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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:28, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Stope, Slovenia → Stope — No dab necessary. Stope is currently a redirect to Stopes.~~ — H3llkn0wz ▎talk 21:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Made Stope the main disambiguation page, redirected Stopes to Stope. Leave Stope, Slovenia where it is.— H3llkn0wz ▎talk 15:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Can see no reason for Stope to be a redirect to Stopes. If the redirect is considered important, it can always be dealt with by a hatnote. Skinsmoke (talk) 03:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- 'Comment why not? It contains two values for "Stope" 70.29.208.247 (talk) 04:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Reply Er, no it doesn't. It contains two values for Stopes and one, this one, for Stope. And one of the values for Stopes is actually under Stoping. Skinsmoke (talk) 16:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - No, a stope, see the contents of the article stoping; "stopes" is the plural form. It contains two values for "stope". 70.29.208.247 (talk) 04:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - The Stopes indeed contains two values for Stope - mining stope and city Stope. However, city is a recent addition, hence the discussion. — H3llkn0wz ▎talk 13:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I put a DAB hatnote at the top of Stope, Slovenia which should be enough to remove ambiguity if this move is carried out. However, stope (mining) might be the primary topic even if it doesn't have an article of its own (cf. Siam, Danzig). — AjaxSmack 11:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I do not see stoping (mining) splitting off stope (mining) any time soon; so there is no need now for disambiguating this page. Hatnote here will do fine.— H3llkn0wz ▎talk 12:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Even if stope is not split from stoping, it still could be a primary topic or at least more important than Stope, Slovenia. No arguments are presented in the nomination as to the relative importance of either. Also, check out WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: "For some terms with primary topics the title of the primary topic article may differ from the term itself (as when the article covers a wider topical scope...). In this case the term should redirect to the article (or a section of it)." — AjaxSmack 11:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - There is no primary topic here, because primary topic is pretty much unambiguously deterministic. Obviously it is not in this case, as both topics are notable. So, shouldn't the dab page be at the Stope and Stopes redirect to Stope? Plural form was only preferred because majority of uses were plural. Now two main articles are in singular form. I agree that Stope, Slovenia can live where it is now, if Stope becomes the the disambiguation page. — H3llkn0wz ▎talk 13:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Moving the dab page from Stopes to Stope is an option too but a dab page is not even really necessary for only two topics. However, with the existence of the "Stopes" entry, it makes it more attractive. You're the nominator, so you can decide if you want to alter your nomination. I'm opposed to neither proposal. — AjaxSmack 14:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I altered my nomination. I don't think one is allowed to non-admin close discussions one has participated in though. I'm also unaware if requests can be cancelled or otherwise withdrawn, I assume they can't.— H3llkn0wz ▎talk 15:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        You can do anything you want to it (WP:BOLD). Just leave it open and see if more discussants weigh in. — AjaxSmack 04:24, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support disambiguation not needed. —innotata 18:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I can go along with the revised proposal. Skinsmoke (talk) 03:25, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Mining, including stoping, is more important than an obscure village in Slovenia. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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