Talk:Tie-dye

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i have just picked my options and i have picked tecsitiles as a subject t sdudy in the years to come. at the momnet i am in year nine and in tecsitils i am curuntly doning a project on tie and dye and i am finding it very interesting but as i go to a welsh school i need to find information in welsh and it becoming inpossible to find welsh infomation and tie and dye (clymu a llifo) please can someone help me??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.23.57 (talk) 14:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

history in u.s. fashion?[edit]

i think that talking about the context in u.s. culture would be very helpful. i'm surprised this wasn't mentioned more.

And I think the late 80's and early 90's should be included as it was a fad during that time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.154.179.229 (talk) 05:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would edit myself, but I'm not really an expert on the cultural significance/fashion significance of tie-dye in the U.S., but I definitely agree this should be mentioned here. Voice99 (talk) 19:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spam[edit]

26/10/08 I removed a line that contained something about someone wanting to have sex at the begining of the article.

87.112.78.14 (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

08/09/09 Removed 'i hate this shit' from end of peace sign section.

Thaidye[edit]

Shameless advertisment. Text was even copied from a website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.152.168.81 (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Extra information found[edit]

I was browsing this article, when I came across a very large chunk of text, which hadn't been written properly, and probably by an unexperienced user. Can I ask anyone to review the below text, then insert it back into in the article coherently, because I don't know much about the subject:

Discussion Tie-dyeing is a technique used to add extra-bright coloring to clothes in a somewhat predictable pattern. Tie-dyeing works best on fabrics like cotton that greatly absorb the reactive dyes used. When dyes like fiber-reactive Procions are used, the vibrant colors last throughout many wash cycles and only fade when exposed to sunlight repeatedly. Using pigment dyes can work on synthetic fibers but can fade after the first wash. Regardless of which type of dye is used, soda ash (sodium carbonate) is sometimes added in order to increase the pH and give greater resistance to color fading. Cotton and linen fibers are cellulose-based (as is rayon, a manufactured fiber). Cellulose is the main component of plant cell walls—cotton fabric is made from cotton plants and linen is made from flax plants. Wool and silk are both animal-protein-based natural fibers. Wool is made from the hair of sheep, and silk is made from silkworm cocoons. Although dyes were originally made from natural sources, today's dyes are often synthesized (made) by chemists. By understanding how the molecules of dye react with the fibers, chemists can design many vibrant and color-fast (meaning the dyed color doesn't fade or run off when washed) dyes. When the dying process begins, fiber reactive dyes attach permanently to cellulose fibers using a covalent (electron-sharing) bond. These molecules carry a "chromophore" which absorbs varying spectrums of the light, allowing only certain spectrums to reflect. Covalent bonding is the one of the most basic and strongest types of chemical reactions. A covalent bond is a form of chemical bonding that is characterized by the sharing of pairs of electrons between atoms, or between atoms and other covalent bonds. In short, attraction-to-repulsion stability that forms between atoms when they share electrons is known as covalent bonding. This reaction happens gradually over time depending on temperature and/or the Ph level of the surrounding environment. In some methods, sodium carbonate is added to raise the pH level of the garment or fabric to approximately 10.5. Raising the pH level of the solution that the fabric or garment is soaked raises the level of negative hydrogen ions in the dyeing environment. This is done for the reason that covalency is greatest between atoms of similar electronegativities. The chemical bonding process uses these ions in the reaction to form a strong covalent bond. The reaction is aided with heat, which was why it was advisable to have the dye hot. Some dyers have had success with using baking soda and microwaving their dyed articles. Since baking soda is a weaker alkali than Soda Ash, it must be accompanied by heat. Some people who are "chemically sensitive" choose to use this method. The dye is allowed to react in a desirable host environment for up to 24 hours. After this time, the bonding sites on the cellulose should be saturated with dye molecules. In tie-dying, these chemical principles are used in order to make patterns. Cotton string, rubber bands, clothes pins, spring clamps, heavy duty thread, nylon fishing line, all can be used to tie sections of the garment or fabric into patterns. They all will act as resists, leaving areas un-dyed or under-dyed, creating a pattern or design which is usually repeated depending on how the garment is folded or scrunched. In this way, the parts of the fabric where the resists are located will remain in its original color due to the presence of an intrusion in the bonding of dye to fiber molecules. Conclusion Tie-dying is process is a fun and interesting experiment to conduct. Along with having a very cool and funky shirt to wear you will also gain first-hand knowledge on of the whole world’s most basic and useful chemical interaction, the covalent bond.

Applications Covalent bonds are found in numerous forms throughout different types of industry. A lot of chemicals used today are obtained due to covalent bonds. A great number of laboratory reagents consist of these bonds. For example, Hydrogen chloride is composed of diatomic molecules, each consisting of a hydrogen atom (H) and a chlorine atom (Cl) connected by a covalent single bond. Recently, the cost of amylase activity analysis was reduced because of this type of bond. A method was developed to analyze industrial alpha-amylase activity by using local red staining amylase tablets. It was made of bi-functional group active staining M-8B combined with potato starch through a covalent bond. Diamond is strong because it involves a vast network of covalent bonds between the carbon atoms in the diamond. As you can see a covalent bond has vast uses in different field of science. From the simple tie-dying process to the formation of a beautiful diamond, covalent bonds are all behind that.

Thanks. Tigernose (talk) 20:02, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revised the first sections – and want to add some better video and photo content[edit]

I've completely rewritten the first sections (up to History) to better describe the concepts of tie-dye as a process and a product. I also added a lot of text on dyes, fabrics, and discharge agents to add some technical value to the entry, which was previously very general. Added links to as many art dyers as I could find, and to sources with good information on techniques. Tried to avoid adding any large commercial sites, though most of the information pages and examples of high quality modern work is on sites with a commercial focus. I also added three classic books on batik and tie-dye. Next I hope to add some better pics, and, while I appreciate the appeal of the kids video of a very basic tie-dye project, I'd like to add a more professional video as well. Any suggestions for video would be welcome, as I don't want to make this page a site for promoting my own work. However, I'd like to at least get some better example dyes up, as the one shirt is fairly crude. Rfransom (talk) 01:45, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good! One thing I'd ask - how do you reconcile "modern term coined in the 1960s" with the 1909 article on "tied and dyed work" used as a source in the History section? Mabalu (talk) 19:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Tie-dye/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Needs references and pics of the process. Trend that hasn't completely gone away. Daniel Case 04:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 04:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 08:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Tie Style in Thailand’s Urban Community[edit]

This subsection is rife with spelling and grammatical errors, as well as having a style not consistent with Wikipedia.

I am no expert on tie-dyeing, but someone who is should take a look at this subsection and decide whether it merely needs a complete redo or whether it should just be entirely removed.Bh12 (talk) 18:53, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to be an expert to tell that this section is unencyclopaedic. I've removed it. --Viennese Waltz 05:38, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Bh12 (talk) 16:40, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

my question[edit]

how was tie-die started? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoodVibes1996 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a History section in this article. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 21:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The African history section needs help[edit]

This section could use some filling out. If nothing else, the Wikipedia article on the Nigerian tradition of adire should be linked. 108.41.227.62 (talk) 00:54, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]