Talk:Twice/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Kikriz27 (talk) 08:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:48, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2016

Kikriz27 (talk) 03:30, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. /wiae /tlk 04:32, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2016

• KOR: 49,904+
• JPN: 8,697+

Kikriz27 (talk) 03:34, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 22:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2016

• KOR: 688,078+

Cumulative Sales for "Like OOH-AHH":

• "Gaon Download Chart October 18-24, 2015 (see #15)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 29 October 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart October 25-31, 2015 (see #15)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 5 November 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart November 1-7, 2015 (see #17)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 12 November 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart November 8-14, 2015 (see #14)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 23 November 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart November 15-21, 2015 (see #15)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 30 November 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart November 22-28, 2015 (see #21)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 7 December 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart November 29-December 5, 2015 (see #35)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 10 December 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart December 6-12, 2015 (see #34)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 17 December 2015.
• "Gaon Download Chart December 13-19, 2015 (see #31)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 4 January 2016.
• "Gaon Download Chart December 20-26, 2015 (see #27)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 4 January 2016.
• "Gaon Download Chart December 27, 2015 - January 2, 2016 (see #17)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 7 January 2016.
• "Gaon Download Chart January 3-9, 2016 (see #9)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 14 January 2016.
• "Gaon Download Chart January 10-16, 2016 (see #9)". Gaon Music Chart. Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 21 January 2016.

Kikriz27 (talk) 03:38, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 22:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Unreliable sources

Allkpop and soompi are considered to be gossip blogs and not news sites. This is because both sites have statements on them saying they are not responsible for whether or not the information they publish is true. This of course makes them bad references and unusable for citation on Wikipedia. Peachywink (talk) 19:44, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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Suggest merge with Twice (band)

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a

Merge Proposal and / or Redirect. Please do not modify it.
The result of the request for the Proposed Merger of Myoui Mina into the Twice (band) article was: Consensus Reached–Awaiting Merge per Wikipedia NotabilityGuidelines.
Proposer @Katzenlibrary: or other interested party should proceed with the merge.

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• Support. I propose that Myoui Mina be merged with Twice (band). There is not enough notability for Mina on her own to warrant a separate page. Her background can instead me summarized in a sentence or so on the Twice page. Katzenlibrary (talk) 15:25, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. Twice is a fast growing K-pop band and have had a lot of controversy lately. To have track on each members I propose to have different sites for all of them. There are singers with not enough notability, but as Twice is a rookie group and fast growing, I propose to keep Myoui Mina - page. PSherzad (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Even groups that have been popular for years don't have pages for each member. What about Mina makes her notable enough to warrant her own page?Katzenlibrary (talk) 15:30, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Twice is a fast growing band overall, and she is one of the members gaining fame. Making a wiki page for her gives the fans more information about her. I don't see why not having a wiki page for her alone? Tell me the problem, and I will rethink my statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PSherzad (talk • contribs) 17:23, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

The biggest issue is that she doesn't meet notability guidelines: WP:N. She is only notable as a member of Twice and her contributions to the band are fully covered in the Twice article. As much as I'd love for each of the members to have their own articles, they haven't done anything yet to warrant them having their own page (except for Tzuyu due to the flag scandal). Even more successful bands do not have pages for each member unless that member has done something note-worthy on their own (acting career, solo debut, etc.), and Mina hasn't.Katzenlibrary (talk) 22:19, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I see, and thanks for pointing out why she can't have a page for herself. However, may I ask why this girl may have a page for herself then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuka_Nakamoto — Preceding unsigned comment added by PSherzad (talk • contribs) 10:34, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't really work on j-pop pages, but looking at her article I think I can see why she has her own page. Before becoming a member of Babymetal, she was a member of two other girl groups, one of which was marketed as the little sister group of Perfume. She also has a voice acting credit. Her notability falls outside of just her Babymetal activities, so I can see why she'd be warranted a separate page. As for Mina, like I said I hope that she will have a separate page one day, but for now there is no need for it.Katzenlibrary (talk) 23:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, this time someone helped with filling this page. I hope you respect the decision of ours to keep this page running. I think other people also find it helpful knowing her better. Twice doesn't mention Mina's life before and after becoming a trainee for JYPE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PSherzad (talk • contribs) 23:42, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't think a consensus to keep or merge the page has been reached yet...Katzenlibrary (talk) 23:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

• Support merge. Mina is not yet independently notable outside of Twice. Random86 (talk) 01:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose. Twice is a fast growing girl group in South Korea . Every member should have a wiki page for the fans to know them better. Mina is one of the famous members of the group. Twice wiki article doesn't state Mina's ballet training years, her dad being a famous alumnus in a university in Osaka, and became a professor orthopedics at the university hospital, 11 years of training in ballet and being the member who has the shortest training period, which is only 1 year. I got that in a Korean article. Since not all the international fans know hot to read Korean, I propose to keep Myoui Mina - page so that the international fans will know her better. Kimberly020995 (talk) 12:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

• Support She needs more individual activities like dramas, films and a solo career to be notable. Rockysmile11^(talk) 06:01, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

• Strong support Mina is not yet independently notable outside of Twice. -- Kanghuitari (talk) 08:34, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose : If Mina has notable achievements, she is entitled to have her own page. No harm for not letting her have it.Zxcblavjax (talk) 15:50, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree, however the question is if she has notable achievements outside of Twice, which she doesn't. Katzenlibrary (talk) 17:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose : She's a Japanese member of a high profile group, it will only be a matter of time when she'll need her own page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimeous (talk • contribs) 23:12, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

• Support : I think it's too early. Mina has not yet done individual activities. She's always doing activities with the other members. Even Nayeon has more pre-debut and current work than her. And it's a little weird that she has her own page while the other 7 members don't have their own. Accireioj (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:06, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

It's not weird that she has her own page. She is quite famous thanks to twice, and it is better to keep this page as in matter of time the other 7-8 members will also get their own page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by PSherzad (talk • contribs)

• Support : Mina does not have enough individual recognition. I support merging Myoui Mina with Twice (band) and suggest having separate paragraphs for each member and their beginnings i.e. how they got into JYP, early life etc., like Red Velvet's page. Once they start getting more popular and have more solo activities, then separate pages can be made. Tzuhyo (talk) 06:04, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

The group is already famous, and to even think that hey got 10 CF deals 1 month after they debuted is shocking. I think it is better to keep this page as they are rising in fame excessively. I don't see any problem with keeping this page anyways, as it doesn't waste anything. Myoui Mina having her own page like Tzuyu is a great achievement for both the fans and herself.— Preceding unsigned comment added by PSherzad (talk • contribs)

• Strong Support She has absolutely no solo work and zero notable activities/ events outside of her group. We do not predict the future fame of people on this site. All her information can be put in a members section on the main page same as other groups do. Peachywink (talk) 19:51, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support Other people who have done more individual activities than her, like for example, acted in shows, released their own songs, do not even have pages because they still don't meet the requirements or they're just included in the group's page if they're a member. It's all about what she's done outside of Twice, and there aren't any except for appearances on random shows and music vids. She might become notable enough to deserve a page in the future but not at the moment. Lonedirewolf 21:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I just edited the members' section Lonedirewolf 01:56, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I think this is an excellent solution to the issue at hand. It offers background and highlights individual members until their careers reach a status that would warrant an individual page. I would suggest we use these edits as a compromise for the merger of Myoui Mina's page. Katzenlibrary (talk) 22:06, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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Suggest merge with Twice (band)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to merge Im Nayeon with Twice (band) per Wikipedia Notability Guidelines. Katzenlibrary (talk) 19:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

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• Support: Pages for other Twice members have already been called into question for not meeting Wikipedia's notability guidelines (see WP:N and WP:ENTERTAINER), and it appears that Nayeon also fails to meet the requirements. In discussions of other members' notability, she is often used as a reference (i.e., the argument that "even Nayeon" who has had more activities doesn't have her own page), which may make her appear to be a standard of notability. However, her current career does not meet the requirements to warrant a separate page on Wikipedia, though she comes arguably closer than her band mates. While she edges on notability, her individual Wikipedia article is likely a case of WP:TOOSOON. I would suggest merging this article with Twice (band) for now with a redirect as a place holder until her career is further developed. Katzenlibrary (talk) 17:55, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support merge. Nayeon is not yet independently notable. She is likely to be independently notable in the future, but it's currently WP:TOOSOON. As a side note, none of the oppose arguments on Talk:Myoui Mina have any validity so far. Random86 (talk) 00:30, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support Merge. Nayeons handful of individual pre-debut CFs are not enough to make her notable on her own. Even if she is super cute.Peachywink (talk) 05:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support. Not individually notable. Drmies (talk) 02:29, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

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Suggest merge with Twice (band)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to merge Momo Hirai with Twice (band) per Wikipedia:Notability. TheInfernoX (talk) 15:39, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

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• Support: I propose that Momo Hirai be merged with Twice (band). Momo does not have enough notability on her own to warrant a separate page. This information in this article is already sufficiently summarized in her section on the Twice article. Katzenlibrary (talk) 00:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support: No outside solo work or notability aside from her group. Definitely doesn't meet the criteria for , or need, her own page. Peachywink (talk) 07:56, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Support. Not individually notable. Drmies (talk) 02:29, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support. Not individually notable. Asdklf; (talk) 03:56, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support. Momo is not individually notable. Random86 (talk) 02:33, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support. As of now, Momo is not individually notable. No solo work yet other than from her group. TheInfernoX (talk) 03:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

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Suggest merge with Twice (band)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to merge Momo Hirai with Twice (band) per Wikipedia:Notability. Accireioj (talk) 06:57, 02 April 2017 (UTC)

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• Support: I propose that Momo Hirai be merged into Twice (band). Like what happened earlier this year, I think Momo is STILL not individually notable. Her current individual page is already summarized on the group's page. Accireioj (talk) 14:23, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support: Not notable and will stay not-notable in the near future as she obviously wont have a solo musical releases since she cant sing at all, she would need to became an actress in drama to became individually notable 86.58.36.145 (talk) 17:43, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support: Wait until she has notable solo activities before creating the page.
• Comment: Also, some user is keep recreating Sana and Mina articles, those should be deleted as well 86.58.36.145 (talk) 18:46, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support: I entirely agree, I have been editing both the Momo Hirai and Mina Myoui articles solely for means of keeping them as useful sources, but in my opinion they are not at all needed especially since neither of the two (and also Sana's article which is constantly off and on) have done nothing notable unlike fellow band member Chou Tzu-yu. The articles themselves are just acting as extension's which is completely uneeded at this moment in time. Abdotorg (talk) 19:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support: Support per nom. Article for the group already summarize her individual life. No need to have her own article until she does something notable. Bagas Chrisara (talk) 10:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support She still hasn't reached the point yet where she has enough individual activities that a separate page is needed.Peachywink (talk) 14:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

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Disputed material

NayeonBunny has twice reverted Drmies' removal of this material. I've reinstated the removal. Please discuss why any of this should be replaced in the article, given that we are not a fan site and the group's site presumably has all this information. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you, Yngvadottir. The problem of course is that the material is indeed not encyclopedic and lacks proper verification. The moment we started listing all such TV and other media appearances, we are truly nothing more than a fan site--or, more likely, a mirror of the company web site. Drmies (talk) 15:03, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I have added some of this information, but I can see the point Drmies is making. I propose this compromise: to only include appearances that are notable. For example: the appearances on Sixteen and the multiple Twice TV series are notable because the formed the band and because they are reality shows based around the group, respectively. In fact, those appearances should absolutely be included in the filmography since they are shows where the members were the main cast. I would also suggest including appearances on notable television shows such as Weekly Idol or where members were a contestant of some sort such as King of Masked Singer, but removing appearances where only one or two members appeared. As for the lack of verification, many of those appearances should have sources that either I or Accireioj added. I can also collect sources for appearances we choose to leave in. The issue is more IP addition of appearances that slip by us as we add sources. Thoughts? Katzenlibrary (talk) 16:11, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm with you on the shows that formed the band--but isn't that already in the article text? The source requirement is also to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff, but we discussed this already. So sources--good sources. I hope you understand that I'm also a little pissed at a brandnew account coming out of nowhere calling me a "hoe", which is silly cause I'm like totally not a ho. Drmies (talk) 17:48, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Wow! I didn't see where that happened. Was it in the edit summaries? That is COMPLETELY unacceptable no matter what. As for the discussion at hand, I must admit, I was surprised you removed the content all over again after we had already discussed how the section might be conducted. I felt kind of betrayed by it since I thought we had an understanding. But we can work it out now with input from other editors as well! Katzenlibrary (talk) 17:05, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Agree with the removal of this material. If it's not noteworthy enough to merit a mention in the text, then why include it at all? Also, details of individual Sixteen shows are already documented at the page Sixteen (TV series) - that's where that information belongs, if anywhere. We don't appear to have any information on Twice TV, but again that information would belong in a text section, first and foremost. Cmeiqnj (talk) 18:29, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I disagree. Many articles for other celebrities, Korean or not, do not discuss all of the elements of a filmography in the text of the article and when they do it does not mean the content is removed from the filmography section. Furthermore, TwiceTV is mentioned in the article text at the end of the Pre-debut section. All that is missing is a mention of TwiceTV2 and TwiceTV3. Katzenlibrary (talk) 17:05, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

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"girl group" or "band"

I'm not going to request a move because after some research it seems like "band" is also common in referring to these groups. But should the parenthetical disambiguator be "band" or "girl band/group" etc.--Prisencolin (talk) 23:50, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I prefer Girl Group as most TV shows and the company JYPE itself also call TWICE girl group NaTzu1001 (talk) 15:09, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Activities before debut

Filmography and videography should not feature appearances before the group’s debut (i.e. when they appeared when they were still trainees) since this is an article for the group. Mentioning them in the individuals’ sections looks fine, and when each of the members eventually get their own articles those entries would be justified in official filmo/video table. However they certainly were not representing Twice before 2015. I would also like to point to F(x) (band)#Pre-debut as a good example. Also pages such as Beast and EXID do not include solo works of Lee Gi-kwang or Solji before they joined the group. I will come back after some days to do the edit. IdentityCrisis (talk) 16:23, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

• I edited it. Some relevant discussion is above regarding the whole of filmo/video section, but including activities even before the group was in existence is a whole different area and I believe the removal is justified and in line with the "precedents" on Wikipedia. IdentityCrisis (talk) 01:26, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Reality/Variety shows

I know this was already discussed before, but I would like to bring it up again. Twice is a very active group so they're on TV for, let's say at least once a week. The group has 9 members so they also have a lot of individual gigs. Imagine in 3 years, if they are still promoting actively, the whole page will be filled with the Reality/Variety shows section.

So I suggest to only include their shows as a full group, and the members' regular shows (like Dahyun's appearance on Real Men: Female Special and Weekly Idol as a host and Jeongyeon as regular host of Inkigayo). We can also include Momo on Hit the Stage since she was one of the pioneer members and even attended the press conference for the show. We can later make a Reality/Variety shows section for their individual gigs on their individual page. That's all. Hoping for some feedback. Thank you! Accireioj (talk) 05:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree. However, I think we limit the list to only include major appearances (shows where they are the sole focus of the episode such as Weekly Idol, long-term roles such as permanent hosting positions or roles in dramas, and obviously their personal shows such as TWICE TV, etc.) since the Wikipedia guidelines require this kind of discernment. I'd be happy to pull together a list like this complete with sources for inclusion on this page. I know this has been a hotly contested area of this article, so I'm open to ideas/criticism from others. Any thoughts from anyone else? Katzenlibrary (talk) 17:59, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Member list

Hi Random86, I noticed your recent edits and wanted to talk about them a little bit. I've seen your past discussions about the member table issue, and I'm not here to re-argue all of that. But I did want to propose a compromise on this particular band. If it was a smaller group I wouldn't blink an eye at it, but since there are so many members from different countries in this group, I think that keeping a member table would be helpful to organize the information. Part of the goal of Wikipedia is to present relevant information in the best way possible. Tables exist in order to present information in a simple, easily accessible way (it's the entire point behind Microsoft Excel).

Based on past discussions, I can understand wanting to remove birthdays and members' names in multiple languages. I like that kind of information (well, birth dates anyway) personally, but I can see the point you all are making. I do think that the stage names, birth names (since many use different names in this group), and nationalities are relevant to this particular group, however. With so many members, keeping all of this info in a list edges on being a wall of bulleted text, so I've inserted an alternative table that only presents the info I mentioned above as simply as possible. Take a look and see if we can agree to this. We can talk about tweaking if you still have a problem with it. TerryAlex has had some interesting insights about formatting in the past and was involved in past discussions about members tables, so I wouldn't mind having their input as well. Thanks! Katzenlibrary (talk) 19:05, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, can we add a picture for Jihyo? Seems fair for all members to have one. Cheesechoi (talk) 14:59, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

@Cheesechoi: You can find an appropriate photo on her commons page. -- Bagas Chrisara (talk) 04:09, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2017

Hi, Could we add the videography of twice into the wikipedia page? If not the videography, the reality shows such as Twice TV (1-4) and Twice private life (+additionally reality shows they may film)? This is because usually the wiki page is the first place someone would go to learn more about twice. By adding in reality/variety shows they've been on, someone who may not be familiar with the group may learn more about them. To make it easier for yourselves, all appearances by the group have already been documented here: http://onehallyu.com/topic/276023-the-official-twice-shows-compilation-eng-sub/. However many people do not know of this thread. By putting their appearances or reality shows on the wikipedia page, new fans, fans, non-fans may be able to learn more about the group. Many thanks. Heartsbetold (talk) 02:42, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Twice videography article already exists and you have all the shows here, it was discussed many times on other pages that those weekly variety shows guest appearances are not really a "videography" anyway, Wikipedia is not a resume to list unnotable list of shows, you have fanpages for that. 86.58.36.145 (talk) 20:33, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

I checked and it looks like the article was deleted so it doesnt exist, sorry for wrong information. Look at Im Yoona talk page, it was discussed here 86.58.36.145 (talk) 20:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  00:14, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2017

Please update that Dahyun has graduated from Hanlim! Dinochennie (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2017 (UTC)Dinochennie

 Done Snowflake91 (talk) 10:32, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2017

139.192.98.177 (talk) 08:06, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 09:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2017

Please update that the repackaged album is no longer "reportedly" another version of Twicecoaster: Lane 1, as JYP Entertainment has already opened the album for pre-order, given the date of the repackaged album Twicecoaster: Lane 2's Title Track music video release date and posted different teasers and track list on Social Media Sites. TomboyGeek (talk) 12:20, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

 Done Snowflake91 (talk) 13:06, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2017

would like to add a new picture and write their names from left to right, since it's unclear at this point. Anya yas (talk) 09:56, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Which picture would you like to add? The current one is the best picture available, you cant simply use some random image from the web. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:17, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

The picture is fine, I was wondering if you could add their names, for example: From left to right, Top: x,x,x, Centre: x,x,x, Bottom: x,x,x It would be easier for new people discovering them. Anya yas (talk) 10:37, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

 Done Snowflake91 (talk) 11:06, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2017

Can someone please change the current picture of the article to this picture? This is the picture that the current Korean and Chinese Wikipedia is using, and it can be the new article picture although it is not as clear as the current picture but it is a considerably new picture taken in 2017 mid January.

If the Korean and Chinese Wikipedia(Which is updated often due to the fact them having a large amount of fans in these two regions' users) is using the picture, I think that it can be used in the English Wikipedia too. TomboyGeek (talk) 14:18, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. -- Dane ^talk 03:53, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Twice's variety shows

I think you should add another article for twice's full filmography, just like their awards and nominations its important to have filmography too.

Secretk-poper (talk) 18:47, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Everything notable is already included (Sixteen, Twice TV etc.), guesting on variety shows is not notable to be included Snowflake91 (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2017

Please update that JYP Entertainment already announced the comeback of Twice(The single name is Signal) in May 15, and JYP Entertainment also uploaded a teaser picture for the album/single on Social Media, as seen here, the tweet about the comeback from the official account on Twitter. [1] TomboyGeek (talk) 03:11, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done Accireioj (talk) 11:41, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

New Photos

The members + Twice's photo needs to be changed as it's 2017 already.

Also, I mentioned before variety shows. You can make another article like other artists and put all their filmography, in other wikipedias like the korean one it has it's own article.

Secretk-poper (talk) 19:02, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Nah, this is an encylopedia and not a fancruft collection of every single minor appearance on TV by every single member, Korean wikipedia has different standards about that, all members even have their own articles while there only Tzuyu passes WP:GNG, if you are referring to this page, its waaay too long and fancruft Snowflake91 (talk) 19:12, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Change the members + group photos to 2017 ones, these are from cheer up era and needs to be updated.

Secretk-poper (talk) 11:02, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Provide a link to the picture(s) you would like to use, I dont see many 2017 pictures uploaded, there are some but most of them are not good as they are facing away from the camera Snowflake91 (talk) 11:26, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

I think this is good. http://img.kpopmap.com/wp-content/uploads_kpopmap/2017/01/twice-pocari-sweat-otsuka-pharmaceutical-once-live-2017-models-endorsement.jpg pocari sweat january

as for the members photos i have no idea, try to get some out of photoshoots or cfs

Secretk-poper (talk) 11:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Please read the guidelines (Wikipedia:Uploading images) first before asking for new photos. Wikipedia is NOT a fansite. Thanks. Accireioj (talk) 11:37, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

I updated the pictures from Commons category, altrough the Tzuyu and Nayeon pictures are bad due to strange lighting/shadows. There is no Dahyun picture from 2017 though, only this one, which is also bad due to some object infront of camera Snowflake91 (talk) 11:58, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

About the group picture, if it's a cheer up performance a knock knock performance picture could be good also, or their new signal photo teaser. Secretk-poper (talk) 12:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Did you even read what Accireioj posted about image licensing? 99,99% pictures on the web are NOT released under the free licence (not copyrighted by anyone), therefore we cannot use them on Wikipedia. Do you think that we would be using those crappy photos if we could simply google "twice" or "momo" and use the best quality professional photos? Snowflake91 (talk) 12:18, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2017

I know they didn't release yet..but if you can, can you add twice tv 5 to their filmography? if not because they did not release it yet that's ok. Envisuo (talk) 12:27, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done Accireioj (talk) 12:32, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2017

According to Koreaboo, that the Twice will have a cameo in My Korean Jagiya drama. http://www.koreaboo.com/news/alexander-lee-star-filipino-drama-korean-jagiya/ Parkwoohyun2017 (talk) 14:36, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

We dont add unofficial speculations, wait for the official announcement, and Koreaboo is very unrelaible source anyway. Snowflake91 (talk) 14:43, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Can we make separate pages for the members?

It might be a bit too little to give out facts about them. I wish to make separate pages --Famitsuu (talk) 01:55, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

None of them are notable enough to have an article, they were already redirected before Snowflake91 (talk) 09:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Members info

can you guys put info on each member again? don't mention works or shit but you could mention the age and full name. Envisuo (talk) 16:14, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

1.8M Sales

Do you think it's possible to add that twice has 1.8M sales now and not 1.2M? If you count oricon with all the releases and OMT + Gaon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tzvyu (talk • contribs) 19:29, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Only Gaon Chart is counted for sales I think, and you should provide a source where it says that they have 1.8M sales (not a forum or Twitter, but a published source from media). Snowflake91 (talk) 19:32, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Twice videography

No indication this list necessary on it's own, best merged into parent article of the band. Ifnord (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

• Ifnord, that's part and parcel of being K-pop: every single thing has to have a separate article, a navigation box, etc. Discography, videography, danceography, articles for every individual member, a list of songs, a list of awards and nominations, and an excruciating amount of detail sourced to PR sites masquerading as fan/gossip portals. Good luck. Also, support. Drmies (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
• Oh, I forgot the list of tours--and all this for a band that has managed to produce one single album--though I'm sure there's a million articles on their EPs and those EPs' dozen different versions. Only thing missing is a List of blood types of Twice members and List of official colors of Twice members. Just wait till they hit the big time and they get trainees and sub-sections. And a reality show. Drmies (talk) 16:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
• Anyway, I reverted {{U|Mshb73||'s split, for which no good reason was provided. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I was stupefied by the intense discussion here of intricate detail. Someone asking why the birth dates and birthplaces were removed. I appreciate your warning, Drmies. I will try and avoid K-pop articles in the future. Ifnord (talk) 16:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

No no Ifnord--please don't avoid them. Those articles need editors with common sense; many of them, I have no doubt, are edited by fans who like K-pop more than Wikipedia and by PR executives/COI editors. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

The birthdates, birthplaces and full names of all the 9 members

Why are the birthdates, birthplaces and full names of all the 9 members removed? It's not like it breaches each of the members' privacies. Can we all add them at the "Members" subsection? Thank you. - Aki (talk · contributions), 18:30 (UTC), 06 November 2017.

Hi, you can discuss about that here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Korea/Popular_culture#Members_sections. Accireioj (talk) 10:34, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

I looked into the discussion above. While I have always felt wary of Wikipedia articles growing into some kind of fan wiki sites, currently the members section is entirely devoid of useful info. Literally the only information conveyed is the Korean literation of their names, which I don't think is even necessary. I would argue that at least their full names and nationality deserve to be mentioned there. I understand the concerns of privacy in WP:BLP but their full names are very much published on many reliable sources, and people's birth names are the one essential piece of info for everyone in my opinion. (Also to be noted is how a lot of Western artists use their real names, but K-pop girl/boy band members tend to have screen names even if they're just mononyms.) As for the nationalities I think the fact that Twice is a multinational group itself is notable and worth explaining as it is intrinsically linked to how the group operates, but I guess it can also be explained in a separate section while discussing these stuff, and not as a piece of trivia. All in all, I think at least their full names must be represented in the section. Just my two cents coming from a WPer's view, and not a particular fan's. IdentityCrisis (talk) 06:54, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Move

their real name is TWICE.Request to move to TWICE (band).--Janee Talking! 07:34, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Not done: As per MOS:TMRULES. Accireioj (talk) 07:39, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2018

"seven times" should be edited to either "sevenfold" or "700%" to more clearly represent the increase in stock value. MurtG (talk) 21:12, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done, with a slight wording change from what you requested. Hopefully that's still acceptable. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 01:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:4L (band) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 16:20, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

New Album Update

Hi, the most recent album listed is the Yes or Yes album but has no further details that were similarly said about previous albums (e.g. members writing songs, YouTube views etc.) and a newer album has also been released titled 'The year of Yes', which is a reissue of Yes or Yes. Here are some details: The title track for Yes or Yes (same title) was composed by David Amber and Andy Love, with lyrics by Sim Eun-jee. The third track 'Lalala' was written by member Jeongyeon The fourth track 'Young & Wild' was written by member Chaeyoung The fifth track 'Sunset' was written by member/leader Jihyo The seventh track is a Korean version of their previous Japanese single 'BDZ' written by J.Y.Park At the time of the release, the title track 'Yes or Yes' was the fastest kpop girl group music video to reach 20 million views on YouTube (in 10 hours)

The year of Yes is Twice's 3rd special album, winter holiday themed reissue of Yes or Yes The title track is '올해 제일 잘한 일' (The Best Thing I Ever Did' written by J.Y.Park The second track is a Korean version of their Japanese single 'Be as ONE' And The 8th Album hit 200 millions views , which is called by fans ‘Feel Special’ Chloe.Ophelia (talk) 09:41, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Studio albums

It really feels like the discography section is lacking. Maybe an exception can be made to list more than their 2 studio albums since they have so much other work? In Korea it's not unusual for 2 studio albums and 5 mini albums to be released. Twice had 3 comebacks last year and we're only listing 2 albums here. Something doesn't feel quite right about that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkpasta (talk • contribs) 20:28, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jkpasta: they have an entire article dedicated to their discography where everything can be seen, why should an exception be made for Twice when this is what’s done throughout Wikipedia? Alexanderlee (talk) 22:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Members Chaeyoung and Tzuyu

I saw a previous suggestion to show that Dahyun graduated. Chaeyoung and Tzuyu recently graduated Seoul’s Hanlim Multi Arts School. Chloe.Ophelia (talk) 09:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

This has been incorporated on the page for Tzuyu and added at Draft:Chaeyoung. --Redalert2fan (talk) 14:29, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Move Twice (group) to Twice

This article is currently located at Twice (group) because Twice is a disambiguation page. Looking at the entries on the Twice disambiguation page, they all seem totally insignificant, especially compared to Twice (the kpop group). Is it practically possible and within wikipedia policy to move this page to just "Twice"? Im of the view that typing Twice into wikipedia search should link one to this article. Apples&Manzanas (talk) 13:30, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Background on why the (group) part of the title exists: Talk:4L_(group)#Requested_move_29_November_2018. For policiy on disambiguation pages you can read Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Redalert2fan (talk) 17:35, 7 December 2019 (UTC)