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Vital Statistics

I'm pretty sure Taz is not as tall as 5'9". Anybody got any good links?(Halbared 13:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC))

Yeah, he's definitely not 5'9". He's about 3-4 inches shorter than Jerry Lawler. Tazz is about the same height as Joey Styles.

Name

I am of the understanding that when Tazz came to WWE, Time Warner forced him to add the second "z" because his ECW spelling was the same as one of their cartoon characters. Can someone clarify this for me? Thanks. --JFred 17:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Time Warner forced him and WWE to do it, but I know that WWE wouldn't want to risk a law suit so I think they would have change his name anyways. TJ Spyke 21:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

And by the looks of it, they are gonna keep the Tazz spelling even though he is now part of ECW again. --JFred 04:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
That was my understanding (the added "z") as well. To keep it separate from the Looney Tunes' Tasmanian Devil. Though a citation may be in order. --EazieCheeze 09:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Commentary

I notice that in this article, it doesn't say anything about how Tazz became a full-time commentator after he stoped wrestling for a while. Does anyone know how it happened? MB 05:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Can someone put upa picture of him as taz! like mabey a picture of him at one night stand 2005 TheRealHBK

Question

Sorry for asking stupid questions. But was Taz Heel or Face in ECW? Emilos 15:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)emilos

He was both at varying points. Bmg916 Speak to Me 15:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Current Location

According the Massapequa article on Wikipedia, apparently he currently resides in Massapequa, New York which is on Long Island. Is that a true statement? If it is it should be added to this page or if its false it should be removed from the other page. Julie 00:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

It is a true statement. I added it. 24.191.99.78 04:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)24.191.99.78

Thanks! Julie 04:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

1995 Injury

I think there is some confusion about his 1995 neck injury, perhaps due to exaggeration on the part of ECW at the time and Taz himself. The injury in question took place on July 20, 1995, in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Taz returned on September 16, 1995, in a six-man tag team match teaming with the Steiner Brothers against The Eliminators and Jason Knight. His first singles match back was on October 5, 1995. I don't know the true nature of the injury, but I'm fairly certain that he could not have recuperated a broken neck in two months time. Also, he had already dropped the Tazmaniac "wildman" gimmick before the injury. I updated the paragraph in question with what I believe to be correct. —The preceding comment was added by NakedRedneck (talk • contribs) 10:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

You cannot update or edit something with what you "believe to be correct" all material is not based on what someone thinks they remember. It needs to be cited by a reputable independent published source. Please read WP:A, WP:V, and WP:BLP. Bmg916SpeakSign 14:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Fine, but why revert to the old edit? I would like to see cited references for his being out for "over nine months." I actually did do some research on the matter, but the problem is finding a "reputable source" for that information other than some random web site of match listings. Is it really better to leave obviously inaccurate information in the article? 68.159.209.34 21:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Tap Out

I've heard from numerous sites and sources, including Joey Styles commentary at Vengeance 2007, that Tazz was the first man to make people tap out to indicate a submission. Is this true, and if so should it be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.82.153 (talk) 04:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Son's name

Does anyone know the name of Tazz's son? Thanks.MgHoneyBee 03:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

did you know his brother the accomplished musician(keyboardist)of "Heart and Soul" and ultra supportive of the man "TAZZ" on his way up is "HERMAN SENERCHIA III". HERMAN is the keyboard champion of long island! you betta recognize sucka! -anthony and chris of long island —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.14.43 (talk) 21:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Release

PWInsider's reporting that Tazz's contract expires today and WWE has opted not to renew it. I edited this into the article under the Commentating section, but if PWInsider is not an acceptable source go ahead and revert it or whatever needs to be done. Th 2005 (talk) 16:13, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I got a source from figure 4, im sure wikipedia allow that source?--Ruthless-paki (talk) 20:54, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

See WT:PW#Heads up regarding Tazz.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 21:04, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

can't we wait too sunday too see if it true remember WWE have been putting out fake Information Supermike (talk) 1 —Preceding undated comment added 02:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC).

Tazz is the one who opted not to renew--208.118.200.168 (talk) 03:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)xion
With the slight yet important factor that WWE has not announced anything or the sort today, nor has there been any word from "Tazz". Hearsay, anyone? ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 02:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

But is that true that what Im saying for all we know he could be coming out as a wrestler at the PPV to wrestle Y2J Supermike (talk) 02:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Basically, unless it comes from WWE and only WWE, wikipedia doesn't allow it. 99.23.75.38 (talk) 01:39, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

- And I've got a source saying RVD is resigning with WWE and Undertaker vs HBK will take place in a Triple Cage match like Ready to Rumble. Please note the date and that not one of the above has come from WWE which has no problem announcing releases of superstars. Frankly, every single post everyone has said is shown is nothing short of Hearsay. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 02:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok what does anything you just say have to do with Tazz Supermike (talk) 02:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Every major wrestling news site is reporting this. It's legit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.213.39.242 (talk) 12:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

No its not remember these are the same website that said Benoit murder his family or that John cena was getting married Supermike (talk) 02:38, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Not only has every major site reported it, but now WWE.com moved his section to WWE Alumni.

He still on the smackdown page Supermike (talk) 02:38, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

13?

What the hell does 13 mean for Tazz ? It's in his video entrance and on his Ts... why ?! Talon Kelson 00:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

It's based on nothing more than defiance of the number as 'unlucky' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.217.229 (talk) 16:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

What does this even mean?!

"During the recording of the April 29, 2008 episode of ECW, Tazz's broadcast partner Mike Adamle abruptly walked off set prior to the main event. Moments later, after reading the promo for the upcoming pay-per-view, Tazz walked out as well, leaving the main event with no commentators."

Kayfabe? Real? And most importantly... what does this paragraph even mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.172.85 (talk) 03:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It happened, I watched that episode, however, I'm still not sure if it was real or kayfabe. Crash Underride 13:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

TNA Wrestling

Need some references to expand this article, in particular quotes from Taz, or links to official/associated websites (such as facebook) in which Taz has written information.

We need to be a little more clear on the TNA Wrestling section. I have edited down to remove speculation, rather than just remove the section altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.30.125.189 (talk) 16:07, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to remove the current paragraph, because what it says isn't incorrect. And we all know Taz will be debuting at Victory Road, etc, etc...however in my "wiki-judgment" (based on wiki-policies, etc.) the current paragraph still seems speculative in nature (because the video didn't directly show Taz or explicitly state he was coming to the company). It also makes his article seem more like a news or wrestling news site as opposed to an encyclopedia article. Let's be honest, one video on the TNA facebook page that shows he is more than likely coming to the company is not notable in his overall career. I can, however, see using this information as a segue to the information about his debut after it happens. Bmg916Speak 15:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
No source he actually signed. The video never says Taz. It is speculation still.--WillC 15:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
It's nothing but speculation. The source (can that even be confirmed to be an official Facebook page of TNA?) does not say anything specifically about Tazz, so it doesn't go here. If they started saying "Brother!" and "Say Your Prayers", would we put that on Hulk Hogan's page? IF Tazz ends up in TNA, then maybe those could be mentioned. I see no reason for there to be any reference to TNA (at least yet). TJ Spyke 15:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Seeing as the Facebook page is linked from TNAWrestling.com, yeah, it's official. Check it out sometime. Mshake3 (talk) 17:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok I guess that then it's settled, we will wait until his debut to add this information to his profile. But I do think of it as a cop out. 114.30.125.189 (talk) 12:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

It was revealed on July, 16,2009 episode of TNA Impact with a promo when Samoa Joe coming down to the ring that Taz is coming TNA because of the FTW 13 in the entrance video . At Victory road 2009 it will be revealed the mystery advisor of Samoa Joe is Taz .

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. We will add it after he debuts. Bmg916 (talk) 03:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

cole and TAZZ

Good night!

that have a picture of michael cole and Tazz on the table commnateur?

Tranck you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.12.204.197 (talk) 19:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Peter Senerchia

Should this article be moved to Peter Senerchia and the Tazz entry redirect to it? The naming standard tends to lend towards naming the article according to the wrestler's real name. --EazieCheeze 01:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

it used to but the naming convention goes to the name he is mostly known by and in this case he has been called Tazz for nearly ten years --- Paulley
Uh, Billy Kidman, Rey Mysterio, Rhyno - click on those and you'll see why there's something wrong with your argument. DonMEGĂ60645Talk|Contribs 14:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
if you look until articles are put up for a vote to be moved they stay on real names... as for Mysterio the new spelling has only been used in WWE and the old spelling is used for his farther -- Paulley 12:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In reference to Mysterio, that would be his uncle. This article should no longer be under "Tazz" though. It should be under Taz, with one Z. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.159.1 (talk) 04:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

His name is not Danny Figueroa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100E:B007:D1D:128F:DE8D:7C36:7097 (talk) 21:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

The Taz Show: Bodyslams & Beyond(2015–present)

Looks like someone who works for the show, maybe Taz himself, made a very non-Wikipedia like edit to this article that should definitely be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.68.192 (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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Should this page either be moved to Taz or his real name?

He's in TNA, known as Taz again like in his ECW days, he probably shouldn't be listed under his WWE trademarked name Tazz anymore.76.226.137.95 (talk) 23:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Now that he's in AEW using his ECW name "Taz", he shouldn't be listed under his WWE name since it's trademarked. In addition, his Twitter handle is @OfficialTAZ. It makes sense to change the title to Taz. Jwjones967 (talk) 03:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Request to change article name to "Taz"

Taz (with one z) is the official spelling of his name, it's the original spelling and it's the current spelling that he goes by in AEW. It was temporarily changed when he went to WWE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.74.165.50 (talk) 02:36, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 18 July 2021

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– Taz with one Z is the official spelling of his name. It is the name he is most commonly known by. It was temporarily changed to "Tazz" with 2 Zs I believe because WWE wanted to own the copyright for the name so he went by that name during his tenure with them. However, he has not worked with them for years. Has not gone by "Tazz" for years and the name of the article should properly refer to the name that he goes by. Every single mention of his name within the article uses the one Z spelling. The article name should be changed to Taz.

I don't think this is a controversial move so I would appreciate if someone would just move the article for me. I don't have an account so I don't have the rights to do it myself. Thanks in advance.174.74.165.50 (talk) 02:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Note: Taz titles a page with significant content and so is ineligible to be a target "new" title in a move request unless it is also included to be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 03:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose this suggestion there is no evidence that the wrestler is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term Taz and I see the number of entries in the dab page page Taz I highly doubt there is any. I could see a case for Taz (wrestler) though.--70.24.249.16 (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This article is not the primary topic for "Taz". As per IP above, I would recommend changing the request to Taz (wrestler). 162 etc. (talk) 17:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Close this request out please. Change the request to Taz (wrestler) 174.74.165.50 (talk) 07:23, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
  • I would agree with Taz (wrestler) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 08:37, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Move to Taz (wrestler). The nominator makes a strong case for preferring the Taz spelling, but the wrestler doesn't seem to be the primary topic for the term (for the month of March, its link on the dab page Taz received the most clicks – 232, but there were other articles with significant traffic too: 171 for the Looney Tunes character, 65 for Die Tageszeitung, etc.). – Uanfala (talk) 15:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Move to Taz (wrestler). per above In ictu oculi (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Move to Taz (wrestler) per above; this is almost non-controversial enough to justify an early close. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 22:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I don’t think it should be controversial. The three oppose votes (mine and the two postersbellow me) were opposing the original suggestion of Taz and in fact we all recommended switching to the current proposal of Taz (wrestler) meaning they aren’t relevant to the current proposal.--70.24.249.16 (talk) 03:42, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Someone change the article to Taz (wrestler) then

The point I was making is that his name is Taz with one Z and not two. The article is incorrectly titled. If you have to change it to Taz (wrestler) and not Taz then just do it. Unless you want to make wikipedia into a job, nobody has time to learn all the intricacies or rules of the site. Delete my request to change the article to Taz and make it a request to change to Taz (wrestler). 174.74.165.50 (talk) 07:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

As I said, I support the change to Taz (wrestler) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Nevermind the opposes above, the discussion seems to be moving towards consensus for the title Taz (wrestler). Once seven days have passed since you started it (i.e. on 25 July, plus a day or two more as there's a backlog), someone will come to "close" the discussion and enact the consensus. Don't worry about the procedures and process, there's bureaucracy here, but it's not that bad. – Uanfala (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Requested move 16 December 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Though supporters of the move pointed out that the "Tazz" spelling would serve as natural disambiguation, the consensus is that "Taz" is the wrestler's WP:COMMONNAME, since he currently uses it and has used it for the majority of his career. WP:NAMECHANGES also bolstered the argument in favor of retaining the current name. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Taz (wrestler) → Tazz – Senerchia performed as "Tazz" for nine years with the World Wrestling Federation; this represents his period of greatest national exposure. "Tazz" is preferable over "Taz (wrestler)" giving the principle that "Natural disambiguation that is unambiguous, commonly used, and clear is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation". McPhail (talk) 10:39, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support as nominator - the argument made for the move in July was that "Taz with one Z is the official spelling of his name. It is the name he is most commonly known by." The first point is of questionable relevance and the second has not been evidenced. In the absence of evidence, the natural disambiguation should be used. McPhail (talk) 10:39, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Per WP:NAMECHANGES, we should prefer his current name, and he hasn't used "Tazz" since 2009. 162 etc. (talk) 15:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - most commonly used with the double Z. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:20, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per Jim Ross at the 2000 Royal Rumble. And per nomination. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:43, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Senerchia adopted the name "Taz" in 1995, 26 years ago. For 9 years out of 26 years he was "Tazz", but for the majority 17 years it has been "Taz". He is presently Taz, and the stable Team Taz follows suit in its spelling. The nominator has cited Senerchia's time with WWE as giving prominence to the Tazz spelling, however, Senerchia has appeared for ECW, TNA/Impact and AEW as "Taz", and each of those promotions had (and have) national television exposure as well during his time with them, so one may argue that "Taz" has been equally prominent, and for a longer length of time. As 162 etc. noted, Senerchia has not been "Tazz" in 12 years. I'm not sure which specific Wikipedia policy page contains it, but I understand that we lend weight to what name is currently in usage by the subject of the article. For example, this was a factor in the recent article name change of "Daniel Bryan" to "Bryan Danielson" and "Rusev" to "Miro (wrestler)". In the case of the latter, I will note that this switched a direct article name to an article name which would have to be shared with other disambiguations, so it seems to be the case that avoiding disambiguation is not of particular importance. CeltBrowne (talk) 23:49, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
    • I'd suggest that Taz/Tazz is effectively the same name, just with slightly different spellings (c/f "AJ Styles" vs "A.J. Styles"). McPhail (talk) 10:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per CeltBrowne. He hasn't used the two-Z spelling in over a decade, and it was a minority of his lengthy career both as a wrestler and as a commentator/manager. The one-Z version is much more his common name. oknazevad (talk) 16:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose no evidence given that a name from 20 years ago is the current WP:COMMONNAME. — Czello 08:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Maybe as Tazz he wrestled for WWF, but it was 10 years ago (left in 2009). Since then, he worked for TNA (had national TV and good numbers) and currently he works with AEW (huge numbers). So, the current name is also the common name. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:24, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. QuietHere (talk) 23:53, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support It's essentially the same name and this one has natural disambiguation.LM2000 (talk) 10:55, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment WP:QUALIFIER says: Natural disambiguation: Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title. Do not, however, use obscure or made-up names. This, per the policy, is preferable to any other form of disambiguation. So while Taz may be more used than Tazz, Tazz is a) natural disambiguation, and b) not parenthetical. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per CeltBrowne.  oncamera  (talk page) 12:56, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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