Talk:Son-Rise: A Miracle of Love

Son-Rise: A Miracle of Love was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
March 9, 2009	Good article nominee	Not listed

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New page[edit]

I added this page, and need all the help I can get.
Thanx! ATC (talk) 04:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citations for use[edit]

Sources are indeed limited for this. Here's what I've come up with so far, unfortunately little that will result in a huge expansion:

"Son Rise: A Miracle of Love (1979)". Variety. Reed Business Information. Retrieved 2009-02-17. — Variety page that gives runtimes, cast list, production companies and airdate.
John J. O'Connor (1979-05-14). "TV: 'Son-Rise,' About Autistic Child". New York Times. Retrieved 2009-02-17. — release date: the film was first broadcast on NBC-TV on May 14, 1979.
"The Humanitas Prize: Past Winners (90 minute category)". www.humanitasprize.org. Retrieved 2009-02-17. — won the 1980 Humanitas Prize.
"Son Rise A Miracle Of Love Is A True-life Tale Of Courage". St. Petersburg Times. Times Publishing Company. 1980-07-30. winner of the prestigious 1980 Humanitas Prize — supporting cite from secondary source.
"A Miracle of Love". The Prescott Courier. Western News & Info. 1980-07-25. — film was the winner of the 1980 Christopher Award.
"Unto the Third Generation". The Bryan Times. Brown Publishing Company. 1979-05-03. — filmed in California. Twins (Michael and Casey Adams—great grandsons of King Vidor) were likely cast because strict California labour laws limited the number of hours in which children could film per day. Using twins for a single role allows filming to last twice as long.

It may well be that in the long run the film article and the book article will be better suited to sharing a page, especially given that the content of this article is so far predominately about the book. In the meantime, you could do worse than to look at what the Google News archive search turns up. I'm unable to access most of those without paying, unfortunately, but there does seem to be some verifiable information out there about this film, including several reviews in the mainstream press. Anything else I come up with, I'll post to this page. Steve ^{T • C} 22:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the intervention program's official website is [1]. Regarding the book and film, the problem is that their were film cast and crew with the infobox and the book doesn't. Also, the title's differ a drop. The book is a lot more descriptive and some stuff have been twisted around a bit since it's a docudrama. From what your saying their is a Son-Rise article about the therapy program and everything else. Should we just use that as the wiki article source or should we have both? Because if you would like this to be the source for the article, we would have to change the title. The book was called Son-Rise, but in '79 the film premiered as a television movie, then in '94 it was updated, renaming it to Son-Rise: The Miracle Continues. If you would want to use the book would we rename the article's title Son-Rise (book) (since theirs the therapy article) or Son-Rise: The Miracle Continues. ATC •^Talk 22:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The only two that would be good would be the one with the boys who played Raun are the great grandchildren of King Vidor for production or cast, and the Humanitas Prize. I am going to continue to look. I'll look at the Son-Rise Program's official website. ATC •^Talk 23:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to look into buying the article to support the reference John J. O'Connor (1979-05-14). "TV: 'Son-Rise,' About Autistic Child". New York Times. Retrieved 2009-02-17. — release date: the film was first broadcast on NBC-TV on May 14, 1979. and confirm when I do, and I'll reference from the information that I see.

ATC^{. Talk} 22:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I purchased the article, and will start referencing and writing up the plot! :) ATC^{. Talk} 23:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

I goofed on the references and don't know how to fix it, their is duplicates in the reflist.
Can someone fix it?
Thanx!
ATC^{. Talk} 00:04, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Where to begin here? I'll start by saying that this unfortunately going to fail - it just hasn't had the amount of work put into it that it should have. it looks like it was a stub that had "plot", "Production" etc. tagged on it.

Loads of facts in the lead not mentioned later on, normal Wikipedia practice to do so. the lead reads like an independent section and not the introduction of the topic. Heck it's still rated as "Stub"
there are several sections missing that the project: Film Style guide reccomends - Major themes, Release -Theatrical, Release - Home media, Critical reception, Documentaries, Soundtrack
the plot section mentions non-movie facts such as Raun's age at the time the movie was released.
Production, too short and superficial
Cast: Just a list, no prose.

Now prose wise it's fine, sourcing wise it's fine but it needs a lot of work on overall article structure.

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

What you have is a good start to a "Good Article" but it's not there yet, read the GA criterias closely Wikipedia:Good article criteria. Also the nominator forgot to follow the general GA protocols MPJ-DK (talk) 05:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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First depiction of Judge Rotenberg "Educational" Center abuse[edit]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that the scenes taking place at that behavior modification institute was the first fictional representation of the abusive practices of the notorious Judge Rotenberg Educational Center. --~~~ -----User:DanTD (talk) 00:46, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]