Talk:Thousand Oaks, California/Archive 1

Archive 1

Cabrillo

• It later was discovered in 1542 by Spanish explorer Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo,...

What's our source for this? I'd never heard of Cabrillo going very far inland. Even if he had, "discovered" might not be the right word for the first sighting of a town that was founded in 400 years later. -Willmcw 20:52, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

• • City of T.O. web site: http://www.toaks.org/living/about/history/default.asp

"The City's history dates to the Chumash Native Americans who dwelled in the Conejo Valley hundreds of years ago. In 1542, the area was discovered by Spanish explorer Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo, who claimed the land for his Spanish king. The area remained virtually unsettled until the early 1800s when the Spanish governor granted 48,671 acres of land grants to loyal soldiers - land which included the Conejo Valley. (Conejo is the Spanish word for rabbit which are abundant in the area.)"

I think that's supposed to mean he discovered the Conejo Valley. I suppose the sentence could be reworded to not imply he discovered the city itself. --Howcheng 05:38, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I suspect that it may be a wishful view of history, but until proven otherwise it should stay. How about something like "Cabrillo visited the site in 1542?" -Willmcw 06:56, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I see you've already taken care of it. --Howcheng 15:39, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

TO-WLV Chamber of Commerce says you're right -- Cabrillo never made it this far inland, only landing at Pt Mugu. I've changed the paragraph to reflect that. --Howcheng 16:52, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your diligent research. -Willmcw 19:53, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

The Lakes

The lakes have been built, and the paragraph about its devolopment is not NPOV. I'm deleting it.--XAdHominemx 00:46, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Lead image

There have been a couple of edits to the lead image of this article. Standard practice for lead images of towns and cities is to be an image of the city's skyline. While TO doesn't have a particularly remarkable skyline, I would suggest something more than a typical street or a picture of one of the newer gateway walls. How about an image of the Civic Arts Plaza? Or an image of TO Blvd in Old Town? Even a picture of the crossroads of TO Blvd and Moorpark Rd would be good. —Malber (talk • contribs) 18:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the first image (the suburban street) was just a filler, as I threw that in when I put in the infobox (it's where I live). Yesterday, I shot the sign/tree one (which is at the corner of TO Blvd and Moorpark), but I'm not sure what a good vantage point would be for a TO Blvd/Moorpark intersection image. It would probably be best from the middle of the street facing north, but that might not be too safe. :) Where exactly is "Old Town" anyway? I've lived here since '99 and I'm not sure I've ever heard that term. I can try for the Civic Arts Plaza next weekend maybe. howcheng {chat} 18:58, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

"Old Town" is (or was) considered one of the oldest districts in the city. The section I'm refering to is the block on TO Blvd. between Hampshire Rd and Skyline Dr. There was an old line of shopping stores that had been there since the 1950s with old store front façade built before the coding that required everything be built in that fake spanish style that preserves zero heritage. But in looking at the Google maps satellite view I don't see them anymore. Pity. Guess the Civic Arts Plaza would be the best. I heard they had ice skating there this year. Pix of those would be great. —Malber (talk • contribs) 21:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, forgot to mention: A pic of the old Oakdale market would be great...if it still exists. —Malber (talk • contribs) 21:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

This discussion made me also think about what would work well for Westlake. Please see Talk:Westlake Village, California if you're interested. howcheng {chat} 01:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Header Paragraph

The geographical reference to the county line seems to confuse TO with WLV. TO is largely, if not entirely in Ventura County. I believe that WLV is bisected by the county line. I will research and clarifyLorenzoB 16:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

AFAIK, TO ends at the county line. The part of WLV that is on the Ventura side of the line is a district of TO. The part in LA County is its own town. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 17:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Correct, although the part of TO close to the county line likes to call itself WLV (must be more "upscale"). howcheng {chat} 19:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Well it is WLV, but a district of TO. The county line bisects The Island, but it doesn't matter because they believe they live on another planet. ;-) —Malber (talk • contribs) 19:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

If you want to get technical, WLV as a town (not necessarily as an incorporated city) is split between Ventura and LA Counties. Because you can't have an INCORPORATED city in two different counties, the city of WLV, according to the California state government, is in LA County, but only reflects half of what the town actually consists. The other half is within the city limits of Thousand Oaks, in Ventura County. T.O. itself actually ends at the county line and does not cross into LA County. I'm not too great at editing these pages so if someone wants to use this information and update the page, be my guest. If not, fine by me. :-D -- Progdrummer17 21:46, 08 February 2007 (UTC)

Fireworks Hill

Why is this item here? It feels like an entry in a middle school student's personal page. Mentioning the botanic garden is germane (pun NOT intended), however. BTW, isn't Tarantula Hill the one west of Los Robles Hospital?LorenzoB 05:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Tarantula Hill is the one across from Redwood Middle School, near the corner of Gainsborough and Camino Manzanas. -- Progdrummer17 21:54, 08 February 2007 (UTC)

Fireworks Hill is slightly north of The Oaks mall and I believe it may have a technical name (not sure though). I have been to the top of it and I do not believe they are the same. I am not sure if it is encyclopedic though...whereas Tarantula Hill is IMHO. StatsJunkie 19:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

methamphetamine comment is unsubstantiated opinion

"Nevertheless, in 2007, possibly due to a rise in methamphetamine use, incidents of home and vehicle burglary have dramatically increased"

This is not in the cited reference in the Acorn. The two neighborhoods cited are also radically different in terms of demographics, income, etc. I think you're just reporting a statistically insignificant anecdote. 137.79.6.96 22:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. The Acorn's Sheriff's Blotter is not a source for overall crime trends, but week-to-week activities. howcheng {chat} 04:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Cory Williams

He was recently removed from the notable persons list, but I replaced him because he is in fact a notable resident.UncleBobby629 (talk) 22:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC).