Talk:St. Peter's Bridge

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If the bridge is named after the neighborhood of Šempeter, I would keep it as the Šempeter Bridge because suburbs and neighborhoods like Rožna dolina (literally, 'rose valley'), Šentvid (literally, 'Saint Vitus'), etc. are not translated. However, if the bridge is named for St. Peter's Church, then St. Peter's Bridge would be appropriate. I don't have a source, but I assume that the bridge was named after the neighborhood, not the church. Doremo (talk) 13:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the neighbourhood as well as the barracks in the vicinity (sv. Peter iz kasarne)[1] were named after the St. Peter's Parish. I'm not sure though and will look for further sources. For example, this page[2] constantly uses the form St. Peter's (for the embankment and the street). --Eleassar ^{my talk} 18:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page[3] states: "Across the river from Poljane is Šemtpeter - the parish of St. Peter, one of the city's earliest suburbs which boasts the oldest church in Ljubljana - St. Peter's«, which I think makes the case that the bridge is named after the parish. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 18:50, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The neighborhood of Šempeter was certainly named after the church (just like Šentvid and Šmartno), as you point out. The question of the bridge's namesake parallels the issue of Šmartinska cesta → Smartno Street (not St. Martin Street) and Šentviški predor → Šentvid Tunnel (and not Saint Vitus Tunnel). In the case of Šentjakobski most → St. James's Bridge the bridge does appear to be named after the church. But I don't know the answer in the case of Šempeterski most. Doremo (talk) 20:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

At least according to this page, published by LUZ (Urbanistic Institute of Ljubljana) and the City Municipality of Ljubljana, which gives it at least some credibility, "there have been attempts at naming it Šempetrski most (“St. Peter’s Bridge” ) after the Church of St. Peter." --Eleassar ^{my talk} 09:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good enough for me, unless we find something more authoritative. Native-speaker intuition counts for something in these matters. Doremo (talk) 17:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]