Talk:The Alamo (2004 film)

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Plot would help[edit]

I'm no major editor, but I think this would be the one section to most remove this from stub status. You could probably take a lot of info from the main Alamo battle article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Katana314 (talk • contribs) 00:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, I'd certainly like to see a plot segment here... I'm trying to write a review for a portfolio assignment! -- Luigifan using --71.232.202.59 16:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC) (Milford High School)[reply]

I just watched the movie and the final battle is shown to take place in the early morning, with the Mexican Army sneaking to attach the mission prior to sun-rise and the sun being completely up by the end of the battle. The line in the trivia portion should be removed.ESQ24 20:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still not accurate[edit]

Film leaves out not only that several different Mexican accounts tell of defenders being captured and executed-although not agreeing on the number of those killed-being anywhere from two to seven-but that a number of the Alamo Garrison tried to escape at the last minute but only to be cut down by mexican Cavalry; lastly the film has Crockett last words being that he was a "Screamer"; in fact de la Peña's account reports that those died did so did cry out while being struck with swords but without "disgracing themselves".
The film also implies that Crockett was known to the Mexican Army-yet with the possible exception of De La Pena who possibly wrote his account years later-there is little evidence that Crockett was well known outside the United States. In fact after the battle Santa Anna had to have the bodies of Travis; Bowie and Crockett pointed out to him!
Travis and Bowie-They had a "joint command" Travis comanding the "Regualar" Texas Army and Bowie the Volunteers-until Bowie became too ill and Travis became de facto garrison commander-after Travis lost a vote to deterime who was going to be the over-all commander; there is no evidence that Bowie and Travis were going to engage in a knife duel however}. .
Likewise the film fails to tell of the fate of the Fannin's Goliad garrison-who after a brief battle were captured and killed.
The film does distinguish between the legendary "Davy Crockett" aka Colonel "Nimrod Wildfire" and the real David Crockett. Travis slave "Joe" fate is left ambigious-showing him only in a small room after Travis death clutching Travis saddlebags and repeating in Spanish that he was a negro and not to shoot; in fact he was slightly wounded/captured but released with Mrs. Dickerson and her daugther by Santa Anna-who are only shown in the movie as being in the Chapel; furthermore several of the Mexican women and children shown as being the Chapel were also released. In a latter scene a Mexican courier was captured by Sam Houston's forces-and although not shown on screen, Travis saddlebags were found at this time.
In regard to Jim Bowie death the film implies Bowie was killed in one of the rooms of the chapel; in fact Bowie was reportably killed in a small room near the Main {South} gate of the Alamo.
The Remains of the Alamo garrison were cremated; the fim shows the bodies being gathered up but not their disposition —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.53.145.126 (talk) 21:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Find reliable sources for this information, cite them appropriately, and write it in encylcopedic style (proper spelling, grammar, capitalization, etc.), and then add it if you wish. Ward3001 (talk) 21:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Davy Crockett's death.[edit]

The article says the scene depicting Davy Crockett's death drew criticism from some historians. Actually, Mexican accounts do indeed say Crockett surrendered and was later executed.97.73.64.146 (talk) 00:26, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Last Command 1955[edit]

Probably "The Last Command" should be mentioned (in the "See Also" section). John Wayne was originally slated to act, direct and produce the movie battle of the Alamo called "The Last Command" for Republic but Herbert Yates wouldn't let Wayne produce and direct so Sterling Hayden was chosen instead and the "The Last Command" was made in 1955. --Many consider this to be the best Alamo movie. Wayne subsequently made his own Alamo movie in 1960, using many of the elements from "The Last Command". So there's a triolgy of Alamo movies, actually four movies if you count Disney's "Davy Crockett". Plus I think there were also two made-for-tv Alamo movies. 50.202.81.2 (talk) 00:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Slingblade[edit]

The scene where Davy Crockett is telling about eating potatoes that were cooked in the grease of dead Indians--is this a sly reference to his movie "Slingblade" where the character is always talking about eating taters? "Taters, hmmm...." 50.202.81.2 (talk) 13:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of San Jacinto location[edit]

The article specifies that Houston "halts his retreat near the San Jacinto River (north of the future site of the city of Houston)." Actually, the site of the battle at the confluence of the San Jacinto River and the Buffalo Bayou -- and the site of the San Jacinto Monument -- are southeast of Houston in the city of La Porte, Texas.Chrismykrantz (talk) 19:11, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]