign of objective criticism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skaijo (talk • contribs) 14:18, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll fifth the idea, I assume a lot of people echo this sentiment. I think we can find verifiable and objective sources favouring the fact Rua was robbed by what is possibly one of the worst cases of judging ever, particularly in a championship fight.

Should be helpful in just stating some controversy without showing too much favoritism: Quote during post fight conference, 'Dana White, the UFC president, even tacitly agreed that it looked from the good seats as if Rua had done enough to earn the win : “It’s disheartening [when you get a decision like this]. I used to complain about decisions like this when I was watching boxing. We have absolutely no say in it [the verdict, as an organisation]. It was a tough fight to score. What we saw was Rua back to his best. Perhaps he should have pressed more, but this is a definite re-match.”' --taken from Telegraph.co.uk http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/garethadavies/100002741/ufc-104-white-calls-re-match-after-machida-%E2%80%98ghosts%E2%80%99-48-47-verdict-over-rua/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skaijo (talk • contribs) 14:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The way this is currently written is still way too POV. It doesn't quote Cecil People's defense, and attributes impossible conclusions from the fightmetric source (it doesn't have metrics for control and pacing of a fight). I'm editting to correct this. Subdolous (talk) 22:14, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

use proper formatting, people :P

Either here or UFC 103 I think will be the Machida-Jackson Fight.

I think it will be more likely in December. If Machida-Jackson are indeed TUF coaches for Season 10, Spike and the UFC are on June/December Finale schedules, which would put the Machida-Jackson fight on the year end card. -Drr-darkomen (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd be surpise if Jackson was a coach again.I mean you probaly are right,but I don't see Jackson being a coach after he was two seasons ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forrestdfuller (talk • contribs) 10:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Well I guess you were right about Rampage being a coach for TUF X.Don't know why Evans would be the other guy though.Unless Dana is wanting TUF vets to be coaches.Actually just found out.

I think it has to do with marketability. Lyoto has limited english. And after that massive trash talking session between Jackson and Evans there is already a rivalry there. Seems like you are probably right about 103 though. Rumors are that Jackson/Machida will be in September prior to TUF10 airing. --Drr-darkomen (talk) 22:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I actually heard Jackson passed on the title shot to fight Evans

Yeah..... things change fast when rumors are flying around. :) --Drr-darkomen (talk) 23:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

where did you hear that? i think this page would be a lot better if it posted how much each of the fighters are making for the fight. anyone know where that info is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.185.157 (talk) 04:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

That information is released by some athletic commissions after the event. Just look at some of the UFC articles on here. --Drr-darkomen (talk) 04:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The page is contradictory. Background and title says Lyota -Rua, but 'Official fight card' says Lyoto- Silva. Could someone figure out which one it is and make the appropriate corrections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nordenfeldt (talk • contribs) 10:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC) why are these pages edited with worng information during the ppv? who gets a rise out of writing garbage or erasing all the info on the page?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.153.158 (talk) 03:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

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