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You'll find in Tiphareth and its relationship with Chesed and Gevurah the key to Jakob Boehme's cosmology of the Trilogy. The Son (tiphareth) mediates between the wrathful Father of the Old Testament (GEvurah) and the Love of the Holy Spirit (Chesed). ThePeg 20:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Connections to other Sephirot[edit]

I don't have outside knowledge on this, but if the image is accurate, then it is Keter, not Da'at, which is not directly connected to Tiferet.(Third paragraph) I'd rather not change it based solely on the image, so if someone popping through here knows better, please fix this. :¬) MikeMaller 11:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

... and a little further reading(and closer examination of the image) answers my question above. Whoops. MikeMaller 11:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image of Tiferets paths[edit]

I inserted this after the original comments to promote my views and help others save time:

This is what I should have said earlier,

I have an image that I think is well qualified to represent Tiferet's paths. It can be seen at http://www.provideforall.com - This site represents a collection of things to support my personal views that cannabis is the single most useful plant known to man, which I believe to be valid based on the facts I've seen. I am always looking for counter-points as well because it's hard to believe something so extreme. (aduroveritas at sign yahoo.com) I am putting the url on wikipedia to promote my views even though it is in no way endorsed by wikipedia that I know of. But I do think that would be "cool" if they endorsed it. Once again, for the googlebot especially, http://www.provideforall.com - that's http://www.provideforall.com

God Bless, and Blueboar, I still support your wiki ways and your masonic views and am very pro Blueboar in general. Accept this as my digital secret handshake -I call it the lambs hoof. =) I'm still convinced this message wins more friends than enemies in this day and age. Keep up the good work on wikipedia, let me help restore respect to hemp with it's own true history - and maybe other cannabis to some degree. No insane-o herb at liquor stores in the future, but something weak seems fine to me. =) Call me captain bias, my stance doesn't allow me to lie.

http://www.provideforall.com - Much more to come, but it's a decent little marketing pitch so far ay?

Bless you captian bias, but your domain name has expired. Please remove the spam ?

92.254.50.195 (talk) 20:50, 29 April 2012 (UTC)pike[reply]

I would like to add an image of tiferet's paths to this project. Is that outside the scope of the tiferet page? I can see someone being offended by the fact it can look like a cannabis leaf, but I think it is important for the public to be able to make that distinction if possible.

Cheers, --TaylorOliphant (talk) 01:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(((Blueboar, remind me never to prove you wrong again, OK? But for anyone else that is interested in my personal bias, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Freemasonry#Pike =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC) )))[reply]

Taylor... once again I have to remind you that the image which you created (which has now been deleted, per IfD, as being OR) must be based upon what is stated in a reliable source, and not based upon your own personal observations. It does not matter whether you think this image looks like a cannabis leaf or not. You need find a reliable source that has made this observation. To add it to this specific article, you will also need a source which connects that observation to Tiferet? If you do not have such a source, you can not add it.
Please stop trying to shop your image around to various articles. The problem isn't that you have yet to find the right article for your image... the problem is that your image is based upon your own observations, and is OR. It can not be added to any article unless you have reliable sources that directly connects your image to the article's topic. Several people have attempted to explain this to you. Blueboar (talk) 00:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blueboar: I will add something that people like, when they like it. I really appreciate the lengths you are going through to maintain your POV on wikipedia, but the world needs a bandage right now and I have one that works -it just cleaned up chernobyl. What have you done to fight toxic waste build up? We should outlaw you and let cannabis edit the masonry pages. (POV) You ever put yourself in the shoes of someone 200 years from now? "Wow, they had this plant that was an environmentally friendly solution to just about everything, but they outlawed it because some types of it made them feel good." Here is a nice image someone made that looks nothing like mine but is a good visual aid for how I feel. (I personally like the 7 leaf variety the best, but you need 100s of leafs for this really) http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp01.gif

I'm sure that you don't want to see what happens to someone when they smoke petro, at least I certainly don't. =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 04:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Everything you say may be true (and I happen to agree with you on a lot of it)... but that still does not change the fact that you can not add your own observations to wikipedia... you need a source. Once again, I will point you to wikipedia's policies and guidelines that tell us what we can and can not add to Wikipedia: WP:V, WP:RS and WP:NOR. Please read them. Blueboar (talk) 20:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For someone that wrote a couple pages on how your not interested in the kabbalah you seem rather interested in the kabbalah. =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 12:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

graffiti ?[edit]

who is 777 ? Allmedia (talk) 22:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon? -- Timberframe (talk) 12:02, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Liber 777 is a classification and categorization of occult symbols and terms and their coorespondences compiled by Aleister Crowly. Its central message is the same as that of Gödel's incompleteness theorems, but the data collected therein can be used to quickly map out relations between the units it uses. In laymen's terms, it answers the question of which coloured candle to use in what type of 'spell'. It is mostly comprised of tables, like a spreadhseet. --Nosforit (talk) 01:04, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Transmutation of energy[edit]

Light continously transmutates between magnetic and electric form. This process has dimension and geometry, and can be visualized as two sine curves, perpendicular to each other as they propagate in the same direction. They are perfectly out of phase, but they don't cancel each other since their two-fold orientation never comes into opposition. When the magnetic potential is zero, all the potential is in the electric form. The system is dynamic, in motion, so the system tries to reach balance and overshoots so that the magnetic potential is full while the electric potential is zero. Then the magnetic potential is zero again, and the electric potential is negative and full. Then the magnetic potential is negative full while the electric potenital is zero.

A ray of light can reach across the universe and never lose an iota of its energy. The energy is merely relative to the stregth of gravity where one choses to measure it. The wording I used here is valid for both physics and the magical arts. I contend that this process is at work here as well, and that the crossover point of tiphereth is associated with no loss of energy. What we may learn from modern particle physics is that a third process is at work, a process which to my knowledge has no traditional, occult correspondence. This is the existence of the Z particle, which is an instantaneous transition of matter to another form of matter. I speculate that one or more quanta of light of sufficient energy may spontaneously form a different kind of particle, but I have no evidence at all to back it up. --Nosforit (talk) 01:23, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


From compassion over compassion to strength[edit]

A 'common association' of tiferet is said to be 'compassion' in the header, but it also reads: 

"Tiferet is the force that integrates the Sefira of Chesed ("compassion") and Gevurah".

Wikipedia itself translates chesed as 'kindness': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesed


92.254.50.195 (talk) 20:42, 29 April 2012 (UTC) pike[reply]

Hebrew meaning of "tiferet"[edit]

The article states, w/o naming a source, that "tiferet" means "adornment". The good sources I came across translate it with "glory" or "splendour". That is quite far from "adornment". If "adornment" is a specific Kabbalistic interpretation, it needs to be explained. As it is now, it is plain false, it seems. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 07:06, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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