Talk:St Kilda Football Club/GA1

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Reviewer: The C of E (talk · contribs) 17:34, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


I will review this within the next few days. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:34, 14 January 2022 (UTC) Here is my review[reply]

  • Are they at any point ever referred to as "Saint Kilda"?
No, St Kilda has never been referred to this way. As stated, they're named after the suburb specifically, not a Saint. (It is however, a common misconception.)
  • Is there a way of distinguishing the 2 VFLs in the lead as per WP:PTM?
What I've done is state the transition for both, which should hopefully clear it up?
There is! It's even used later in the article, thanks for the pick-up!
  • Was there a time when St Kilda split from University?
Yes, but it's not known. University later joined the VFL separately, so we know the two split, but we don't have a date - hence the usage of briefly to indicate it was not permanent.
  • The association with Germany's colours should be clarified (was it because their colours were the same as the German flag at the time?)
    • Also, when did they return to their original colours and why?
Yes, it was. I've added some clarification for you. They returned to the colours in 1922 - the reasoning isn't ever stated however. I can guess it's because the war was over, but without a source no why should be given, obviously. What I've done is rather than list the date, as it would disrupt the section flow, I've used "temporarily" to indicate it wasn't permanent. The information is also available under the uniform evolution section.
  • In the 2nd paragraph in 1974, consistency is needed with the dollars as per WP:$
Done!
  • Why was the VFL renamed the AFL?
Is this particularly relevant to the article? By all accounts if it was I'd add it - but at least in my opinion, it's merely needed to inform the viewer that of the point when the competition's name changed. The explanation as to why can be left to the competition's page, which is hyperlinked.
Done!
  • Guernsey needs to be linked at first mention
Done!
  • the "Uniforms" subsection paragraphs are unsourced
I've been tossing this up. I understand where you're coming from, but this doesn't seem like this falls under the requirements of something that "has" to be sourced. It's also surprisingly hard to find a source which describes it in words.
  • First line of Logos is unsourced
Going to ask for clarification here before I edit too much - do you mean the first line in the section, or the first line of the subsequent paragraph?
First line of the section @Empole1: The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:35, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, addressed. What I've done is make it a more broad neutral statement that serves as an overview rather than a specific one that needs a reference. It's still unreferenced, but the wording change should be fine. @The C of E: Empole1 (talk) 07:24, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "When The Saints Go Marching In" and "I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" should be wikilinked. Also the "Club song" section could easily be merged into 1 paragraph
Done!
  • Soccer or rugby shouldn't be capitalised
Done!
  • In reserves, does St Kilda still keep its affiliation with Sandringham? Article says 2019 so ideally this should be updated to clarify if its still current.
Updated as suggested! Glad you picked this up, the reference didn't have the information regardless.
  • Apparrel sponsors need full sourcing
No can do, I'm afraid. Whilst I know what they are, any publications making note of this have been lost to the sands of time. As a result, I've done my best to list out the sponsors I can get resources for.
  • Why has St Kilda got a strong following with Jewish supporters?
No idea. Doesn't seem to have been looked into by an outside source, just something that is the case.
  • Is there a source for the Hall of Fame?
Yes, it's actually in the paragraph. I can add it to the template if you'd like?
  • Reference 1, Title needs correcting
There doesn't seem to be an error here? If you could elaborate, that'd be great.
  • Reference 45, AFL same as other sources using AFL needs to be consistent across the article.
Fixed! They're all lower case 'afl' in the website links now.
  • References 68 and 69, ABC consistency needed
Done! One was a cite web rather than a cite news template.
  • Reference 117, needs an accessdate
Added! Twas an easy find!
  • In the vast majority of references, italics should only be used for printed sources (newspapers etc.)
I don't think that's the case? Most of these would've been done using the autocomplete function Wikipedia has for references, so by all means this should be ok. If you look at the source, the Italics are applied automatically to the "website url" parameter.
There we go @The C of E:! I've done most thing that you've asked, but I've also left comments on each of your notes, so you can address each note individually if needbe. Thanks for undertaking the review. by the way. Much appreciated! Empole1 (talk) 10:43, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK @Empole1:, I think that's good to go for GA. Congratulations! The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:27, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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