Talk:Supreme Court of Ireland

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Dissenting Opinions;

In Norris a two dissenting opinions were handed down on the constitutionality of a pre 1937 stature (Offences against the Person Act).

In Crotty the Supreme Court handed down a single judgement on the substantive provisions of the European Communities (Amendment) Act, but gave differing opinions on the constitutionality of the prospective ratification.

No dissenting opinions may be given for post 1937 statutes, referred bills and acts (Articles 34.4.5 and 26.2.2).

But dissenting opinions may be given for pre 1937 statutes (Article 50, liberal application of)

And dissenting opinions may be given other governmental actions (Nothing in constitution to preclude this)


Number of Judges

Why say that there are seven ordinary members of the supreme court and go on to list eight?


Supra-national Courts

This reference is confused (the International Criminal Court???), out of place and wrong anyway. The ECHR can't reverse decisions of the Supreme Court.


Important Rulings

These seem a bit random and don't list important dcisions. Articles 2 and 3 reference was of marginal importance and is old hat now. No reference (other than my own recent additions) is made to doctrine of unenumerated rights or natural law.


General

Composition is repeated in introduction.

No reference is made to the fact that the High Court also exercises judicial review.

Or distinuishing between judicial review of legislative acts, and judicial review of adminstartive and judicial acts.

Caveat lector 18:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mode of Address[edit]

Last week RTE reported that the mode of address to judges of the Superior Courts will change. Apparently the Chief Justice has abolished the old titles used in courts and from now on a judge will simply be known in court as "Judge". Cannot find any details on www.courts.ie, so here is the RTE report SMIL stream file. The report is 2 minutes and 15 seconds and requires an audio player capable of playing RealAudio files. Not sure what effects this will have in written reports or outside the court, but worth keeping in mind. Djegan 12:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Managed to find a written reference: Put simply my lord, you're just a judge. Demiurge 12:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • There was an article in the Irish Times about this too [1]. It affects all courts other than the District Court judges (who are already called "judge"). It said that addressing them in the third person wouldn't change, so we can keep with "Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms Justice X". Caveat lector 18:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page name[edit]

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I would propose altering the page name from Supreme Court of Ireland to Supreme Court (Ireland). This would

  1. be consistent with High Court (Ireland) and Court of Appeal (Ireland)
  2. be consistent with the name used in the Constitution and in legislation. This is in contrast to the longer title, Supreme Court of Justice, used in the The Courts of Justice Act, 1924.

William Quill (talk) 09:11, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Supreme Court of Ireland is the proper name see [2]. Also, it is a standardised naming convention like Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, Supreme Court of the United States and the vast majority of Supreme Courts in Category:National supreme courts. Snappy (talk) 16:20, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Constitutional rights of unborn case?[edit]

I'd like to add today's ruling to the significant cases section but I cannot find the name of the case. Since it was dealing with a High Court case it will probably be listed under that case name? AugusteBlanqui (talk) 11:42, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's on the supreme court website now so I added it. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 12:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sharing of sovereignty?[edit]

Sovereignty is defined as, 'absolute power or control.' How exactly can 'sharing sovereignty' be possible with a foreign court? Especially when 'european', (actually european Union or a court that a european union country has to be part of) law is superior to Irish law (as defined as such since the 1970s)? So the concept is either mistaken, or, actually a lie. 81.98.18.26 (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia articles as part of a randomized controlled trial[edit]

There has been an academic study which uploaded 77 articles on Irish Supreme Court cases and left another 77 similar cases without articles in order to study the impact of Wikipedia on citations: Thompson, Neil and Luo, Xueyun and McKenzie, Brian and Richardson, Edana and Flanagan, Brian, User-Generated Content Shapes Judicial Reasoning: Evidence From a Randomized Control Trial on Wikipedia (January 18, 2023). Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=4327890 or http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.4327890 2A00:23C6:148A:9B01:C062:424B:3143:7FAF (talk) 01:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]